'The Queen Is Dead' named as the Greatest Album of All Time by NME - nme.com

The Smiths' 'The Queen Is Dead' tops NME's list of 500 greatest albums of all time - www.nme.com

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A list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time is published in this week's magazine, which is available digitally or on newsstands from today (October 23).
The Smiths' 1986 LP came top of the list, above albums by The Beatles, David Bowie, Pulp, The Stone Roses and Pixies. You can read the full rundown in this week's issue.

Wonder if this news will appear on TTY?

Ta for link.

P.
 
One of the Anonymouses said this now moves The Smiths into the "classic rock" slot . However, if you turn on a radio station here in the States that plays classic rock you will never hear a Smiths tune . Never . It is only the college or alternative stations that play (once in a while) The Smiths or even Morrissey . Funny how they are missing such great music while Led Zepplin plays for the 10th time of the day .
 
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nice to write that but that ragmag. jumps on the Morrissey bandwagon, with his succesfull book and His DVD release

Meat is Murder will be always my nmbr 1


'and they say he's mentall'... some eNeMEy[ie]'s are bigger than others
 
One of the Anonymouses said this now moves The Smiths into the "classic rock" slot . However, if you turn on a radio station here in the States that plays classic rock you will never hear a Smiths tune . Never . It is only the college or alternative stations that play (once in a while) The Smiths or even Morrissey . Funny how they are missing such great music while Led Zepplin plays for the 10th time of the day .

You're lucky if it's Led Zeppelin. They still play Whitesnake. You're right about the classic rock format. These housepainters that were working outside for a month or so would play classic rock and it could have been the same mix tape that someone recorded in the 80's. It wears you down. If you are forced to listen to it for very long you can't help but reevaluate your taste, and suddenly Aerosmith (1975 version) starts to sound really good because you're comparing it to Kansas or something.

What I meant is that The Smiths are as far from what is new and fresh as The Beatles were in 1986. We're in a musical environment where Lil Wayne and Skrillex are superstars. I personally do not listen to any new bands that play guitar-bass-drums and I'm old. I'm sick of it myself. Led Zeppelin took the genre as far as it could go. If you want blues-based rock you don't have to go further than Hendrix, The Who, etc. Everything after that copied it or was a reaction to it. Actually, I was really excited when New Order released an album of outakes, and they are fairly standard instrumentally speaking. But that whole concept of a band based on the ideal bass-drums-singer-lead guitar, like the Rolling Stones or the Yardbirds has been done, and people think electronic music sounds the same, but try listening to an Allman Brothers live record sometime. People think Stevie Ray Vaughan is a genius and all he did was imitate Handrix.

My point is that the more acceptable a band is to NME or Rolling Stone magazine, the more irrelevant they are to contemporary culture. They have become part of the establishment. They do not shock.

Personally, I love the record and think it deserves whatever it gets for what it's worth, although I think New Order is better than The Smiths, more innovative, more versatile, and I love the lyrics and the vocals, but then some would take points off there. If I had to choose one band to hear for the rest of my life it would be New Order, not The Smiths.
 
nice to write that but that ragmag. jumps on the Morrissey bandwagon, with his succesfull book and His DVD release

Meat is Murder will be always my nmbr 1


'and they say he's mentall'... some eNeMEy[ie]'s are bigger than others

The NME was "The Bible" in the 70s and 80s, you bought it every Wednesday (or Tuesday if you worked in the City or West End) and you listened to John Peel every night (or got your little sister to press the record and play buttons together on your cassette/radio if you were out that evening), that was how you knew what was going on in the pre-internet days. It's writers might have been less than devoted Smiths fans, while the albums and singles appeared in the top ten in the end of year lists they were never No. 1, but the readers always voted them top and it was far superior to Sounds (metal and Oi) and Melody Maker (pop).

Morrissey put together a compilation CD for them in 2004 so obviously he'd forgiven them their trespasses of 1992 but then they'd soiled themselves again in 2007. I stopped buying around the mid-90s when they gave the front cover to Elton John, a clear sign that they'd lost the plot.
 
Why don't people realise that they have about 12 albums that are in circulation, each album takes it turns each year when there's one of these shitty polls. The Queen Is Dead only won as Moz is flavour of the month with his autobiography being the current best selling book.

Next year it'll be Sgt Peppers or Ok Computer, or Arctic Monkeys debut album.

It's all done to sell more copies.
 
Why don't people realise that they have about 12 albums that are in circulation, each album takes it turns each year when there's one of these shitty polls. The Queen Is Dead only won as Moz is flavour of the month with his autobiography being the current best selling book.

Next year it'll be Sgt Peppers or Ok Computer, or Arctic Monkeys debut album.

It's all done to sell more copies.

I think people do realise it. There is no such thing as the best album, as it is utterly subjective. It is true, however, that certain albums continue to crop up decades after their release: Blood On The Tracks, Ziggy, Exile On Main Street, several Beatles albums, of course, and as each decade passes a few more survive the test of time.

If we saw this poll ten years ago the Stone Roses and Oasis would be very high on the list, perhaps even numbers one and two, but fashion passes, and class remains. The Queen Is Dead is a remarkable album so thirty years on it is recognised to be a landmark of its era, and it'll likely stay that way.
 
I can still remember catching the bus into town to buy it, then the journey home looking it and reading the lyrics, jumped off the bus legged to my room and put it on the turntable !!!!!!!!!!! BOOM !!!!!! (Hiroshima style) LIFE CHANGED FOREVER. That's the power of music, haven't felt it since but I was there. So anyway thank you Morrissey, Johnny, Mike and Andy, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
"Oh its childish and its silly"


Benny-the-Butcher

There was a queue outside the store waiting for opening time. A few at the back were getting a bit nervous they'd miss out. As each person left the store the first thing they did was take it out of the bag and open the gatefold and stand there in awe. I love the internet, but I really miss those days. Until the day of release only Bigmouth and Vicar had been heard on the Whistle Test, and from memory that was several weeks before, or seemed it.

By the time Strangeways came out I had a decent relationship with the guy who owned the local independent and got a promo copy on the Friday before the Monday release. He gave me a quite flimsy, almost transparent bag, and you could clearly see what it was. On the way home I wandered into Our Price and was accosted quite quickly by the manager and other members of staff demanding to know where I had got it so early. They were quite aggressive, but a swift "mind your own business" saw them skulk off. Of course, I was as delighted that they'd seen it as they were annoyed.
 
I used to Devour NME and Sounds back in the 70's-80's, when they actually MATTERED...There was no other way of hearing about up and coming new bands/artists really....John Peel or Phil Ross ( radio merseyside) excepted. some of the writers at the time actually seemed to give a toss about the bands/artists they wrote about ( either good way, or bad..but at least they were passionate...I can even recall some of the writers names....Nowadays, I wouldn't even bother to take note, as they will proclaim who the next big band ad nauseum each and EVERY week, in the hope that the band mentioned will actually become "Big"). I stopped buying NME about 1993, when it suddenly seemed to be more about the journalists ego's, than about the music. I have bought the odd copy since, ( about 4 times), each time because of a Morrissey or Smiths related theme on the cover. I have NO intention of buying this issue ( even though, YES!!! a pic of Morrissey is on the cover....yawn...) because It is such an obvious jump on the Autobiography bandwagon...we wait with baited breath for Alex Turners book to be published, so that the NME ( IF it is still being printed by then) comes out and declares "Favourite worst nightmare" as the best album ever, etc etc.
 
Here's the top 10:

1. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead (1986)
2. The Beatles - Revolver (1966)
3. David Bowie - Hunky Dory (1971)
4. The Strokes - Is This It (2001)
5. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico (1966)
6. Pulp - Different Class (1995)
7. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses (1989)
8. Pixies - Doolittle (1989)
9. The Beatles - The Beatles (1968)
10. Oasis - Definitely Maybe (1994)

And the other Smiths/Moz-entries:
47. The Smiths - Strangeways, Here We Come (1987)
97. The Smiths - The Smiths (1984)
100. The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow (1984)
254. The Smiths - Meat is Murder (1985)
375. Morrissey - Vauxhall and I (1994)
 
You have been stuck on this same monorail of complaint for years on end.
I ask this in all seriousness, with no disrespect meant -- were you in some way turned down or insulted by Morrissey himself at some point in your life?
You care too much.



Well, at least we can be certain of one thing: God does not exist. He wouldn't bestow such talent upon such a horrible, deplorable human being.

Morrissey deserves to die alone. In poverty. Without friends.

Hahahaha, speaking of friends: even Even Alain Whyte ran for the hills after a few years with good old Mozzer. What a douche bag he is. Morrissey that is.

Viva Mike Joyce! Good for you sir. I wish you would have gotten it all!
 
1. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead (1986)
2. The Beatles - Revolver (1966)
3. David Bowie - Hunky Dory (1972)
4. The Strokes - Is This It (2001)
5. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico (1966)
6. Pulp - Different Class (1995)
7. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses (1989)
8. Pixies - Doolittle (1989)
9. The Beatles - The Beatles (1968)
10. Oasis - Definitely Maybe (1994)
11. Nirvana - Nevermind (1991)
12. Patti Smith - Horses (1975)
13. Arcade Fire - Funeral (2004)
14. David Bowie - Low (1977)
15. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake (2011)
16. Joy Division - Closer (1980)
17. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back (1988)
18. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless (1991)
19. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (2006)
20. Radiohead - OK Computer (1997)
21. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010)
22. Blur - Parklife (1994)
23. David Bowie - The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars (1972)
24. The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St. Street (1972)
25. Marvin Gaye - What's Going On (1971)
26. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds (1966)
27. Primal Scream - Screamadelica (1991)
28. Amy Winehouse - Back To Black (2006)
29. Television - Marquee Moon (1977)
30. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)
31. Suede - Dog Man Star (1994)
32. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique (1989)
33. Blur - Modern Life Is Rubbish (1993)
34. The Beatles - Abbey Road (1969)
35. Nirvana - In Utero (1993)
36. Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks (1975)
37. Love - Forever Changes (1967)
38. Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks... Here's The Sex Pistols (1977)
39. The Clash - London Calling (1979)
40. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasure (1979)
41. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (1988)
42. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions (1973)
43. The Beatles - Rubber Soul (1965)
44. Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible (1994)
45. Blondie - Parallel Lines (1978)
46. Björk - Debut (1993)
47. The Smiths - Strangeways, Here We Come (1987)
48. Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love (1985)
49. LCD Soundsystem - Sound Of Silver (2007)
50. Dusty Springfield - Dusty In Memphis (1969)

51. Fleetwood Mac - Rumours (1977)
52. The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed (1969)
53. David Bowie - Station To Station (1976)
54. Talking Heads - Remain In Light (1980)
55. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers (1971)
56. Neil Young - After The Gold Rush (1970)
57. Kraftwerk - The Man Machine (1978)
58. Pixies - Surfer Rosa (1988)
59. Radiohead - In Rainbows (2007)
60. Massive Attack - Blue Lines (1991)
61. The Clash - The Clash (1977)
62. Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde (1966)
63. Joni Mitchell - Blue (1971)
64. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited (1965)
65. REM - Automatic For The People (1992)
66. Radiohead - The Bends (1995)
67. Oasis - (What's The Story) Morning Glory (1995)
68. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks (1968)
69. REM - Murmur (1983)
70. The Libertines - Up The Bracket (2002)
71. Neil Young - Harvest (1972)
72. Lou Reed - Transformer (1972)
73. Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home (1965)
74. Nas - IIImatic (1994)
75. Green Day - Dookie (1994)
76. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
77. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells (2001)
78. Suede - Suede (1993)
79. Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue (1959)
80. Iggy And The Stooges - Raw Power (1973)
81. Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express (1977)
82. Carole King - Tapestry (1971)
83. The Band - The Band (1969)
84. Hole - Live Through This (1994)
85. Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run (1975)
86. Jeff Buckley - Grace (1994)
87. The Beatles - Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967)
88. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure (1973)
89. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill (1998)
90. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free (2004)
91. Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain (1984)
92. Super Furry Animals - Radiator (1997)
93. Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf (2002)
94. The Rolling Stone - Beggars Banquet (1968)
95. Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden (1988)
96. Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet (1990)
97. The Smiths - The Smiths (1984)
98. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (1998)
99. The Libertines - The Libertines (2004)
100. The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow (1984)

101. Kraftwerk - Computer World
102. The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
103. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
104. The Stooges - Funhouse
105. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
106. Led Zeppelin - IV
107. Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine
108. Weezer - Pinkerton
109. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town
110. Fairport Convention - Liege and Lief
111. The Human League - Dare
112. GZA - Liquid Swords
113. Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
114. Radiohead - Kid A
115. Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
116. The White Stripes - Elephant
117. ABC - The Lexicon of Love
118. Dexys Midnight Runners - Searching or the Young Soul Rebels
119. Pulp - His 'N' Hers
120. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
121. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
122. New Order - Technique
123. Blur - 13
124. Paul Simon - Graceland
125. James Brown - Live at the Apollo
126. Beastie Boys - Ill Communication
127. Ramones - Ramones
128. The Verve - Urban Hymns
129. Neil Young - On the Beach
130. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
131. Michael Jackson - Thriller
132. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
133. John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band - John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
134. PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea
135. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
136. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell
137. Blur - Blur
138. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
139. The Cure - Disintegration
140. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter
141. Bob Marley and the Wailers - Natty Dread
142. Serge Gainsbourg - Histoire De Melody Nelson
143. Bob Dylan - Desire
144. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced
145. The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle
146. At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command
147. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
148. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
149. Elliot Smith - Either/Or
150. The Streets - Original Pirate Material

151. PJ Harvey - Dry
152. Mercury Rev - Deserter's Songs
153. The La's - The La's
154. PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love
155. The Prodigy - Music For the Jilted Generation
156. Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We're Floating In Space
157. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy
158. Wild Beasts - Two Dancers
159. Gang of Four - Entertainment!
160. Primal Scream - XTRMTR
161. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
162. The National - The Boxer
163. Neu - Neu '75!
164. Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison
165. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Let Love In
166. Pulp - This is Hardcore
167. Aretha Franklin - Lady Soul
168. Portishead - Dummy
169. Dexys Midnight Runners - Don't Stand Me Down
170. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
171. Talking Heads - Fear of Music
172. Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
173. Led Zeppelin - III
174. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
175. David Bowie - Young Americans
176. Rufus Wainwright - Want One
177. Mogwai - Young Team
178. The Coral - The Coral
179. Missy Elliott - Miss E…So Addictive
180. X-Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents
181. Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
182. Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go
183. OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
184. MIA - Kala
185. Eric B and Rakim - Paid in Full
186. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
187. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
188. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
189. Todd Rungren - A Wizard, A True Star
190. Pink Floyd - Piper At the Gates of Dawn
191. Elastica - Elastica
192. Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
193. Ryan Adams - Gold
194. Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
195. The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night
196. The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus
197. AC/DC - Back in Black
198. Prince - Sign O' The Times
199. The Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
200. The Breeders - Last Splash

201. The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour
202. Tricky - Maxinquaye
203. Beach House - Teen Dream
204. Michael Jackson - Bad
205. NWA - Straight Outta Compton
206. Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted
207. Janis Joplin - Pearl
208. Chic - Risque
209. Kate Bush - The Kick Inside
210. The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
211. Grace Jones - Nightclubbing
212. Kings of Leon - Youth and Young Manhood
213. Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove
214. Air - Moon Safari
215. Massive Attack - Mezzanine
216. New Order - Power, Lies and Corrruption
217. Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
218. The Horrors - Primary Colours
219. The Jam - All Mod Cons
220. The National - Alligator
221. Marianne Faithful - Broken English
222. Fever Ray - Fever Ray
223. Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
224. Echo and the Bunnymen - Heaven Up Here
225. T Rex - Electric Warrior
226. The Doors - The Doors
227. John Lennon - Imagine
228. Pavement - Brighten the Corners
229. Public Image Ltd - Metal Box
230. David Bowie - Aladdin Sane
231. Dr. Dre - The Chronic
232. Leonard Cohen - The Songs of Leonard Cohen
233. Babyshambles - Down In Albion
234. Pet Shop Boys - Behaviour
235. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Murder Ballads
236. Suicide - Suicide
237. The xx - The xx
238. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Show Your Bones
239. Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner
240. Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!!
241. Madonna - Ray of Light
242. Michael Jackson - Off the Wall
243. Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns
244. Wild Beasts - Smother
245. Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic
246. Nirvana - MTV Unplugged In New York
247. Glasvegas - Glasvegas
248. Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
249. Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
250. Weezer - Weezer
 
251. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up
252. Grimes - Visions
253. Pussy Galore - Exile on Main St
254. The Smiths - Meat is Murder
255. Metronomy - The English Riviera
256. Elvis Costello and the Attractions - This Year's Model
257. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - The Boatman's Call
258. Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left
259. Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Stage
260. The Specials - The Specials
261. Bob Marley and the Wailers - Live!
262. Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
263. Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can
264. The Beatles - Please Please Me
265. Hole - Celebrity Skin
266. Coldplay - A Rush of Blood to the Head
267. Dr. Feelgood - Stupidity
268. Todd Rungren - Todd
269. The Horrors - Skying
270. The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society
271. The Velvet Underground - Loaded
272. Coldplay - Parachutes
273. Kanye West - The College Dropout
274. R.E.M. - Green
275. The Who - Quadrophenia
276. Echo and the Bunnymen - Ocean Rain
277. The Sunday - Reading, Writing and Arithmetic
278. The Slits - Cut
279. Captain Beefhart and his Magical Band - Trout Mask Replica
280. Aphex Twin - Drukqs
281. Elvis Costello - My Aim is True
282. Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix
283. Roxy Music - Roxy Music
284. Fugazi - 13 Songs
285. Marvin Gaye - Midnight Love
286. Screaming Trees - Dust
287. Slayer - Reign In Blood
288. Stevie Wonder - Music of My Mind
289. The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers
290. The Bluetones - Expecting to Fly
291. The Byrds - Younger than Yesterday
292. The Cribs - The New Fellas
293. Aztec Camera - High Land Hard Rain
294. Klaxons - Myths of the Near Future
295. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
296. David Bowie - Let's Dance
297. Can - Ege Bamyasi
298. Malcolm McLaren -
299. The Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers Lane
300. The Who - The Who By Numbers

301. Arthur Russell - World of Echo
302. Daft Punk - Homework
303. Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um
304. The Orb - UFOrb
305. Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells a Story
306. Bob Dyan - The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
307. Beck - Midnight Vultures
308. Lemonheads - It's a Shame About Ray
309. Metallica - Metallica
310. Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstacy
311. Super Furry Animals - Guerilla
312. Cocteau Twins - Treasure
313. Tom Waits - Frank's Wild Years
314. Slint - Spiderland
315. Big Brother and the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills
316. Elvis Costello and the Attractions - Imperial Bedroom
317. Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel
318. Ice-T - OG Original Gangster
319. The Who - Who's Next
320. Tom Waits - Swordfishtrombones
321. Doves - Lost Souls
322. LCD - This is Happening
323. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
324. R.E.M. - Life's Rich Pageant
325. Beck - Sea Change
326. Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One
327. Beck - Mutations
328. The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
329. David Bowie - "Heroes"
330. Portishead - Third
331. MC5 - Kick out the Jams
332. Shack - HMS Fable
333. Paul McCartney and Wings - Band on the Run
334. The Avalanches - Since I Left You
335. Queens of the Stoneage - …Like Clockwork
336. Neneh Cherry - Raw Like Sushi
337. Danger Mouse - The Grey Album
338. Notorious BIG - Ready to Die
339. Pearl Jam - Ten
340. Sister Sledge - We Are Family
341. Tom Waits - Closing Time
342. Spritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies
343. Bob Dylan - John Wesley Harding
344. Eels - Beautiful Freak
345. Elvis Costello - Punch the Clock
346. New Order - Low Life
347. Sonic Youth - Dirty
348. Whitney Houston - Whitney
349. Alt-J - An Awesome Wave
350. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - BRMC

351. The Byrds - Sweetheart of the Rodeo
352. The Velvet Underground - White Light/White Heat
353. Mclusky - Mclusky Do Dallas
354. Isaac Hayes - Hot Buttered Soul
355. New York Dolls - New York Dolls
356. Pixies - Bossanova
357. Sugar - Copper Blue
358. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
359. The Mothers of Invention - We're Only In it for the Money
360. The Strokes - Room on Fire
361. The Faces - A Nod is as Good as a Wink…the a Bliind Horse
362. Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty
363. Black Flag - Damaged
364. Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
365. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegatables
366. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Love and Hate
367. Metronomy - Nights Out
368. Radiohead - Hail to the Theif
369. St Vincent - Strange Mercy
370. The Cribs - Men's Needs, Women's Needs, Whatever
371. Beck - Odelay
372. Big Black - Atomizer
373. Curtis Mayfield - There's No Place Like America Today
374. Frank Sinatra - In the Wee Small Hours
375. Morrissey - Vauxhall and I
376. Sam Cooke - Live At The Harlem Square Club
377. Roy Harper - Stormcock
378. Wire - Pink Flag
379. Belle & Sebastian - The Boy With The Arab Strap
380. Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
381. David Bowie - Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
382. Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water
383. The Long Blondes - Someone To Drive You Home
384. Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley
385. The White Stripes - Get Behind Me Satan
386. Gillian Wellch - Revival
387. The Clash - Combat Rock
388. Tim Buckley - Happy Sad
389. Le Tigre - Le Tigre
390. The Verve - A Northern Soul
391. Burial - Burial
392. Edan - Beauty and the Beat
393. Prince - Dirty Mind
394. Wire - Chairs Missing
395. The White Stripes - De Stijl
396. Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F.
397. Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
398. Neil Young - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
399. Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - The Lyre of Orpheus/Abattoir Blues
400. The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace

401. 20 Jazz Funk Greats - Throbbing Gristle
402. Twenty One - Mystery Jets
403. Vespertine - Bjork
404. No Other - Gene Clark
405. Otis Blue - Otis Redding
406. Rated B - Queens of the Stone Age
407. Going Blank Again - Ride
408. Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain - Pavement
409. Tago Mago - Can
410. Antics - Interpol
411. Madvillainy - Madvillain
412. Entroducing... - DJ Shadow
413. Pills N Thrills and Bellyaches - Happy Mondays
414. Dig Your Own Hole - The Chemical Brothers
415. Chet Baker Sings - Chet Baker
416. Merriweather Post Pavillion - Animal Collective
417. 1977 - Ash
418. Electro-Shock Blues - Eels
419. Let It Come Down - Spiritualized
420. People's Instinctive Travels... - A Tribe Called Quest
421. Radio City - Big Star
422. Too-Rye-Ay - Dexys Midnight Runners
423. Live at Leeds - The Who
424. The Joshua Tree - U2
425. Nancy and Lee - Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazelwood
426. Goo - Sonic Youth
427. Here Comes the Warm Jets - Brian Eno
428. Born in the USA - Bruce Springsteen
429. Bleed America - Jimmy Eat World
430. Scott 4 - Scott Walker
431. Badmotorfinger - Soundgarden
432. Tindersticks - Tindersticks
433. 2001 - Dr. Dre
434. Steve McQueen - Prefab Sprout
435. Easter - Patti Smith
436. Mirrored - Battles
437. Dear Science - TV on the Radio
438. Aha Shake Heartbreak - Kings of Leon
439. The Futureheads - The Futureheads
440. Life's a Riot with Spy vs. Spy - Billy Bragg
441. Arrival - ABBA
442. Al Green is Love - Al Green
443. Sometimes I Wish We Were an Eagle - Bill Callahan
444. Violator - Depeche Mode
445. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac
446. The Warning - Hot Chip
447. Diamond Dogs - David Bowie
448. Sci-Fi Lullabies - Suede
449. AM - Arctic Monkeys
450. Rid of Me - PJ Harvey

451. Third/Sister Lovers- Big Star
452. The B-52's- The B-52's
453. The House of Love- The House of Love
454. The Writing on the Wall- Destiny's Child
455. Vampire Weekend- Vampire Weekend
456. September of My Years- Frank Sinatra
457. Black Cherry- Goldfrapp
458. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot- Wilco
459. The Black Album- Jay-Z
460. Bleach- Nirvana
461. Generation Terrorists- Manic Street Preachers
462. Master of Puppets- Metallica
463. Pod- The Breeders
464. Because of the Times- Kings of Leon
465. High Violet- The National
466. The W- Wu-Tang Clan
467. The Idiot- Iggy Pop
468. Chutes Too Narrow- The Shins
469. Holland- The Beach Boys
470. Graduation- Kanye West
471. Oracular Spectacular- MGMT
472. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness- Smashing Pumpkins
473. A Storm in Heaven- The Verve
474. Tarot Sport- f**k Buttons
475. Smoke Ring for My Halo- Kurt Vile
476. Foo Fighters- Foo Fighters
477. Crystal Castles- Crystal Castles
478. Trouble Will Find Me- The National
479. The Real Ramona- Throwing Muses
480. I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You- Aretha Franklin
481. Smile- Brian Wilson
482. Lady in Satin- Billie Holiday
483. Blood and Chocolate- Elvis Costello & The Attractions
484. The River- Bruce Springsteen
485. Good Kid, M.A.A.D City- Kendrick Lamar
486. Homogenic- Bjork
487. Sound Affects- The Jam
488. I'm Your Man- Leonard Cohen
489. George Best- The Wedding Present
490. Back in the USA- MC5
491. Actually- Pet Shop Boys
492. Hidden- These New Puritans
493. Blood- This Mortal Coil
494. The Head on the Door- The Cure
495. Hot Fuss- The Killers
496. Album- Girls
497. Random Access Memories- Daft Punk
498. Berlin- Lou Reed
499. Star- Belly
500. Stankonia- OutKast
 
Only three albums associated with Geoff Travis in the top ten. What a clueless imbecile and destroyer of careers he must be.
 
1. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead (1986)
2. The Beatles - Revolver (1966)
3. David Bowie - Hunky Dory (1972)
4. The Strokes - Is This It (2001)
5. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico (1966)
6. Pulp - Different Class (1995)
7. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses (1989)
8. Pixies - Doolittle (1989)
9. The Beatles - The Beatles (1968)
10. Oasis - Definitely Maybe (1994)
11. Nirvana - Nevermind (1991)
12. Patti Smith - Horses (1975)
13. Arcade Fire - Funeral (2004)
14. David Bowie - Low (1977)
15. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake (2011)
16. Joy Division - Closer (1980)
17. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back (1988)
18. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless (1991)
19. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (2006)
20. Radiohead - OK Computer (1997)
21. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010)
22. Blur - Parklife (1994)
23. David Bowie - The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars (1972)
24. The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St. Street (1972)
25. Marvin Gaye - What's Going On (1971)
26. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds (1966)
27. Primal Scream - Screamadelica (1991)
28. Amy Winehouse - Back To Black (2006)
29. Television - Marquee Moon (1977)
30. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)
31. Suede - Dog Man Star (1994)
32. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique (1989)
33. Blur - Modern Life Is Rubbish (1993)
34. The Beatles - Abbey Road (1969)
35. Nirvana - In Utero (1993)
36. Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks (1975)
37. Love - Forever Changes (1967)
38. Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks... Here's The Sex Pistols (1977)
39. The Clash - London Calling (1979)
40. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasure (1979)
41. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (1988)
42. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions (1973)
43. The Beatles - Rubber Soul (1965)
44. Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible (1994)
45. Blondie - Parallel Lines (1978)
46. Björk - Debut (1993)
47. The Smiths - Strangeways, Here We Come (1987)
48. Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love (1985)
49. LCD Soundsystem - Sound Of Silver (2007)
50. Dusty Springfield - Dusty In Memphis (1969)

51. Fleetwood Mac - Rumours (1977)
52. The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed (1969)
53. David Bowie - Station To Station (1976)
54. Talking Heads - Remain In Light (1980)
55. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers (1971)
56. Neil Young - After The Gold Rush (1970)
57. Kraftwerk - The Man Machine (1978)
58. Pixies - Surfer Rosa (1988)
59. Radiohead - In Rainbows (2007)
60. Massive Attack - Blue Lines (1991)
61. The Clash - The Clash (1977)
62. Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde (1966)
63. Joni Mitchell - Blue (1971)
64. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited (1965)
65. REM - Automatic For The People (1992)
66. Radiohead - The Bends (1995)
67. Oasis - (What's The Story) Morning Glory (1995)
68. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks (1968)
69. REM - Murmur (1983)
70. The Libertines - Up The Bracket (2002)
71. Neil Young - Harvest (1972)
72. Lou Reed - Transformer (1972)
73. Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home (1965)
74. Nas - IIImatic (1994)
75. Green Day - Dookie (1994)
76. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
77. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells (2001)
78. Suede - Suede (1993)
79. Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue (1959)
80. Iggy And The Stooges - Raw Power (1973)
81. Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express (1977)
82. Carole King - Tapestry (1971)
83. The Band - The Band (1969)
84. Hole - Live Through This (1994)
85. Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run (1975)
86. Jeff Buckley - Grace (1994)
87. The Beatles - Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967)
88. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure (1973)
89. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill (1998)
90. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free (2004)
91. Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain (1984)
92. Super Furry Animals - Radiator (1997)
93. Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf (2002)
94. The Rolling Stone - Beggars Banquet (1968)
95. Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden (1988)
96. Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet (1990)
97. The Smiths - The Smiths (1984)
98. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (1998)
99. The Libertines - The Libertines (2004)
100. The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow (1984)

101. Kraftwerk - Computer World
102. The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
103. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
104. The Stooges - Funhouse
105. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
106. Led Zeppelin - IV
107. Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine
108. Weezer - Pinkerton
109. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town
110. Fairport Convention - Liege and Lief
111. The Human League - Dare
112. GZA - Liquid Swords
113. Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
114. Radiohead - Kid A
115. Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
116. The White Stripes - Elephant
117. ABC - The Lexicon of Love
118. Dexys Midnight Runners - Searching or the Young Soul Rebels
119. Pulp - His 'N' Hers
120. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
121. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
122. New Order - Technique
123. Blur - 13
124. Paul Simon - Graceland
125. James Brown - Live at the Apollo
126. Beastie Boys - Ill Communication
127. Ramones - Ramones
128. The Verve - Urban Hymns
129. Neil Young - On the Beach
130. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
131. Michael Jackson - Thriller
132. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
133. John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band - John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
134. PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea
135. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
136. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell
137. Blur - Blur
138. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
139. The Cure - Disintegration
140. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter
141. Bob Marley and the Wailers - Natty Dread
142. Serge Gainsbourg - Histoire De Melody Nelson
143. Bob Dylan - Desire
144. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced
145. The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle
146. At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command
147. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
148. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
149. Elliot Smith - Either/Or
150. The Streets - Original Pirate Material

151. PJ Harvey - Dry
152. Mercury Rev - Deserter's Songs
153. The La's - The La's
154. PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love
155. The Prodigy - Music For the Jilted Generation
156. Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We're Floating In Space
157. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy
158. Wild Beasts - Two Dancers
159. Gang of Four - Entertainment!
160. Primal Scream - XTRMTR
161. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
162. The National - The Boxer
163. Neu - Neu '75!
164. Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison
165. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Let Love In
166. Pulp - This is Hardcore
167. Aretha Franklin - Lady Soul
168. Portishead - Dummy
169. Dexys Midnight Runners - Don't Stand Me Down
170. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
171. Talking Heads - Fear of Music
172. Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
173. Led Zeppelin - III
174. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
175. David Bowie - Young Americans
176. Rufus Wainwright - Want One
177. Mogwai - Young Team
178. The Coral - The Coral
179. Missy Elliott - Miss E…So Addictive
180. X-Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents
181. Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
182. Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go
183. OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
184. MIA - Kala
185. Eric B and Rakim - Paid in Full
186. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
187. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
188. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
189. Todd Rungren - A Wizard, A True Star
190. Pink Floyd - Piper At the Gates of Dawn
191. Elastica - Elastica
192. Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
193. Ryan Adams - Gold
194. Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
195. The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night
196. The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus
197. AC/DC - Back in Black
198. Prince - Sign O' The Times
199. The Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
200. The Breeders - Last Splash

201. The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour
202. Tricky - Maxinquaye
203. Beach House - Teen Dream
204. Michael Jackson - Bad
205. NWA - Straight Outta Compton
206. Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted
207. Janis Joplin - Pearl
208. Chic - Risque
209. Kate Bush - The Kick Inside
210. The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
211. Grace Jones - Nightclubbing
212. Kings of Leon - Youth and Young Manhood
213. Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove
214. Air - Moon Safari
215. Massive Attack - Mezzanine
216. New Order - Power, Lies and Corrruption
217. Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
218. The Horrors - Primary Colours
219. The Jam - All Mod Cons
220. The National - Alligator
221. Marianne Faithful - Broken English
222. Fever Ray - Fever Ray
223. Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
224. Echo and the Bunnymen - Heaven Up Here
225. T Rex - Electric Warrior
226. The Doors - The Doors
227. John Lennon - Imagine
228. Pavement - Brighten the Corners
229. Public Image Ltd - Metal Box
230. David Bowie - Aladdin Sane
231. Dr. Dre - The Chronic
232. Leonard Cohen - The Songs of Leonard Cohen
233. Babyshambles - Down In Albion
234. Pet Shop Boys - Behaviour
235. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Murder Ballads
236. Suicide - Suicide
237. The xx - The xx
238. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Show Your Bones
239. Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner
240. Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!!
241. Madonna - Ray of Light
242. Michael Jackson - Off the Wall
243. Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns
244. Wild Beasts - Smother
245. Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic
246. Nirvana - MTV Unplugged In New York
247. Glasvegas - Glasvegas
248. Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
249. Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
250. Weezer - Weezer

The Bends at 66. No justice.

P.
 
Dark Side Of The Moon at #132? I know you have to be in the right mood for it, but blimey. :crazy:

Neutral Milk Hotel at #98 is a gem. That should be far higher. So should Nick Cave's The Boatman's Call at #257.
 
Isn't all just subjective?

There's no such thing as "the greatest album of all time".

No, when the Smiths/Morrissey win, then it's objective. lol

But seriously, from NME's standpoint, this choice is all business. You have to believe that when they take a bold step like this, they're aiming to sell magazines. If #1 is the White Album, nobody will give a shit. Put the Smiths above the Beatles, and you will ruffle a few feathers.
 
You're lucky if it's Led Zeppelin. They still play Whitesnake. You're right about the classic rock format. These housepainters that were working outside for a month or so would play classic rock and it could have been the same mix tape that someone recorded in the 80's. It wears you down. If you are forced to listen to it for very long you can't help but reevaluate your taste, and suddenly Aerosmith (1975 version) starts to sound really good because you're comparing it to Kansas or something.

What I meant is that The Smiths are as far from what is new and fresh as The Beatles were in 1986. We're in a musical environment where Lil Wayne and Skrillex are superstars. I personally do not listen to any new bands that play guitar-bass-drums and I'm old. I'm sick of it myself. Led Zeppelin took the genre as far as it could go. If you want blues-based rock you don't have to go further than Hendrix, The Who, etc. Everything after that copied it or was a reaction to it. Actually, I was really excited when New Order released an album of outakes, and they are fairly standard instrumentally speaking. But that whole concept of a band based on the ideal bass-drums-singer-lead guitar, like the Rolling Stones or the Yardbirds has been done, and people think electronic music sounds the same, but try listening to an Allman Brothers live record sometime. People think Stevie Ray Vaughan is a genius and all he did was imitate Handrix.

My point is that the more acceptable a band is to NME or Rolling Stone magazine, the more irrelevant they are to contemporary culture. They have become part of the establishment. They do not shock.

Personally, I love the record and think it deserves whatever it gets for what it's worth, although I think New Order is better than The Smiths, more innovative, more versatile, and I love the lyrics and the vocals, but then some would take points off there. If I had to choose one band to hear for the rest of my life it would be New Order, not The Smiths.

What is your favorite New Order album? I love them too, btw.
 
4. The Strokes - Is This It
6. Pulp - Different Class
7. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses

All well-overachieving in that top ten for me. And PJ Harvey's Let England Shake at 15 - a decent album, but not the 15th best ever made, or even close. Dylan's highest entry is at 36! These lists repulse and fascinate me in equal measure.
 

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