"The Queen Is Dead" Box Set promo items (slipmat, tote) & Joyce competition

Mike Joyce is running a competition to win a slipmat or bag:



The items have made it in to record shops too (availability unknown):

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A general discussion point, but could well go in collector's corner too - looks like there's a quantity of items to collect alongside the box set.
Several IG posts would imply the items will be given away with the set - let's hope so.
Regards,
FWD.

(source: Joyce & various Instagrams).
 
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must be sad to be Joyce, riding on the coattails of the dead Smiths.

At least M escaped all that and is the only one among them holding the torch for and creating great music that still moves people in the way the Smiths do.

though Mikes drum loop on the song QID is great, unfortunately he could never pull it off as well live, not to say it's bad, just not as strong.

BULLSHIT. You just hate on Mike Joyce because you think Morrissey will marry you. Ain't gonna happen!
 
If only Joyce had been bludgeoned by the wimpy bedroom shadow boxer in the Playboys video. His pathetic path as a token session musician and devious, truculent, and unreliable Northern leech would have been avoided. Lawyer...liar....lawyer...liar...
I despise this guy. He is stuck in time and contributes nothing but worthless appearances for people who are stuck in 1987. Spencer and Matt Walker can drum circles around him. He should be locked in a room with Gustavo Manzur during which time he is forced to listen Gustavo butcher The Smiths’ masterpieces in Spanish

Your knowledge of drumming is equal to a rat's understanding of the Theory of Relativity. No offence but kindly shut the f*** up and see a specialist about getting your head removed from your ass.
 
I honestly would love one of these slip mats though. Utilising the inner sticker of a record as design for a slip mat is genius. Add to it that it's a Smiths record and well... If it came with the vinyl box set, which it should have I would've bought it for that alone even though I have the Marr remasters.
 
Charlie Watts is the best ❤️

But, anyway...Mike has his place and deserves to be known for it and respected. I just wish things could have been different.

Money ruins everything.
 
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Money indeed.

Wasn't Mike in the middle of suing a band he was in when he was joining the Smiths? Should have been a sign to M&Marr.
 
Anybody know how limited the vinyl set is? I would really like to own it but wondering if it can be pushed off til Christmas.
 
Your knowledge of drumming is equal to a rat's understanding of the Theory of Relativity. No offence but kindly shut the f*** up and see a specialist about getting your head removed from your ass.
You f***ing coward- put a username and a location on here. We’ll hash out the details... in the interim, hide behind your computer screen- you are a disgusting scab on humanity’s ass
 
He knows it's over, still he clings...
It has to be a shitty feeling to know that in the increasingly unlikely event of a Smiths reunion, he would be persona non grata, and replaced with anyone who could play. What an odd feeling it must be.
I think that Mike Joyce is dishonest and he seems to be into accumulating a lot of money for himself and his family.

I very much dislike Andy Rourke and some of the people who are around him.

I don't personally think there will ever be a Smiths reunion at least not with Mike Joyce and Andy Rourke still in the group there is way too much bad blood.

I'm not sure that Craig Gannon would be asked to be back in the group either but who really knows though.
 
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I don't personally have any problems with Mike Joyce. I think Mike Joyce is a nice, friendly guy but he might not be totally honest that is all.

It is Andy Rourke who I very much dislike and some of the people who are around him.
I don't personally have problems with any of them. I wasn't in the band. People who do, kind of weird me out.
I've just been thinking with all of the cheerleading that Mike does, it's got to be an odd lonely feeling seeing Johnny & Morrissey doing their thing, and being the "me too" guy when they wouldn't call him to help move a sofa, let alone a drum kit. I like your username, by the way. Great band.
 
I don't personally have any problems with Mike Joyce. I think Mike Joyce is a nice, friendly guy but he might not be totally honest that is all.

It is Andy Rourke who I very much dislike and some of the people who are around him.

I don't personally think there will ever be a Smiths reunion at least not with Mike Joyce and Andy Rourke still in the group there is way too much bad blood.

Possibly Craig Gannon might be asked to be back in the group but who really knows though.

No danger Gannon goes back. The guy was treated like shit by the sounds of it as soon as Rourke came back. As for Joyce not being totally honest, same goes for Morrissey and Marr.
 
I don't personally have problems with any of them. I wasn't in the band. People who do, kind of weird me out.
I've just been thinking with all of the cheerleading that Mike does, it's got to be an odd lonely feeling seeing Johnny & Morrissey doing their thing, and being the "me too" guy when they wouldn't call him to help move a sofa, let alone a drum kit. I like your username, by the way. Great band.

Well, he never tried to be anything other than the Smiths drummer. Preferring to leach off of Morrissey and Marr's continued success and by selling Smiths rarities on Ebay, etc. He could have been happy to settle, like Andy, but no...

And then when he didn't get his grubby hands on that last payment (shame on you, Morrissey! Lol) , he decided he should get even MORE money by collecting from Morrissey's income and assets in the UK...

Truth be known he's worth about 10%. Without Morrissey and Marr, he's nothing.
 
Well, he never tried to be anything other than the Smiths drummer. Preferring to leach off of Morrissey and Marr's continued success and by selling Smiths rarities on Ebay, etc. He could have been happy to settle, like Andy, but no...

And then when he didn't get his grubby hands on that last payment (shame on you, Morrissey! Lol) , he decided he should get even MORE money by collecting from Morrissey's income and assets in the UK...

Truth be known he's worth about 10%. Without Morrissey and Marr, he's nothing.

Tell it to the Judge. Are you a state-appointed judge?
 
Well, he never tried to be anything other than the Smiths drummer. Preferring to leach off of Morrissey and Marr's continued success and by selling Smiths rarities on Ebay, etc. He could have been happy to settle, like Andy, but no...

And then when he didn't get his grubby hands on that last payment (shame on you, Morrissey! Lol) , he decided he should get even MORE money by collecting from Morrissey's income and assets in the UK...

Truth be known he's worth about 10%. Without Morrissey and Marr, he's nothing.

Look he contributed just as much as the other band members, should’ve been a 25% split four ways. Greedy moz treating his fellow band members like shit. Good on Joyce for taking him to court.
 
Look he contributed just as much as the other band members, should’ve been a 25% split four ways. Greedy moz treating his fellow band members like shit. Good on Joyce for taking him to court.

He did take Moz AND Marr to court and as recently as last year Marr said again that the court action by Mike was wrong and that he is persona non grata for him. But still people moan about greedy Moz.
 
Well, he never tried to be anything other than the Smiths drummer. Preferring to leach off of Morrissey and Marr's continued success and by selling Smiths rarities on Ebay, etc. He could have been happy to settle, like Andy, but no...

And then when he didn't get his grubby hands on that last payment (shame on you, Morrissey! Lol) , he decided he should get even MORE money by collecting from Morrissey's income and assets in the UK...

Truth be known he's worth about 10%. Without Morrissey and Marr, he's nothing.
I don't personally have problems with any of them. I wasn't in the band. People who do, kind of weird me out.
 
Well, he never tried to be anything other than the Smiths drummer. Preferring to leach off of Morrissey and Marr's continued success and by selling Smiths rarities on Ebay, etc. He could have been happy to settle, like Andy, but no...

And then when he didn't get his grubby hands on that last payment (shame on you, Morrissey! Lol) , he decided he should get even MORE money by collecting from Morrissey's income and assets in the UK...

Truth be known he's worth about 10%. Without Morrissey and Marr, he's nothing.
Andy Rourke would of definitely fought on but he had money troubles at the time of the court case. Mike Joyce was actually much more sensible with his money. Mike Joyce was just much better at managing his money that is all. Mike Joyce didn't fritter his money away, in the way that Andy Rourke did! That was why Mike Joyce was able to fight on but Andy Rourke couldn't. The truth is that Andy Rourke would love to be in the same position financially as Mike Joyce is today! Andy Rourke has always wanted to be rich and famous he is NOT a morally better person than Mike Joyce. But I don't think either Mike Joyce or Andy Rourke are totally honest, trustworthy people at all. Andy Rourke settled out of court for £83, 000 and then was made bankrupt by the courts around 1999. I'm guessing Andy Rourke must of been in a lot of debt.

People are mistaken if they think Andy Rourke doesn't care about money. Andy Rourke does very much care about money! I'm guessing that Andy Rourke got into playing music and being in bands because of the money, the fame and the women. This is taken from an Andy Rourke interview see below:

But young people come in with the Smiths T-shirts on. Does that shock you?

Andy Rourke: "It does because I never get cut in on the merchandise. For every T-shirt I see, I think, shit, I should get 25 percent of that. I’m going to walk around with scissors. Cut 25 percent of your T-shirt."

As early as March 1989, Mike Joyce AND Andy Rourke started legal proceedings against Morrissey and Johnny Marr over performance and recording royalties!

Is there any point in buying The Smiths music or their merchandise anymore if it is true that all the money goes to Mike Joyce?

Does some of the money go to Morrissey and Johnny Marr?


 
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