"The Queen Is Dead" (2017 re-issue) released (Oct. 20, 2017)

Discussion in 'General Discussion archive 2017 (read-only)' started by davidt, Oct 20, 2017.

By davidt on Oct 20, 2017 at 3:45 PM
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Discussion in 'General Discussion archive 2017 (read-only)' started by davidt, Oct 20, 2017.

    1. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      i dug out all my bootlegs on tape and I have a copy of the California gig from the same tour. Listening to it I prefer the rawness of the bootleg with more of a feeling of the crowd and the hysteria. On this Boston cleaned up version the crowd are faded out and you can tell it’s come too direct from the sound desk. Also, yes I agree regarding the seminal colours of deep green and pink. I guess black and White is cheaper. It’s all so un Smiths like. Thought Morrissey was a perfectionist. However, judging by the artwork of the new stuff, I’m now not sure. Perhaps SER has been made Creative Director. Pilgrimupnorth
    2. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Have to agree but Marr must share the blame as well I'd have thought. It's childish and it's silly but very typical. Probably something to do with money.

      Benny-the-British-Butcher :greatbritain::knife:
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    3. Cornflakes
      Cornflakes
      Johnny doesn't appear to have been involved in the packaging. I'd speculate that his non-involvement was necessary in order for it to happen. Evidence: his lack of doing anything to promote it or the preceding vinyl releases, except one cryptic twitter post, his lack of involvement in the mastering, Morrissey's on-record annoyance that Johnny collaborated with Warners on Complete, in spite of lawyer's letters.
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    4. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Interesting.
      Thanks

      BtBB :greatbritain::knife:
    5. Anonymous
      Anonymous
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    6. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      No, its not a design choice. It’s just very poor implementation. L’Insoumis just went through a complete restoration so high res scans are available. They just didn’t bother to try to put together a quality package.
    7. Famous when dead
      Famous when dead
      Agree.
      I think with all the effort JM put in to the remastering - it must have been like a kick to the gonads to have it remastered yet again.
      Marr said at the time (2011):
      “I’m very happy that the remastered versions of The Smiths albums are finally coming out. I wanted to get them sounding right and remove any processing so that they now sound as they did when they were originally made. I’m pleased with the results.”
      I'd feel more than snubbed in that situation.
      His efforts gave us this:
      SmithsCompletePR270711.jpg
      Which wasn't exactly a poor effort!
      He was probably fed up with even more repackaging.
      Regards,
      FWD.
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    8. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      If you listen to Johnny’s version what you do hear is a constant effort to bury Morrissey in a sea of compressed mid range it brings out the guitars at the expense of his voice . Just listened to an original version and it’s very obvious . I’m sure the compromise no doubt was to let Morrissey have his go this time . Certainly the packaging has his stamp all over it. Regardless there’s certainly no way this set saw the light of day without Marrs full, even if grudging , approval. And when faced with the compromise of a muffled Audience recording versus a chrisp desk recording .With a decent if not perfect balance , I’ll take the desk recording anytime.
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    9. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      THE PENNY HAS JUST DROPPED ! :lightbulb::eek:

      Something has always not felt as it should about all this.
      Cornflakes response to my post and other posts on here got me thinking.

      Radio silence from Johnny, Mike, Andy and Craig

      The lightbulb moment ! ! ! !

      The dildo nephew revealing the sleeve art ! When I saw that my first reaction was why the 4ck would Johnny Marr allow that ?
      The line above says a lot "anyone buying this deserves a well thought out product"
      The merch reminds me of List of the Lost tacky shite merch.

      This product is very highly at risk as being the work of the grubby money grabbing family Maurice.

      If that is the case ! It's NOT animal friendly (just like Glastonbury) and may have to get the #Boycott treatment .




      Benny-the-British-Butcher :greatbritain::knife:
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    10. Dingoatemybabby
      Dingoatemybabby
      The fact that Craig Gannon is not mentioned on the spectacular live CD is shameful! The second guitar is what makes the live CD so great - it gives Johnny room to really soar. Morrissey can sure hold a grudge.
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    11. gustavo
      gustavo
      I have the 2CD edition, not the 3 CD deluxe edition. I am curious about the additional covers. The cover for Live in Boston with Kerouac listening to the radio has appeared, but I haven't seen a clear copy of the final product. I also haven't seen the final image for Additional Recordings. Does anybody mind sharing those images? Thank you!
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    12. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Like :thumbsup:
      BtBB :greatbritain::knife:
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    13. Kewpie
      Kewpie
      FYI: many thanks to joe frady
      https://www.morrissey-solo.com/thre...for-tqid-boxset.140930/page-4#post-1987032196
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    14. gustavo
      gustavo
    15. markreed
      markreed
      Overall, underwhelmed. Especially as Boston is six songs short with 25 spare minutes on the disc. Let alone any mention of Gannon on the sleeve.
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    16. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Years of refusal was really the only album I have never cared for. I would be delighted if it’s as good as ring leader of tormentors.
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    18. FROSTY
      FROSTY
      I just recieved my CD box set of the rerelease and it made me wonder if I still had my tattered poster from another release... I was suprised it survived... 20171023_142149.jpg
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    19. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Crikey! I'd blow a donkey for one of those posters!
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    20. FROSTY
      FROSTY
      It's a bit spotty and weathered.. no CDs then yet!
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