The Moz/Smiths Top 100, Part 93: IRISH BLOOD, ENGLISH HEART

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How do you rate Irish Blood, English Heart?

  1. 10

    43.6%
  2. 9

    29.1%
  3. 8

    16.9%
  4. 7

    7.6%
  5. 6

    1.2%
  6. 5

    1.7%
  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 3

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. 2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Houdini

    Houdini Junior Member

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    While we wait for the new album to arrive, let us go about rating the songs we know, on a daily basis, and compile our own Morrissey/Smiths Top 100.
    And instead of chronologically, let's do them alphabetically.

    Song for Today: IRISH BLOOD, ENGLISH HEART

    Voting should be something along these lines:
    10: Perfection
    9: Near perfect, brilliant
    8: Really good Moz/Smiths song
    7: Good Moz/Smiths song
    6: Decent, OK, Nothing special
    5: Uninspired
    4: Poor
    3: Bad
    2: Should never have been released
    1: He/They should be ashamed

    The songs we've done so far (voting is still open, click to vote):

    Part 1: A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours
    Part 2: A Song From Under The Floorboards
    Part 3: A Swallow On My Neck
    Part 4: Accept Yourself
    Part 5: All The Lazy Dykes
    Part 6: Alma Matters
    Part 7: Alsatian Cousin
    Part 8: Ambitious Outsiders
    Part 9: America Is Not The World
    Part 10: Ammunition
    Part 11: Angel, Angel, Down We Go Together
    Part 12: Asian Rut
    Part 13: Ask
    Part 14: Asleep
    Part 15: At Amber
    Part 16: At Last I Am Born
    Part 17: Back To The Old House
    Part 18: Barbarism Begins At Home
    Part 19: Bengali In Platforms
    Part 20: Best Friend On The Payroll
    Part 21: Bigmouth Strikes Again
    Part 22: Billy Budd
    Part 23: Black-Eyed Susan
    Part 24: Boxers
    Part 25: Break Up The Family
    Part 26: Cemetry Gates
    Part 27: Certain People I Know
    Part 28: Christian Dior
    Part 29: Come Back To Camden
    Part 30: Cosmic Dancer
    Part 31: Dagenham Dave
    Part 32: Dear God Please Help Me
    Part 33: Death At One's Elbow
    Part 34: Death Of A Disco Dancer
    Part 35: Dial-A-Cliche
    Part 36: Disappointed
    Part 37: Do Your Best And Don't Worry
    Part 38: Don't Make Fun Of Daddy's Voice
    Part 39: Driving Your Girlfriend Home
    Part 40: East West
    Part 41: Everyday Is Like Sunday
    Part 42: First Of The Gang To Die
    Part 43: Found Found Found
    Part 44: Frankly Mr Shankly
    Part 45: Friday Mourning
    Part 46: Ganglord
    Part 47: Get Off The Stage
    Part 48: Girl Afraid
    Part 49: Girl Least Likely To
    Part 50: Girlfriend In A Coma
    Part 51: Glamorous Glue
    Part 52: Golden Lights
    Part 53: Good Looking Man About Town
    Part 54: Hairdresser On Fire
    Part 55: Half A Person
    Part 56: Hand In Glove
    Part 57: Handsome Devil
    Part 58: Have-A-Go Merchant
    Part 59: He Cried
    Part 60: He Knows I'd Love To See Him
    Part 61: Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
    Part 62: Heir Apparent
    Part 63: Hold On To Your Friends
    Part 64: How Can Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel?
    Part 65: How Soon Is Now?
    Part 66: Human Being
    Part 67: I Am Hated For Loving
    Part 68: I Am Two People
    Part 69: I Can Have Both
    Part 70: I Don't Mind If You Forget Me
    Part 71: I Don't Owe You Anything
    Part 72: I Have Forgiven Jesus
    Part 73: I Just Want To See The Boy Happy
    Part 74: I Keep Mine Hidden
    Part 75: I Knew I Was Next
    Part 76: I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday
    Part 77: I Know It's Over
    Part 78: I Know Very Well How I Got My Name
    Part 79: I Like You
    Part 80: I Started Something I Couldn't Finish
    Part 81: I Want The One I Can't Have
    Part 82: I Will See You In Far Off Places
    Part 83: I Won't Share You
    Part 84: I'd Love To
    Part 85: I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now
    Part 86: I'm Not Sorry
    Part 87: (I'm) The End Of The Family Line
    Part 88: I've Changed My Plea To Guilty
    Part 89: If You Don't Like Me, Don't Look At Me
    Part 90: In The Future When All's Well
    Part 91: Interesting Drug
    Part 92: Interlude
     
  2. Comtesse

    Comtesse Starved Of Mirth

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    This song holds a special place in my heart because I was present in Berkeley, CA when he played it for the very first time. It's an excellent song with powerful lyrics... but it has always felt incomplete to me. I think it needs another verse to complete it. Still, it's one of the best moments on You Are The Quarry. I give it an 8.
     
  3. Assassin

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    Perfect single for me.

    10
     
  4. westendgirl

    westendgirl Active Member

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    First Morrissey song I had EVER heard, and still love it to this day! Amazing power...Perfect 10......!!!!
     
  5. Radio Berlin

    Radio Berlin moz is ♥

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    I gave it 9. I like the other yatq-singles slightly better.
    but live, it's a 10.
     
  6. Roma De Moz

    Roma De Moz Fat Children Took My Life

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    Like some of his other best work i.e Alsation Cousin, this song wins hands down due to it's density and emotional reticence. At under three-minutes, and only two verses, Morrissey manages to A) Dispell the racist accusations for good with real vigour B) Cram patriotism, pride, tolerance and politics into a neat little package and C) Redeem his rock credentials with a powerhouse musical accompaniment.

    Aswell as all that, it's just a great great song. A 9.
     
  7. Your Arsenal

    Your Arsenal yes I am blind

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    A change of style for Morrissey, which is great.
    Love the riffs, love the intensity of the song. Good lyrics, but still, I can only give it an 8. Dunno. Just not a personal favorite, but I can really appreciate the meaning of this song in his career.
     
  8. the judge

    the judge New Member

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    A nice song, nothing more. 7
     
  9. oye terence

    oye terence ampersand after ampersand

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    its very good song
    a very good single

    *8*
     
  10. DAnn Coulter

    DAnn Coulter Banned

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    Whatever!!! :rolleyes:

    I gave it a **10**
     
  11. David

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    This is one of the best songs Morrissey has ever written.

    It is a classic. 10.
     
  12. celibate

    celibate Forever Ill

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    an 8

    i liked it more live in the gong tour [2002], than on Quarry, and live since
    with keyboards
    but it's definately in the list of my fav 8 songs on Quarry
    [there are
    2 or 3 songs I rate lower than 7/8...]
     
  13. herzeleid

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    8.

    I much preferred it on the '02 tour. Finn's quirky production diluted some of the power (particularly the keyboard hocus on the instrumental outro).

    I also feel that the lyric lets down a superb song and evocative song title. As has long been observed the Cromwell reference makes no historical sense, and the reference to the English being sick of Labour etc is extremely clumsy. What about the Welsh and Scots? Or does England equate to Britain in Moz's Devolution denier mindset?
     
  14. Kai_S.

    Kai_S. New Member

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    I discovered Morrissey's music because of this track. Nothing else than 10 for me!
     
  15. sweet and tender hooligan

    sweet and tender hooligan Black cloud

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    This was the first solo morrissey song i heard and it got me into Morrissey( well i would have anyway through the smiths). So it reminds me of when i first discovered all of Morrissey's songs.
     
  16. SNS22

    SNS22 Not Dead Yet

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    Too Short...although I think I should have given it a 9 instead of 8 for it's Sick to death of Labor and Tories....
     
  17. Johan de Witt

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    I agree, abut the 9 as well.
    Maybe not the best Moz-song of the last 10 years, but certainly the most important.
     
  18. Albion

    Albion Me

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    I remember when it was first released, i had just started getting into music and heard some Smiths songs that i loved. Then i was flicking through TV stations this came on and "Oh he's still got it" came into my mind. It was the start of a wonderful journey into his back catalogue. Anyway 10
     
  19. down_in_albion

    down_in_albion Clandestine global evil

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    I like the lyrics but was always unimpressed by the music. 7
     
  20. Comtesse

    Comtesse Starved Of Mirth

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    I should also mention that this song is notable as being one of the very few Morrissey songs that my girlfriend actually likes.

    "So how did I end up
    attached to this person
    when her taste in music
    grows gradually worser?"
     
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