The Moz/Smiths Top 100, Part 170: SWEET AND TENDER HOOLIGAN

How do you rate Sweet And Tender Hooligan?


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Houdini

Junior Member
Let's compile our own Morrissey/Smiths Top 100 by rating all 232 Moz/Smiths-songs.

Song for Today: SWEET AND TENDER HOOLIGAN

Voting should be something along these lines:
10: Perfection
9: Near perfect, brilliant
8: Really good Moz/Smiths song
7: Good Moz/Smiths song
6: OK, Nothing special
5: Uninspired
4: Poor
3: Bad
2: Should never have been released
1: He/They should be ashamed

The songs so far (voting is still open, click to vote):

Part 169: Sunny
Part 168: Suffer Little Children
Part 167: Suedehead
Part 166: Such A Little Thing Makes Such A Big Difference
Part 165: Stretch Out And Wait
Part 164: Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before
Part 163: Still Ill
Part 162: Spring-Heeled Jim
Part 161: Speedway
Part 160: Southpaw
Part 159: Sorrow Will Come In The End
Part 158: Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
Part 157: Slum Mums
Part 156: Skin Storm
Part 155: Sister, I'm A Poet
Part 154: Sing Your Life
Part 153: Shoplifters Of The World Unite
Part 152: Sheila Take A Bow
Part 151: Shakespeare's Sister
Part 150: Seasick Yet Still Docked
Part 149: Satan Rejected My Soul
Part 148: Rusholme Ruffians
Part 147: Rubber Ring
Part 146: Roy's Keen
Part 145: Reel Around The Fountain
Part 144: Redondo Beach
Part 143: Reader Meet Author
Part 142: Pretty Girls Make Graves
Part 141: Pregnant For The Last Time
Part 140: Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want
Part 139: Piccadilly Palare
Part 138: Pashernate Love
Part 137: Papa Jack
Part 136: Panic
Part 135: Paint A Vulgar Picture
Part 134: Our Frank
Part 133: Ouija Board, Ouija Board
Part 132: Oscillate Wildly
Part 131: On The Streets I Ran
Part 130: Oh Well, I'll Never Learn
Part 129: Nowhere Fast
Part 128: Now My Heart Is Full
Part 127: Now I Am A Was
Part 126: November Spawned A Monster
Part 125: Noise Is The Best Revenge
Part 124: Nobody Loves Us
Part 123: No One Can Hold A Candle To You
Part 122: Never Had No One Ever
Part 121: My Love Life
Part 120: My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye
Part 119: Mute Witness
Part 118: Munich Air Disaster 1958
Part 117: Moonriver
Part 116: Money Changes Everything
Part 115: Miserable Lie
Part 114: Michael's Bones
Part 113: Mexico
Part 112: Meat Is Murder
Part 111: Margaret On The Guillotine
Part 110: Maladjusted
Part 109: Lucky Lisp
Part 108: Lost
Part 107: London
Part 106: Little Man, What Now?
Part 105: Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning
Part 104: Life Is A Pigsty
Part 103: Let the Right One Slip In
Part 102: Let Me Kiss You
Part 101: Late Night, Maudlin Street
Part 100: Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
Part 99: King Leer
Part 98: Journalists Who Lie
Part 97: Jeane
Part 96: Jack The Ripper
Part 95: It's Hard To Walk Tall When You're Small
Part 94: Is It Really So Strange?
Part 93: Irish Blood, English Heart
Part 92: Interlude
Part 91: Interesting Drug
Part 90: In The Future When All's Well
Part 89: If You Don't Like Me, Don't Look At Me
Part 88: I've Changed My Plea To Guilty
Part 87: (I'm) The End Of The Family Line
Part 86: I'm Not Sorry
Part 85: I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now
Part 84: I'd Love To
Part 83: I Won't Share You
Part 82: I Will See You In Far Off Places
Part 81: I Want The One I Can't Have
Part 80: I Started Something I Couldn't Finish
Part 79: I Like You
Part 78: I Know Very Well How I Got My Name
Part 77: I Know It's Over
Part 76: I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday
Part 75: I Knew I Was Next
Part 74: I Keep Mine Hidden
Part 73: I Just Want To See The Boy Happy
Part 72: I Have Forgiven Jesus
Part 71: I Don't Owe You Anything
Part 70: I Don't Mind If You Forget Me
Part 69: I Can Have Both
Part 68: I Am Two People
Part 67: I Am Hated For Loving
Part 66: Human Being
Part 65: How Soon Is Now?
Part 64: How Can Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel?
Part 63: Hold On To Your Friends
Part 62: Heir Apparent
Part 61: Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
Part 60: He Knows I'd Love To See Him
Part 59: He Cried
Part 58: Have-A-Go Merchant
Part 57: Handsome Devil
Part 56: Hand In Glove
Part 55: Half A Person
Part 54: Hairdresser On Fire
Part 53: Good Looking Man About Town
Part 52: Golden Lights
Part 51: Glamorous Glue
Part 50: Girlfriend In A Coma
Part 49: Girl Least Likely To
Part 48: Girl Afraid
Part 47: Get Off The Stage
Part 46: Ganglord
Part 45: Friday Mourning
Part 44: Frankly Mr Shankly
Part 43: Found Found Found
Part 42: First Of The Gang To Die
Part 41: Everyday Is Like Sunday (follow this link for first 40 songs).
 

Radio Berlin

moz is ♥
If I had to choose one song to represent the smiths it would be this one.
10.
and he swore that he'd never never do it again, and of course he won't, eh, not until the next time.
Genius
 

Kuiper

Better than Marr
Excellent lyrics and music, really no flaws in it. So not as epic as say Late Night, Maudlin Street, but really there is nothing that falls short in this song. So full of energy and clever, and I wish Morrissey would play it live on a whole tour. I think the current band would do a great job at it, well, I think this current band would do a great job on every song so yeah that opinion doesn't count for much.

10!
 

jeniphir

Doing Very Well
10 please.

--jeniphir
 

Comtesse

Starved Of Mirth
I'm not a big fan of this one. It's okay, it has some good lines in it, but musically it's dull to me. I never really cared for the "rocking out" side of Marr, and during this particular stage Marr's aggressive songs were coming out sounding too similar. This one just kind of blurs into "London" which blurs into "I Started Something..." which blurs into "Sheila Take A Bow". None of which are particularly distinctive to me. The best part of this song is the "In the midst of life we are in debt, etc." line, but I'd still only rate this one a 7.
 

Casagrande

New Member
A bit overrated if you ask me.. I voted 8, but maybe it should have been even lower. I especially dislike Morrissey not so much singing, but yelling the word etcetera.
 

Your Arsenal

yes I am blind
Yeah, I can't believe you guys are giving it a 10. I skip this track alot. *shrug* Not the best, that's for sure. Kinda repetative too.
 

the judge

New Member
I used to love it, now, I don't know, I stopped listening to it. Good lyrics, but the music is not as good.
I gave it 8, anyway.
 

celibate

Forever Ill
a 9

almost , near classic Smiths song, instead of me bragging about the
beauty of Morrissey's lyrics, this song is all about Johnny, what a great
song he produced, guitars all over, this is a big 3 minutes musical masterwork

oh yeah, Morissey lyrics are very witty, almost laugh out loud...
I still wonder how he got away with it, cause there are some hilarious
harsh lines innit

and in the midst of life we are in debt etcetera
 

Maurice E

Junior Member
I think that if you play the guitar (even just strumming a few 'open' chords) you get an additional insight into songs and this one which, along with 3 or 4 other Smiths songs, I play nearly every day and never get bored. A fantastic piece of music and a fine lyric and vocal performance from our Steve. Dix points.
 

Well I Wonder

Now, Today, Tomorrow.....
Cool music & cool lyrics. Cant ask for much more. 8/10.​
 

Comtesse

Starved Of Mirth
I think that if you play the guitar (even just strumming a few 'open' chords) you get an additional insight into songs and this one which, along with 3 or 4 other Smiths songs, I play nearly every day and never get bored. A fantastic piece of music and a fine lyric and vocal performance from our Steve. Dix points.
Not necessarily. I play the guitar and I still find this music boring.
 

Maurice E

Junior Member
Not necessarily. I play the guitar and I still find this music boring.
Maybe you play proper guitar (i.e. not just strumming chords) and don't tend to sing along?

If you love to strum open chords and sing along, Sweet and Tender Hooligan is immensely pleasing!
 

Comtesse

Starved Of Mirth
Maybe you play proper guitar (i.e. not just strumming chords) and don't tend to sing along?

If you love to strum open chords and sing along, Sweet and Tender Hooligan is immensely pleasing!
I think it's just what you like. I prefer Johnny's mellower, more melodic stuff like "Please Please Please..." and "I Know It's Over". I just don't care for his rocking songs very much. For me, Morrissey makes those songs, whereas in songs like "Well I Wonder," it's equal part Johnny and Mozzer that make the song.
 
i gave this a 9 because it was once of the sonsg that i instantly liked. the line "she was old and she would've died anyway" is amazing. the whole song is quite amausing.
 
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