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Primal Scream's Simone Marie Butler tweeted: 'Heaven knows ur into far right nationalistic groups run by anti Islamists now.'

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[Deleted member 28251]

What else can you do?

So yes, accept and let go.

Then what are they wrong about?

They recognise their essence is genetic—a bloodline going back to Abraham which distinguishes them from all the other people on earth.

 

[ForgotHowIGotMyName]

They recognise there essence is genetic—a bloodline going back to Abraham which distinguishes them from all the other people on earth.

This is true. That's why Jewishness is inherited through the mother.

 

[Deleted member 28251]

This is true. That's why Jewishness is inherited through the mother.

Yes. It’s not like it’s a secret, why don’t people know this? It’s in the bible.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Jews are not a religion. Have you ever heard someone describe themselves as an atheist Catholic or an atheist Muslim? Have you ever heard someone say "I'm half Protestant on my mother's side"?

Yes - I have heard people say those things (or lapsed Catholic or cultural Christian).

People are always trying to understand & describe their roots.

Judaism has been treated as an ethnicity under anti-Jewish laws in the past, so is often described as an ethnicity.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

They recognise there essence is genetic—a bloodline going back to Abraham which distinguishes them from all the other people on earth.

No, they recorded their family histories - like the Scottish clans or the aristocracy or ancestor worship.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

This is true. That's why Jewishness is inherited through the mother.

It's their family history.

Like surnames mostly coming from your Dad.

 

[ForgotHowIGotMyName]

Yes - I have heard people say those things (or lapsed Catholic or cultural Christian).

People are always trying to understand & describe their roots.

Judaism has been treated as an ethnicity under anti-Jewish laws in the past, so is often described as an ethnicity.

The blue pills are strong in this one.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

The blue pills are strong in this one.

My ability to research from credible sources is strong.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

They recognise there essence is genetic—a bloodline going back to Abraham which distinguishes them from all the other people on earth.

if that is their belief.


ok.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

No, they recorded their family histories - like the Scottish clans or the aristocracy or ancestor worship.

So, a belief.

 

[Deleted member 28251]

No, they recorded their family histories - like the Scottish clans or the aristocracy or ancestor worship.

Yes. And it stretches back to Abraham.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

So, a belief.

Yes.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Yes. And it stretches back to Abraham.

It might do. Modern notions of scientific accuracy didn't bother people before the Enlightenment (& doesn't stop people making things up after it). The bible mixes history, mythology, poetry, prayers, record keeping & wishful thinking.

 

[Deleted member 28251]

So, a belief.

I guess the point I’m moving towards is that it is a belief, but it’s one that has real world outcomes. It can’t be dismissed as lesser simply because we perceive it as an idea.

The Jewish nation operates with a perspective of itself that (through a disposal to deconstruction) many people in England are being denied. British myths are being trashed, and people are expected to believe it’s of no consequence.

Multiculturalism supposes it can transcend ‘mere’ belief. But the belief is powerful. And for some, it is literally a power in the blood.

I’m speaking as someone who studied Hebrew with a Rabbi. As someone who came to recognise the power of belief, of difference, of mythos and TRADITION!

 

[general disarray]

Stephen! That's daft logic. That's like trusting a magic spell over penicillin because it's got words.

And fish

 

[Deleted member 28251]

It might do. Modern notions of scientific accuracy didn't bother people before the Enlightenment (& doesn't stop people making things up after it). The bible mixes history, mythology, poetry, prayers, record keeping & wishful thinking.

And the Enlightenment contains all of those things too. As does Marxist theory.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

I guess the point I’m moving towards is that it is a belief, but it’s one that has real world outcomes. It can’t be dismissed as lesser simply because we perceive it as an idea.

The Jewish nation operates with a perspective of itself that (through a disposal to deconstruction) many people in England are being denied. British myths are being trashed, and people are expected to believe it’s of no consequence.

Multiculturalism supposes it can transcend ‘mere’ belief. But the belief is powerful. And for some, it is literally a power in the blood.

I’m speaking as someone who studied Hebrew with a Rabbi. As someone who came to recognise the power of belief, of difference, of mythos and TRADITION!

England hasn't lost its traditions, but there has been a loss of community because of lifestyle changes & competition with entertainment.

The Left mardy carping wouldn't stop anything that people valued. We're always mardy. We started as a nonconformist protest movement.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

And the Enlightenment contains all of those things too. As does Marxist theory.

Yes. But it thought it was proving things & being rational.

 

[Deleted member 28251]

Yes. But it thought it was proving things & being rational.

That assumes it’s a transcendent logic that escapes context. And I disagree with that.

Like science, Marx promised to lead people out of ‘the camera obscura of ideology’. I would argue that he led people into a new one. And like religion before it, it denied this was happening. And this corruption haunts the modern left.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

I guess the point I’m moving towards is that it is a belief, but it’s one that has real world outcomes. It can’t be dismissed as lesser simply because we perceive it as an idea.

The Jewish nation operates with a perspective of itself that (through a disposal to deconstruction) many people in England are being denied. British myths are being trashed, and people are expected to believe it’s of no consequence.

Multiculturalism supposes it can transcend ‘mere’ belief. But the belief is powerful. And for some, it is literally a power in the blood.

I’m speaking as someone who studied Hebrew with a Rabbi. As someone who came to recognise the power of belief, of difference, of mythos and TRADITION!

So what can you do?





‘For though they may be parted
there is Still a chance
that they will see
There will be an answer
Let it be’