The Metro: Morrissey’s pro Black Lives Matter tweet dragged on social media (June 3, 2020)

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Nerak

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The social sciences in the United States has tried and tried and tried and tried to prove that blacks were as intelligent as whites and they keep running into the same 15 point IQ gap again and again and again.

They’ve tried controlling for income. They’ve tried controlling for education. They’ve tried controlling for environment. They’ve tried studying black children raised by white families. They tried bussing black kids to white schools (and vice versa). They tried giving a black school district unlimited resources. They’ve tried making culturally neutral IQ tests They’ve tried studying identical twins raised separately.

It’s ALL been tried.
What studies, what scientists?

All the evidence shows that IQ tests are by & large worthless as anything but a sign of how well a person understands those particular questions. It's like an entrance exam.
 

ForgotHowIGotMyName

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What studies, what scientists?

All the evidence shows that IQ tests are by & large worthless as anything but a sign of how well a person understands those particular questions. It's like an entrance exam.
Show me this evidence you are talking about.

IQ is one of the most reliable predictors of life outcomes.
 

ForgotHowIGotMyName

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It's a reliable predictor because it's like an exam & people who pass exams get better jobs because employers look for it on their C.V. (resume).
It’s also illegal for employers to give applicants IQ tests or hire based on IQ.
They used to be able to do that but the Supreme Court decided it was discriminatory. So businesses started using college degrees as a proxy under the assumption you had to be reasonably intelligent to make it through four years of college. Now everyone has tens of thousands of dollars in debt to get an entry level job.
 

ForgotHowIGotMyName

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An exam is a test.

It's a test that happens to be for a subject that the person is studying.

People can & do study for an IQ test if they know they're sitting one - it's like studying for a quiz show.
For the sake of argument, lets say you COULD study for an IQ test.

Are you suggesting that white people are all studying for these tests and blacks aren’t? Is this what you are asking me to believe? Is that the kind of shit you have to tell yourself to hold your worldview together?
 
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How on earth would you know? You’ve never been invited to a social gathering - black, white or otherwise. All you do is talk out of your ass.
Exactly! How on earth would you know? You must have been there in her, ah, never mind.
 

Nerak

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For the sake of argument, lets say you COULD study for an IQ test.

Are you suggesting that white people are all studying for these tests and blacks aren’t? Is this what you are asking me to believe? Is that the kind of shit you have to tell yourself to hold your worldview together?
Twigged you're wrong, eh?

The IQ tests come out of the same culture as exams - groups or individuals already doing well in the school system will do better at IQ tests.
 

ForgotHowIGotMyName

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Twigged you're wrong, eh?

The IQ tests come out of the same culture as exams - groups or individuals already doing well in the school system will do better at IQ tests.
Do you have any idea how retarded that statement is?
You are trying to say that people who score high on IQ tests also tend to do well in school and you think that is evidence that IQ ISN’T a predictor of intelligence? Are you really that stupid?
 

Nerak

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Do you have any idea how retarded that statement is?
You are trying to say that people who score high on IQ tests also tend to do well in school and you think that is evidence that IQ ISN’T a predictor of intelligence? Are you really that stupid?
Jesus - you are limited.

Doing well in the school system has a lot to do with class & family background. A middle-class kid - with more access to resources - has an easier time of it than a working-class kid.
 

ForgotHowIGotMyName

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Jesus - you are limited.

Doing well in the school system has a lot to do with class & family background. A middle-class kid - with more access to resources - has an easier time of it than a working-class kid.
AGAIN, it’s been tried. They have tried controlling for income and the racial discrepancies still persist.

You are just making stuff up at this point.
 

ForgotHowIGotMyName

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Jesus - you are limited.

Doing well in the school system has a lot to do with class & family background. A middle-class kid - with more access to resources - has an easier time of it than a working-class kid.
OK, let me ask this to get a feel for just how deep into genetics denial you are.

Is intelligence heritable?

That’s a yes or no question.
 

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