"The Hand That Rocks The Cradle" original, full length (Decibelle Studios) posted on YouTube

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Erik, Dec 31, 2018.

By Erik on Dec 31, 2018 at 11:40 PM
  1. Erik

    Erik #23

    Jun 1, 2000


    The original Decibelle recording. Brings back so many memories. Thanks to Philipe Delcloque, one of the many unsung heroes of the late 70's, early 80's Manchester music scene.

    UPDATE Jan. 1:

    Additional clips added (Domu Kafe channel):

    UPDATE Jan. 3:

    Link posted by Famous when dead:

    Listen to The Smiths’ earliest studio demo from 1982 — including isolated guitar, vocals - Slicing Up Eyeballs

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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Erik, Dec 31, 2018.

    1. mcrickson
      Man, this is really something. Hearing the genesis of that voice.
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    2. Famous when dead
      Famous when dead
      A nice New Year's surprise.
      (PJLM asserts:
      'This version features Johnny on back vocals and guitar, Dale Hibbert on bass and Simon Wolstencroft on drums.'
      Anyone hear Johnny's vocals on this?)
      The Philippe Dale mentions in the YT description was the owner of Decibelle Studios.

      Thank you

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    3. Lamplighter
      More proof, if it was needed, of the importance of Andy's baseline. Dead without it. Fantastic track, thanks so much for releasing it.
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    4. FROSTY
      What a pleasure to hear this... It made me look back to hear that 30 second "practice" muffled " I want a boy For My Birthday" cover of the Cookies Dale sold to a collector a while back...
    5. FROSTY
      Am I correct that there are only 2 tracks on the Decibelle recording 16 track?

      1. The hand That Rocks The Cradle
      2. Suffer Little Children
    6. evennow
      This may be the genesis, but to me lifeless. A tired garage band version of what would become so special. Right choices were made in the end, and in the end we are left with what would become and became The Smiths.

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    7. celibate
      Thanks for this new years present, much apreciated.
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    8. bhops
      It seems like around the 2:30 mark Moz starts singing in an especially fruity twang.
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    9. Old Mathew
      Old Mathew
      At 2:17 (after "restless spirits try") there is a faint harmony ("hmmm"), so low in the mix it sounds like an intake of breath but is probably Johnny.

      I don't hear any other backing vocals, just that one apparently impromptu note?
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    10. Moth
      If the Bogie man should try...

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    11. Halloway
      At this point Marr had clearly not yet hit upon the wheeze of tuning his guitar up a tone. It's interesting to hear the difference between this rather dirge-like ditty in G compared to the album version in A which is altogether more spritely. The tempo of the latter is also rather quicker which helps. And yes, the lack of the Andy Rourke bass-line is also painfully evident.
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    12. Eric Hartman
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    13. Cornflakes
      Thanks Dale. So far this year, you are officially the best former Smith.
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    14. Thewlis
      Morrissey was ready for fame, fame, fatal fame.
      The rest of the band clearly wasn’t.

      Happy new year to all!
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    15. Rush 2 Danger
      Rush 2 Danger
      With Morrissey's vocals so high in the mix (drowning out almost everything else), one gets a greater appreciation for the lyrics in this track. Amazing lyrics, painting pictures so vividly with his words... and at such a young age too.

      Compare and contrast these lyrics to anything on LIHS and you wouldn't believe it was the same lyricist at work. Kinda sad.
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    16. Johnnie Ray
      Johnnie Ray
      Yes. I have been saying this for awhile. If this was college and The Hand That Rocks The Cradle was turned in as a term paper and the only other writing sample of that student was say...Who Will Protect Us From The Police or Bury The Living, there would be a plagiarism investigation.
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    17. Jim_Royle
      It's the same bassline, though!
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    18. KingKongLeer
      So cool...thanks Dale for sharing this. Can anyone please post a picture of Dale?

      Do you guys think he regrets having left the band?
    19. Famous when dead
      Famous when dead
      Update: 1st January, 2019:

      Um... Mention Johnny's vocal and Dale obliges:

      The whole song JM's parts:

      Guitar parts:

      Morrissey (just vocals):


      A wonderful thing to share.
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