The dreadful state of UK ticket sales

I recently wrote a brief exploration of how drastically Morrissey's ticket sale figures have plummeted in the UK, with special attention given to the startlingly low sales for the upcoming Leeds gig.

With two weeks to go until the show, huge quantities of seats remain unsold in some of the best blocks in the venue while standing floor tickets also remain.

Full article can be seen online here.

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Another bullshit to denigrate Morrissey. Do you remember someone said the same about California Son tour? And well, it was successful, truly successful.

The facts re ticket sales speak for themselves, though. It's not fake news and it is demonstrably true.

The CS tour did have ticket sales issues in some venues but generally did a lot better - but the UK views M differently. The fact that a) the last European tour was cancelled due to poor sales and b) only two venues were booked for this one (not full capacity shows either) suggests that M and his people recognise this.

While some of the responses here do denigrate M, the facts are the facts - sales with just a couple of weeks to go are disappointing. That's not wilful bashing, just the truth.
 
I wrote the article because the subject matter interests me.

I used screen grabs to show how many tickets were remaining. I could see how many seats were remaining for the Leeds gig by looking at the seating map and in my opinion, there was a significant number of unsold tickets.

Morrissey-solo did not change the title of my article. I chose the title 'The dreadful state of UK ticket sales' when I loaded the post into the forum as I felt it best represented the situation.
It doesn’t though. Leeds is not the UK, and yet the Leeds show is what your article is about. And even for Leeds you have given us no evidence as to how many tickets have been sold. Also you make bizarre assumptions as to the reasoning behind the assumption that ticket sales may be poor. How many people did Morrissey play in front of last time he played Leeds? And how many this time? If it 50 per cent less then you could have a case but even then there are other reasons you would need to consider.
 
Another bullshit to denigrate Morrissey. Do you remember someone said the same about California Son tour? And well, it was successful, truly successful.
Exactly. All large venues and all at least 75-80 per cent full. Same will be the case for Leeds and London. But some people like to spread rumours around. What amazes me is that M-solo chooses to highlight such rumours, but given its history we should not be surprised I guess.
 
Where it was once love, it is now predominantly hatred, but Morrissey can still stir up a lot of emotions and bring people together. Believe me, the haters will be the last ones to leave.
Yes, they will not rest until his loving mouth is shut good and proper :) And much after no doubt.

Amazing how some of his biggest fans are now acting much worse than NME ever did in those days.

Testament only to Morrissey’s lasting impact when even his former fans are so obsessed by his every move.
 
I could never turn on someone who puts themselves artistically on the line the way Morrissey does.

Esp. not because he's agitating his mind with news & PETA videos & giving out scattergun opinions in interviews.

I think you've made it quite clear how quickly you'll turn on someone and how relentlessly you'll continue to do so.
 
Exactly. All large venues and all at least 75-80 per cent full. Same will be the case for Leeds and London. But some people like to spread rumours around. What amazes me is that M-solo chooses to highlight such rumours, but given its history we should not be surprised I guess.

How can Leeds be 75 - 80% full when that have only made 65% of the capacity available for sale.
 
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The entire European tour of 2018 was cancelled. Every single one of them, including two in Manchester. And remember his US tour of 2019? Where they had to drop the prices to sell out the venues. Yes, the world is listening to your bollocks, Mozza - and not liking it one bit.

The problem with your logic here is that he's selling elsewhere. It's only in the UK where the populace are more aware of his bigotry. Are you suggesting the critical appreciation of his most recent releases stops at borders? It's only a matter of time until the rest of the world catches up.
 
As others have pointed out - low ticket sales in the UK have little to do with Moz's throwaway comments. The right to be offensive (especially to the PC brigade) is one of the fundamental human rights - and exercising that right is one of the fundamental human joys (especially to a cantankerous 60-year old like Morrissey). Most thinking people get that.
I live in London - I haven't bought a ticket. I hate stadium shows. If it was the London Palladium, I would be there like a shot. The ticket prices are also way too steep.
But I don't think that's the real reason ticket sales are low. Moz is a cantankerous 60-year old. The role that was being cast for him way back in 2006 - when he came 2nd behind David Attenborough in the Greatest Living British Cultural Icon poll - the role of cuddly uncle of the nation, is a role he has utterly rejected and strangled at birth. And culture in the UK has also changed dramatically. Who would have thought that Stormzy would now be held up as cuddly uncle of the nation? And it's clearly a role the poor sod wants. A knighthood awaits. And let's face it, 80s and 90s pop stars who are still going mostly play hits - look at the Pet Shop Boys who are touring with shows where they are only playing all their hit singles back to back. But Moz just plays what he wants. He always has done. Moz would have filled a residency of intimate shows, no problem. But his days of filling stadiums are over, at least in the UK. Grime is in, Moz is out. That's fa-fa-fa-fa-fashion.
Your obviously a long term fan, who knows when he'll next be in London as his last UK gig was The London Palladiun TWO years ago (as you know). Get yourself along to Wembley as you'll regret it sitting in your living room watching the dreaded Masked Singer or whatever else is on crap Sat night tv knowing that Moz is on stage in your home city just a tube ride away!
 
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Yes, they will not rest until his loving mouth is shut good and proper :) And much after no doubt.

Amazing how some of his biggest fans are now acting much worse than NME ever did in those days.

Testament only to Morrissey’s lasting impact when even his former fans are so obsessed by his every move.
If you wasted your life like Peter finan you have no choice but to stick until death
 
His fanbase has changed. There will always be the hardcore who'd pay £85 to watch him burp the national anthem. But nowadays there seems to be an awful lot of new fans who share his ideologies, having been drawn to him by his recent outpourings. He's become a bit of an alt-right poster boy. Lots of people don't fancy going to shows surrounded by far right tossbags with a bellyful of booze in them.
Absolute codswallop!
 
He's not an alt-right poster boy - they might use his name to annoy someone on the internet, but they're not interested in a humasexual vegan who hates the Royals, supported the IRA & sings about unrequited love.

If Moz had joined their circuit (even in the milder way Laurence Fox has) or said more things, maybe - but he didn't. He's coming from the left on nearly everything.

I think Moz just doesn't understand why more left-wingers aren't expressing concern for things like the grooming gang scandals or religious terrorism that targets journalists & gay people.

Morrissey is an alt-right poster boy.

Anyone interested enough in research only has to review the increase in alt-right propaganda in this forum since 2017 and it's increasing acceptability within this forum.

Devoted UK fans from '83 onwards left his side in their thousands when it became clear to them that Morrissey was no longer 'flirting' with racism but was actually promoting it. Some who hung on went to the 1st set of UK shows in 2018. For some the attending crowd (aggressive/disinterested) was enough to convince them that it had all changed: the atmosphere poisoned, their fears justified.

Come the 2nd round of shows in 2018 Morrissey couldn't sell out a single venue with ticket sales in a dire straits. The majority of his devoted fan base gone.

Morrissey is as conservative as they come Anytime he opens his mouth about any sensitive subject he makes a arrogant mess of it because he thinks he knows best. If someone wants to call him left-wing I'd say "yes, as 'left-wing' as 'Sir' Keir Starmer". He has been establishment (small e) for most of his working life.

He has quite single-handedly provided a comfortable home and safe space for alt-right commentary in this forum that is: obsessed with attacking gay men with paedophilic and grooming hatred, promoting an alt-right Christian agenda dismissive of the experiences of those involved in sexual violence and is intent on demeaning black people, jewish people, immigrants and Muslims. Morrissey has enabled this whether conscious of it or not.

Morissey recently claimed "he had no issue with The House of Windsor". This gives more than an indication of just how fickle the man is.

He used to a sweet boy but now ....
 
Because the concert is not tonight but in 16 days. Closer to album release means more publicity and more ticket sales.

Mmm, right - so they have made 65% of the capacity available and he hasn’t sold that out, the original poster reckons there are 1000 tickets of that allocation available. The upper tier holds about 5000 people. Do you really think he’s going to sell another 4000 tickets between now and then?
 
Yes, they will not rest until his loving mouth is shut good and proper :) And much after no doubt.

Amazing how some of his biggest fans are now acting much worse than NME ever did in those days.

Testament only to Morrissey’s lasting impact when even his former fans are so obsessed by his every move.
Hello Thewlis, I’ve been listening to Morrissey since 1992; I’ve been to many gigs and Morrissey related events.

Through out that time I’ve come across several of the people who are now full of venom on this site. I’d like to make something crystal: these people haven’t ‘changed’; they have always been utterly sickening and slimy. And for me, as a working class Morrissey fan, they came across as exploitative, condescending, self-centred f***ers who would try and set fire to any project which didn’t have them at the centre.

I didn’t trust the shit stains, and I stayed well clear of the c***s even as our paths crossed: This is the reason that I didn’t write on this site for nearly two decades, despite accessing it for news for about 18 years.

In a nutshell, the haters used Morrissey as a means of supporting their own fragile egos. And they perceived a lot of the fan base as lesser beings, and a threat to the attention they thirsted: that was never going to work out. Morrissey was never going to pander to them.

And now, by f***, they want to make sure Morrissey and those who continue to support him pay for that. Some have made it clear they want people jobless, some want blood; most would go away for cash. They’ve always been that type.
 
just got off the phone with Paris TICKETMASTER> here is what they had to say::blacktelephone:

MONSIEUR MOZ SOLD OUT SOLD OUT NO MORE TICKETS.:thumb:

they also said they already sent Moz his million franc fee.:rock:

you're f***ing odd, you are.
 
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