The aging of Morrissey...

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King Leer

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My girlfriend (a casual listener of Morrissey at best) put it this way while watching the recent documentary:

"He looks really good, but he looks older than his age."

Seemed pretty accurate. The opinions seem to vary so wildly on here though..
 
Interesting comment indeed by your girlfriend!

I thought he looked rather old during the interview sections of Importance Of. But he's 43, he's entitled to an off day. And it wasn't as if he looked awful or anything, just a little grey. At least he hasn't resorted to dyes and plastic to look younger.
 
my mum has always said he was 'quite attractive'. she saw a bit of the documentry and said he looked ugly :~

he still gives me a stonker.
 
It could be bad lighting, sometimes he looks great, in others he looks awful.
Another explanation might be all that vegeterian stuff, lack of meat.
Also the Californian sun.
 
Cinematography and Vegetarianism

Yes, he seemed pissed off that they kept shooting him from his chin, which doesn't make anybody look good, really. You're right that he seems to look great or bad depending on the photo or footage. I guess that would apply to anybody. Can't think of too many bad pix of him pre-Southpaw, though. He claims not to "do anything" (exercise, health kicks etc.).

The vegetarian thing...the jury's still out on that one. Does the lack of meat affect appearance after many years? I don't eat beef, live for long periods without pork, but chicken and fish (especially fish)--I think I'd waste away without them, probably because I'd become so Bored with eating in general I'd give it up.
 
Re: Cinematography and Vegetarianism

I don't know, he doesn't seem keen on using pictures more recent than pre-southpaw. Like the one on Under the Influence.

It is said humans need animal protein, but I don't really know.
Humans are by nature carnivors and from what I've heard being
vegeterian isn't very good for your health.

> Yes, he seemed pissed off that they kept shooting him from his chin, which
> doesn't make anybody look good, really. You're right that he seems to look
> great or bad depending on the photo or footage. I guess that would apply
> to anybody. Can't think of too many bad pix of him pre-Southpaw, though.
> He claims not to "do anything" (exercise, health kicks etc.).

> The vegetarian thing...the jury's still out on that one. Does the lack of
> meat affect appearance after many years? I don't eat beef, live for long
> periods without pork, but chicken and fish (especially fish)--I think I'd
> waste away without them, probably because I'd become so Bored with eating
> in general I'd give it up.
 
Re: Cinematography and Vegetarianism

> It is said humans need animal protein, but I don't really know.
> Humans are by nature carnivors and from what I've heard being
> vegeterian isn't very good for your health.

I think that's still a controversial point. Physiologically speaking, I think one could make a really good argument to suggest that we are herbivores. But if you look back in history homo sapiens beat out their counter parts (I forget their technical name) due to the fact that they ate meat and from this developed a larger brain.

As for long last effects? I've read on several ocassions that a vegetarian diet reduces your chance of cancer. Other diseases, I'm not too certain about.
 
Re: Cinematography and Vegetarianism

> I don't know, he doesn't seem keen on using pictures more recent than
> pre-southpaw. Like the one on Under the Influence.

I think the only reason for using that shot for 'Under The Influence' was because he was standing outside a pub. The phrase 'under the influence' generally refers to booze. So, I think this pic was chosen for the gag, not from vanity.
 
> My girlfriend (a casual listener of Morrissey at best) put it this way
> while watching the recent documentary:

> "He looks really good, but he looks older than his age."

> Seemed pretty accurate. The opinions seem to vary so wildly on here
> though..

My freind said something similar. I had a picture of him from the Word article as my wallpaper and he saw it. Later on I was talking about Morrissey, and I was saying how the Smiths were a long time ago, and how he's in his forties now, and in the music industry these days 23 is old. He turned to me and said "I thought he was like fifty or some shit!" Then he explained his seeing my wallpaper and whatnot.
 
Re: Cinematography and Vegetarianism

> Yes, he seemed pissed off that they kept shooting him from his chin, which
> doesn't make anybody look good, really. You're right that he seems to look
> great or bad depending on the photo or footage. I guess that would apply
> to anybody. Can't think of too many bad pix of him pre-Southpaw, though.
> He claims not to "do anything" (exercise, health kicks etc.).

> The vegetarian thing...the jury's still out on that one. Does the lack of
> meat affect appearance after many years? I don't eat beef, live for long
> periods without pork, but chicken and fish (especially fish)--I think I'd
> waste away without them, probably because I'd become so Bored with eating
> in general I'd give it up.

The only real problem with vegetarianism is that it can dry out your skin, which can make it appear older. Oily and dry skin age at the same rate, its just that dry skin shows lines and stuff more easily, plus its uncomfortable. But in California you need the sunblock. I wear a 45 on my face everyday. You have to. Especially if you're from a climate where you don't get a lot of sun, like England. The sun is even harder on your skin, because you naturally produce less melanin, and so your less protected. Tanning is the devil when it comes to aging. You can't do it and expect to look like anything other than old luggage once you hit 35. Most of my teachers were big tanners in the 80's when it was in, and let me tell you, you can spot that luggage a mile away.
 
Re: Cinematography and Vegetarianism

> I think that's still a controversial point. Physiologically speaking, I
> think one could make a really good argument to suggest that we are
> herbivores. But if you look back in history homo sapiens beat out their
> counter parts (I forget their technical name) due to the fact that they
> ate meat and from this developed a larger brain.

> As for long last effects? I've read on several ocassions that a vegetarian
> diet reduces your chance of cancer. Other diseases, I'm not too certain
> about.

People make this health argument a lot, but the truth is that most of us don't get the nutrients that we need. So I don't think vegetarians are any less healthy than the rest of us. You can get protein and vitamins A,K, and C from a lot of different sources. A plant based diet does decrease your risk of cancer, but they've found the main reason for this is that vegetarians tend to be more concious about getting all of their nutrients, and they tend to eat a larger variety of foods than non vegetarians, which means they get more tamatoes, red wine, soy, anitoxidents, selium, and what not than the rest of us.
 
Re: Cinematography and Vegetarianism

> The only real problem with vegetarianism is that it can dry out your skin,
> which can make it appear older. Oily and dry skin age at the same rate,
> its just that dry skin shows lines and stuff more easily, plus its
> uncomfortable. But in California you need the sunblock. I wear a 45 on my
> face everyday. You have to. Especially if you're from a climate where you
> don't get a lot of sun, like England. The sun is even harder on your skin,
> because you naturally produce less melanin, and so your less protected.
> Tanning is the devil when it comes to aging. You can't do it and expect to
> look like anything other than old luggage once you hit 35. Most of my
> teachers were big tanners in the 80's when it was in, and let me tell you,
> you can spot that luggage a mile away.

Couldn't agree more, MM.
As I've said before, " Nothing appears to be between the ears of the lazy sunbathers" is a line that more people should pay more attention to. Why be in the sun for any more than five or ten minutes?
wakey wakey everyone, have some coffee. (or something like that)
 
Re: Cinematography and Vegetarianism

> Couldn't agree more, MM.
> As I've said before, " Nothing appears to be between the ears of the
> lazy sunbathers" is a line that more people should pay more attention
> to. Why be in the sun for any more than five or ten minutes?
> wakey wakey everyone, have some coffee. (or something like that)

Morrissey was a victim of poor lighting and makeup which could have been covered up by moisturizer and makeup. I thought I read somewhere he had a great tan during the filming so he's lucky he didn't get fine lines in his mid 30's.
Patrick, how are you making out with that HOT weather?
 
Vegetarianism

> People make this health argument a lot, but the truth is that most of us
> don't get the nutrients that we need. So I don't think vegetarians are any
> less healthy than the rest of us. You can get protein and vitamins A,K,
> and C from a lot of different sources. A plant based diet does decrease
> your risk of cancer, but they've found the main reason for this is that
> vegetarians tend to be more concious about getting all of their nutrients,
> and they tend to eat a larger variety of foods than non vegetarians, which
> means they get more tamatoes, red wine, soy, anitoxidents, selium, and
> what not than the rest of us.

I've been vegetarian for 8 years now. I don't eat anything that had a face or a parent. When I ate meat, I found I was sick constantly. My immune system was basically non-existent. When I cut out meat completely, I had a hard time at first because I didn't do it properly. I wasn't taking supplements and I wasn't very familiar with the vegetarian diet. My iron level was VERY low. I was sleeping about 10 times a day, etc. I went to the doctors and she instructed me on what vitamin supplements to take. I cook tons of different vegetable / vegetarian dishes and now I feel great! With the combination of that and quitting smoking over 3 years ago, I am NEVER sick. I can't even recall the last time I had a cold. Huge difference from my meat-eating days. Anybody who knows me can attest to this as well. I'm very happy to be vegetarian. I could NEVER go back to eating meat.
Many doctors recommend vegetarian diets (or at least cutting out red meat) as well so that says something, doesn't it?
 
Re: Cinematography and Vegetarianism

> Morrissey was a victim of poor lighting and makeup which could have been
> covered up by moisturizer and makeup. I thought I read somewhere he had a
> great tan during the filming so he's lucky he didn't get fine lines in his
> mid 30's.
> Patrick, how are you making out with that HOT weather?

It's just sooooooooooooo hot,lgdac. It's okay for desk-sitters and other indoor types. I'm on the roof of a construction site and it's murrderr!!
Everyone else is sripped to the waist (ha! the fools) but not me. Although I have the best bod, I keep mine hidden.
Long-sleeved moz-shirt. Full-length moz-trousers. Floppy moz-hat (some of you may know it as a ,ahem, liam gallagher hat),and black steel-toecapped moz-boots. Throw in the moz-sibeburns and it could be moz himself up there, grafting in the unbearable heat, keeping the country's economy on an even keel single-handedly.
"Oooooooh, it's too hot", they complain.
"Oooooooh, we shouldn't be working in this heat", they moan.
" Come on, ya big girls!!", I shout, "let's do it! Put your own needs to one side for once in yer miserable lives and think of the economy!! These are turbulent times!!!"
Aye.......
does anyone know what the symptoms of heatstroke are?
 
Re: Cinematography and Vegetarianism

> It's just sooooooooooooo hot,lgdac. It's okay for desk-sitters and other
> indoor types. I'm on the roof of a construction site and it's murrderr!!
> Everyone else is sripped to the waist (ha! the fools) but not me. Although
> I have the best bod, I keep mine hidden.
> Long-sleeved moz-shirt. Full-length moz-trousers. Floppy moz-hat (some of
> you may know it as a ,ahem, liam gallagher hat),and black steel-toecapped
> moz-boots. Throw in the moz-sibeburns and it could be moz himself up
> there, grafting in the unbearable heat, keeping the country's economy on
> an even keel single-handedly.
> "Oooooooh, it's too hot", they complain.
> "Oooooooh, we shouldn't be working in this heat", they moan.
> " Come on, ya big girls!!", I shout, "let's do it! Put your
> own needs to one side for once in yer miserable lives and think of the
> economy!! These are turbulent times!!!"
> Aye.......
> does anyone know what the symptoms of heatstroke are?
With this post and your new Screen name, I'd say its about time you get out of the sun, into some shade, and drink plenty of fluids.
Something is really messed up here because I think we have London's weather here and you have NY's.
 
Re: Vegetarianism

> I've been vegetarian for 8 years now. I don't eat anything that had a face
> or a parent.
To Whoever this is:
Go and get a botany textbook. Look up the term "Alternation of Generations." You will find that plants have a second phase of the life cycle which needs an egg and sperm to reproduce.
 
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