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Re: Surely how I feel is not nothing? MORRISSEY 16 APR 2016

16 April 2013

Surely how I feel is not nothing?

by Morrissey, 15 april 2013
But isn't that his attitude towards his fans?
 

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Anybody would think this was actually JohnnyBarleycorn-solo.com. Now THAT'S a genuine source of rambling, hateful, self-important twaddle. If you really don't like Morrissey, as seems to be the case, then why not go away, sonny Jim?
 
And I'll make my point again...we're all still sitting here discussing him...so yes his views are relevant, however 'badly written'.
Put it this way, I would never ever comment on a Justin Bieber forum however much he rants on about Anne Frank in his absurd way. Hell would have to freeze over first.
Whereas you're all still here commenting and picking apart his words. Acting like you don't care.
 
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And so let the media bashing begin. It's so very easy when things are not reported the way we would like to say "it were the media that done did it". As one side complains of bias, simultaneously the other side will glaring point the finger with the same accusation. It's easily to be blind to the times when our views are broadcast, preferring to only recognise that which we disagree. Only last night did the BBC news feature politicians calling such a lavish funeral ludicrous and undeserved. It's easy to ignore that and continue to yell "BIAS!" because it supports theories held dear.

Again, the media is lumped in together. I hate to break it to you kids but there isn't a matrix that we plug into at the end of the night. Special cookies laced with barbiturates aren't passed around at nightly underground meetings to make us more susceptible to the Leader's message. The 'Media' is compromised of many people just like you. We are not robots. Articles, news pieces, programmes are all a result of experiences borne by the individual. Unfortunately a valid criticism that is often mounted is that the media tends to be comprised of white, middle class males. It's true. If anything this is the great failing of the mainstream media. And so what is reflected is the world seen through those eyes.

A great conspiracy is baseless. To report that the 'Ding Dong' failed to reach number one is the correct way to state that fact. After all, wasn't that the aim? Shouldn't it be reported in that context? To report that the song succeeded in reaching number two would mean editorialising the news which of course would only lead to more grumbling - this time of a left wing bias.

Admittedly, my own personal feelings is that the BBC treated the whole debacle badly. In trying to please everyone, they pleased no one. But that is the great failing of the BBC. It is there to speak for everyone. Its remit is not to be controversial or to provoke. That was the breach that Channel 4 once tried to embrace. The BBC's role is not to be anti-establishment. It is there to provide information impartially. You will find very few polemics there. It is to inform, educate and entertain. On the whole it takes the view that it is there to reflect the voice of the majority. That's where the problem lies. Unfortunately Morrissey fans, the majority of this country is not anti-establishment. Thatcher was genuinely loved by many. She was voted in three times by the electorate. Her popularity amongst Middle England should not come as a surprise. Additionally, time has also dulled the memories of a great many leaving them a fondness for the UK's first female PM.

You may not agree with them but they are there. The situation we are left to deal with is a mix of social conventions which dictate it is tasteless to speak ill of the dead, twenty plus years to let bygones be bygones and a broadcasting corporation who always, always, always errs on the side of the inoffensive.

With all that said, this will fall on deaf ears and people will continue as on the path they feel most comfortable. Don't let the truth get in the way.
justify as you wish. the media needs bashed, and needs to take stock of itself. it's an easily manipulated entity.
 
Starting to think that someone is very proud of their command of the English language. You pretentious twat.
Some years ago, around the time of Britpop, it seemed that along with lad and ladette culture we also started to lionise stupidity and a lack of even basic knowledge became something to be proud of. There was a time Morrissey would have agreed broadly with that view. Now he seems to have given up and joined in.

I went to see Titanic when it came out with my then girlfriend. I dropped her back at home, which she shared with a friend. We were asked what we thought of it, to which I replied "Yeah, it was OK. It got better when it sank.", to which her friend replied angrily "Don't tell me! I'm going to see it on Saturday night!"

Thing is... I don't care greatly how people spell or punctuate but I think it's fair comment to point out to those who seemingly cannot write English as it should be written that they may not be the best people to judge the increasingly inane ramblings of a fading pop star.

Time and again on this site we see people react to his fact-free meanderings as if they were the sermon on the mount. As a few people have pointed out the more statements Morrissey publishes the more he reveals himself to be very far from the literate intellectual he has spent the last thirty years pretending to be.
 
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Some years ago, around the time of Britpop, it seemed that along with lad and ladette culture we also started to lionise stupidity and a lack of even basic knowledge became something to be proud of. There was a time Morrissey would have agreed broadly with that view. Now he seems ti have given up and joined in.

I went to see Titanic when it came out with my then girlfriend. I dropped her back at home, which she shared with a friend. We were asked what we thought of it, to which I replied "Yeah, it was OK. It got better when it sank.", to which her friend replied angrily "Don't tell me! I'm going to see it on Saturday night!"

Thing is... I don't care greatly how people spell or punctuate but I think it's fair comment to point out to those who seemingly cannot write English as it should be written that they may not be the best people to judge the increasingly inane ramblings of a fading pop star.

Time and again on this site we see people react to his fact-free meanderings as if they were the sermon on the mount. As a few people have pointed out the more statements Morrissey publishes the more he reveals himself to be very far from the literate intellectual he has spent the last thirty years pretending to be.
Pretending. If you want to see a pretender, have a look in a mirror.

Morrissey's shit has more knowledge, wisdom, and insight than you and your rambling rants.

This site cracks me up.

(by the way, how's my paragraph structure? To complain call 1-800 EAT SHIT)
 
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Thus speaks the self-made millionaire who has spent his entire career looking out for himself and financially screwing everyone else, whilst maintaining that he is unable to recognise this thing called 'society' from which he feels wholly alienated, and that people are generally overrated. Morrissey embodies Thatcherism: he is a product of his era. He only decries Thatcherism because he still thinks it serves his commercial interests to do so - how Thatcherist is that? He may affect to be a socialist, but everything about him declares him to be a dyed in the wool Conservative - not least his views on immigration.
 
I just wish he'd fork out for a proper website using a designer that knows how to lay out text so that it's not a headache-inducing block of words.
I agree. I'm no web designer but I know TTY is way more complicated than it needs to be and could be cleaned up and simplified while nodding to Julia's original design. Way easier to read...



(Bored and suffering from heartburn. :p)
 
Pretending. If you want to see a pretender, have a look in a mirror.

Morrissey's shit has more knowledge, wisdom, and insight than you and your rambling rants.

This site cracks me up.

(by the way, how's my paragraph structure? To complain call 1-800 EAT SHIT)
Johnny Barleycorn is actually one of the most insightful, intelligent, and articulate posters on this site. And EVERYTHING he has written thus far--that I have read--is arguably more carefully constructed than this last statement penned by Morrissey. You just don't like the messages he is offering up.

Stream of consciousness writing can be effective in certain formats--first person narratives, poems... but not in a blog post that is going to be picked over by legions of long-term fans and possibly the press. Writing for the sake permanence is different from writing for a personal diary. This last post of his reads like the latter--a cathartic, overlong paragraph of thoughts strung together with silly string. Sorry. But it's true.
 
London, eh?
Why do you do that? London, Cambridge, Croatia etc. Calling out posters locations (or what you think their locations are) doesn't make you clever, it only makes you petty.

So you can see their IP addresses. So what? Big deal.

Yes, and I'm typing this from Manchester.
 
Why do you do that? London, Cambridge, Croatia etc. Calling out posters locations (or what you think their locations are) doesn't make you clever, it only makes you petty.

So you can see their IP addresses. So what? Big deal.

Yes, and I'm typing this from Manchester.
So what? As David pointed out recently, we can call out the frauds when they are frauds, like the guy who posted in support of his own posts. I smell a troll and I'm pointing out inconsistencies in their story. So what? Do you want to come and do this? I couldn't care less if you think it makes me petty or anything else.

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So what? As David pointed out recently, we can call out the frauds when they are frauds, like the guy who posted in support of his own posts. I smell a troll and I'm pointing out inconsistencies in their story. So what? Do you want to come and do this?

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Oh no! Someone on the internet is sockpuppeting on a forum! What ever we will do! What will become of us? Thank heavens we have people like you to make the world just that bit safer.

I don't want to do it, no. My point is that it is unnecessary that anyone do it, Sheriff.
 
Oh no! Someone on the internet is sockpuppeting on a forum! What ever we will do! What will become of us? Thank heavens we have people like you to make the world just that bit safer.

I don't want to do it, no. My point is that it is unnecessary that anyone do it, Sheriff.
Good. Then we can all enjoy our evenings doing worthwhile stuff, Missus.

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He did. And what's your point here? Bland sloganeering of platitudes, or substantive comment?

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I've stated my point. You responded with a non-sequitur. So now boss, I'm just 'enjoying my evening doing worthwhile stuff'.

Is that wrong again? Oh no. Acceding to a Morrissey-solo moderator sure is hard.
 
I've stated my point. You responded with a non-sequitur. So now boss, I'm just 'enjoying my evening doing worthwhile stuff'.

Is that wrong again? Oh no. Acceding to a Morrissey-solo moderator sure is hard.
I'm sure that means something to you. I'm listening to reggae, having a beer, going to bed soon. That's pretty worthwhile.

Love,

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