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Benedict Cumberbatch Refuses to Discuss His Controversial Simpsons Morrissey Parody

During an interview with Esquire, Cumberbatch was asked about his parody role as the singer/songwriter Morrissey in "Panic on the Streets of Springfield," the 19th episode of The Simpsons' 32nd season. "That was not Morrissey!" Cumberbatch insisted.


Not bumping an old thread for this.
FWD.
 

Nerak

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Benedict Cumberbatch Refuses to Discuss His Controversial Simpsons Morrissey Parody

During an interview with Esquire, Cumberbatch was asked about his parody role as the singer/songwriter Morrissey in "Panic on the Streets of Springfield," the 19th episode of The Simpsons' 32nd season. "That was not Morrissey!" Cumberbatch insisted.


Not bumping an old thread for this.
FWD.

Ashamed of the ad-lib????

We know it's Morrissey because the production said so in their social media - so that's a lie.
 

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This:

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Out now to decent reviews.
There's about ~80 Morrissey & Smiths mentions.
Only speed read parts, but looks like a thorough book and worth reading.
If anyone wants to do so - PM me.
Regards,
FWD.

Sample of the writing style:

Some remember Morrissey in those last years of the 1970s as once adolescently infatuated with James Dean and the New York Dolls, somewhere between messed-up mummy’s boy and eternally disappointed, sexually ambiguous attention-seeker, and with vague, far-fetched ambitions to be something that would either take him to writing scripts for Coronation Street or becoming a flamboyantly obscure pop singer big in a town or two in Italy. Others dismissed him as the very embodiment of a disturbed, persecuted loser. Wilson would claim he imagined Morrissey would become ‘our Dostoevsky’, naturally fancying that Manchester should possess such a thing, a literary genius weaned on Cilla Black and Oscar Wilde.
In 1980, as though he was a doctor specialising in non-specific anxiety, Wilson was summoned to Morrissey’s mum’s house in Stretford, and went up to his bedroom, his secret chamber, where, sat awkwardly on the edge of his single bed, in a small room dominated by a poster of James Dean, Morrissey solemnly informed him that he had decided to become a pop star. Steven had made a wish and seemed quite sure it would come true. Wilson indulged him, but even though he saw occult genius playing in the awkward young lad’s eyes, he thought the idea preposterous. ‘In my mind,’ Wilson would say, ‘he was the last person on the planet likely to become a pop star.’

Maybe he didn’t stifle his laughter as much as he thought he did, so that when, over thirty years later, I asked Morrissey if I could talk to him for this book, he definitely couldn’t stifle his laughter, or hide a look on his face as though he considered Wilson a total fraud, irrelevant to his life, nothing but a third-class villain.
Wilson once said, possibly as a compliment, ‘Morrissey is the Jeanette Winterson of pop music, a woman trapped inside a man’s body.’ Morrissey replied, camp, cutting bully versus camp, cutting bully, heightened bitchiness tipping over into the nativist misogyny that would increasingly isolate him thirty years later, ‘Tony Wilson is a man trapped inside a pig’s body; the day someone shoves Wilson in the boot of a car and drives his body to Saddleworth Moor, that is the day Manchester music will be revived.’
 

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’Morrissey replied, camp, cutting bully versus camp, cutting bully, heightened bitchiness tipping over into the nativist misogyny that would increasingly isolate him thirty years later, ‘Tony Wilson is a man trapped inside a pig’s body; the day someone shoves Wilson in the boot of a car and drives his body to Saddleworth Moor, that is the day Manchester music will be revived.’

The what now?
 

NealCassidy

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“Whereas Merchant was more dismissive of Radiohead, remarking: “It’s not something I ever play. Do I really need to hear Fake Plastic Trees one more time?” Before opting to go for The Smiths classic, Strangeways Here We Come, which incidentally is also one of Morrissey, Johnny Marr and David Bowie’s favourite Smiths album.”

Interesting, found out Last Night I Dreamt was Bowie’s favorite Smiths song.
 

Nerak

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The Morrissey bit from Esquire:

There is, I suggest, one more still-living famous name he’s played this year. Morrissey, on The Simpsons.

“That was not Morrissey!”

In the episode Panic on The Streets of Springfield, Lisa becomes besotted by depressed English singer Quilloughby and his band The Snuffs, authors of ‘Hamburger Homicide’, ‘How Late Is Then?’ and ‘Everyone Is Horrid Except Me (And Possibly You)’. Later, she goes to a music festival and finds the bequiffed singer has turned into an overweight bigot.

You do sound a lot like him, and sing a lot like him.

“Oh, thank you,” he says. “I take it as a compliment because I love the way he sings and sounds.”

Morrissey was less keen. His manager issued a sprawling statement, saying, among many other things, that The Simpsons had taken “a turn for the worse”, that showing the singer with his belly hanging out of his shirt (“when he has never looked like that at any point in his career”) was hurtful and asking, of Cumberbatch “Could he be that hard up for cash that he would agree to bad rap another artist that harshly?” saying he should “speak up”. “Does he even have enough balls to do that?”

“No comment,” Cumberbatch says, probably for the best.

 

joe frady

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The what now?

Seconded.

í think í know what nativism is. í definitely know what misogyny is. í've known Morrissey's Saint Anthony H. put-down for 30+ years. í obviously don't have the well-developed synapses to link all three terms. Cos í don't see any such themes in Morrissey's hyperbole. If anything, it's anti-pig...
{Plus, his point still stands, in terms of AHW's effect on Mancmusic}.

If anything, the Sainted Tone's jibe was misogynsistic or 'problematic'. Certainly if he had tweeted that out in 2021, Mr Wilson could quite easily have found himself cancelled as 'transphobic'. There is however no question of reading it as posh-degree-lad, commonplace, gentle, 'banter'... homophobia. And the notion that Morley can't read that, or can't accuse the Holy Tony of such, is laughable. Plus Factory was a factory of misogyny, not especially more so than every other '80s/'90s record company, but a bastion of bastards all the same.

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