Morrissey Central "SOUTH AMERICA" (April 14, 2023)

Morrissey will tour Central and South America during September and October of this year. Full dates will be announced shortly.

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[Deleted member 30063]

Come on, that's what a lot of people here secretly think. They love him dearly, no matter whether it's a diverse person on axe or the stalwart old rockabilly guitarero.

"Come on, a lot of people secretly think it" isn't doing much to defeat the xenophobia allegations.

 

[Phranc & Open]

"Come on, a lot of people secretly think it" isn't doing much to defeat the xenophobia allegations.

From everything I know, also through my acquaintance in Brazil, the adoration and the cult of personality around Morrissey is boundless in South and Latin America. It has a completely different structure than here in Europe. People are proud that he pays his respects in this part of the world. In contrast, how many people here have already thought out loud about returning their tickets to the UK or Ireland because of the Alain Whyte incident? I would argue, that this aspect will play almost no role there.

 

[j*e*t]

At this stage in his career, I was hoping for a more sophisticated and seductive approach to music, which I think would go down well in South America. Instead, recent tours and line-up changes have shown that Morrissey wants to go for a more punky and aggressive-looking stance. Any further in that direction would probably look silly and I'm not sure I'd be following anymore.

 

[Moz Fan]

From everything I know, also through my acquaintance in Brazil, the adoration and the cult of personality around Morrissey is boundless in South and Latin America. It has a completely different structure than here in Europe. People are proud that he pays his respects in this part of the world. In contrast, how many people here have already thought out loud about returning their tickets to the UK or Ireland because of the Alain Whyte incident? I would argue, that this aspect will play almost no role there.

Phranc, you're are generalizing an idea that you have about us, and also basing it solely on the opinion of ONE Brazilian acquaitance.

Of course, most europeans are europeancentrics. Therefore, I don't expect from them much clarity and knowledge about South America and South Americans, apart from the fact that we are still developing countries with all difficulties that that status entail.

However, that doesn't mean we are just acritical backward thirdworlders. We're not. Our self-steem is quite high. Mine is.

We are passionate people. When we love, we love a lot, and respect the object of our love.

Last, but not all least, I trust Morrissey's choices of the music he wants to make, as well as the musicians he feels like working with. It's HIS life and career.

Viva Moz!

Viva all Latin Americans!

 

[Moz Fan]

Phranc, you're are generalizing an idea that you have about us, and also basing it solely on the opinion of ONE Brazilian acquaitance.

Of course, most europeans are europeancentrics. Therefore, I don't expect from them much clarity and knowledge about South America and South Americans, apart from the fact that we are still developing countries with all difficulties that that status entail.

However, that doesn't mean we are just acritical backward thirdworlders. We're not. Our self-steem is quite high. Mine is.

We are passionate people. When we love, we love a lot, and respect the object of our love.

Last, but not all least, I trust Morrissey's choices of the music he wants to make, as well as the musicians he feels like working with. It's HIS life and career.

Viva Moz!

Viva all Latin Americans!

EDIT:
* Self-esteem
** Last, but not at all least

 

[Phranc & Open]

Phranc, you're are generalizing an idea that you have about us, and also basing it solely on the opinion of ONE Brazilian acquaitance.

Of course, most europeans are europeancentrics. Therefore, I don't expect from them much clarity and knowledge about South America and South Americans, apart from the fact that we are still developing countries with all difficulties that that status entail.

However, that doesn't mean we are just acritical backward thirdworlders. We're not. Our self-steem is quite high. Mine is.

We are passionate people. When we love, we love a lot, and respect the object of our love.

Last, but not all least, I trust Morrissey's choices of the music he wants to make, as well as the musicians he feels like working with. It's HIS life and career.

Viva Moz!

Viva all Latin Americans!

I think you are reading too much into my, admittedly very loud, statement. How do you know that Morrissey himself chooses the "right" musicians for touring and not people like Tobias or earlier Boorer? You understand, that there is some irritation concerning Alain Whyte. Do you? He was happy to be back. People here were happy to see a familiar face, from a beloved era again. And now? Does it matter to you or is it just a hypocritical european way to see current events? Is it only Morrissey alone, who matters to you?

 

[Moz Fan]

I think you are reading too much into my, admittedly very loud, statement. How do you know that Morrissey himself chooses the "right" musicians for touring and not people like Tobias or earlier Boorer? You understand, that there is some irritation concerning Alain Whyte. Do you? He was happy to be back. People here were happy to see a familiar face, from a beloved era again. And now? Does it matter to you or is it just a hypocritical european way to see current events? Is it only Morrissey alone, who matters to you?

Of course, I care about the musicians in the band. Each of them play a very important role in the shows, and some of them as songwriting partners. So, yes, I do like Alain Whyte a lot, but I'm not upset he - for reasons we aren't aware of - won't be playing with with the band in the upcoming concerts. Things out of our control happen all the time, so we have to adapt. It's as simples as that.

On the flipside, I'm curious to see how Carmen will fit in. I love the idea of new translations to an existing concept. I'm an existencialist.

Let's wait and see.

 

[Moz Fan]

Of course, I care about the musicians in the band. Each of them play a very important role in the shows, and some of them as songwriting partners. So, yes, I do like Alain Whyte a lot, but I'm not upset he - for reasons we aren't aware of - won't be playing with with the band in the upcoming concerts. Things out of our control happen all the time, so we have to adapt. It's as simples as that.

On the flipside, I'm curious to see how Carmen will fit in. I love the idea of new translations to an existing concept. I'm an existencialist.

Let's wait and see.

Edit:
* Existencialista.

 

[Crisstti]

From everything I know, also through my acquaintance in Brazil, the adoration and the cult of personality around Morrissey is boundless in South and Latin America. It has a completely different structure than here in Europe. People are proud that he pays his respects in this part of the world. In contrast, how many people here have already thought out loud about returning their tickets to the UK or Ireland because of the Alain Whyte incident? I would argue, that this aspect will play almost no role there.

Not many, I would expect. I love Alain but surely almost all people go to a Moz concert because of Moz.

It's natural that a lot of the criticisms aimed at Morrissey in Europe have (happily) no effect here, if this is the kind of thing you're thinking about. A lot of it is very local. Brexit? For Britain? Why would anyone care here? Most people wouldn't even know what that's all about.

I think you are reading too much into my, admittedly very loud, statement. How do you know that Morrissey himself chooses the "right" musicians for touring and not people like Tobias or earlier Boorer? You understand, that there is some irritation concerning Alain Whyte. Do you? He was happy to be back. People here were happy to see a familiar face, from a beloved era again. And now? Does it matter to you or is it just a hypocritical european way to see current events? Is it only Morrissey alone, who matters to you?

And Moz seemed happy to have him back. Yet he's the one who's decided to leave, Morrissey hasn't kicked him out, at least from the little info we have. It might not even be a permanent thing.

Agree Morrissey probably doesn't exactly choose the musicians (he obviously would have to approve). Doesn't seem like he ever has. Johnny Marr back then approached him and I believe he got all the other members as well. Then Street took the initiative to write with him. Alain appears to have actively sought his involvement with Morrissey back in 1991 (and brought the other members) and this time as well...

 

[Deleted member 29227]

Not many, I would expect. I love Alain but surely almost all people go to a Moz concert because of Moz.

It's natural that a lot of the criticisms aimed at Morrissey in Europe have (happily) no effect here, if this is the kind of thing you're thinking about. A lot of it is very local. Brexit? For Britain? Why would anyone care here? Most people wouldn't even know what that's all about.



And Moz seemed happy to have him back. Yet he's the one who's decided to leave, Morrissey hasn't kicked him out, at least from the little info we have.

Agree Morrissey probably doesn't exactly choose the musicians (he obviously would have to approve). Doesn't seem like he ever has. Johnny Marr back then approached him and I believe he got all the other members as well. Then Street took the initiative to write with him. Alain appears to have actively sought his involvement with Morrissey back in 1991 (and brought the other members) and this time as well...

The 'Brexit' thing always makes me laugh, tbh. The people who raise this particular point (laughably, mainly non-UK citizens) & who then try to link it to Moz (looking to support some 'racist' angle) have no clue whatsoever what Brexit was actually about. Even more laughable, Moz said it would never happen because 'the Establishment' wouldn't allow it. Moz, on this occasion, got it wrong; Brexit happened, & it has, or had, nothing to do with 'racism'.

 

[Crisstti]

The 'Brexit' thing always makes me laugh, tbh. The people who raise this particular point (laughably, mainly non-UK citizens) & who then try to link it to Moz (looking the support some 'racist' angle) have no clue whatsoever what Brexit was actually about. Even more laughable, Moz said it would never happen because 'the Establishment' wouldn't allow it. Moz, on this occasion, got it wrong; Brexit happened, & it has, or had, nothing to do with 'racism'.

It sure looked like they did everything they could to stop it though!

 

[Deleted member 29227]

It sure looked like they did everything they could to stop it though!

Well, fortunately, democracy prevailed. Of the people who voted, 52% voted 'For', while 48% voted 'Against'.

 

[🐈🐈🐈]

Well, apparently Costa Rica is the one stop in Central America. I'll be there with my daughter!

Ok. Have a nice time.

 

[Lujan369]

Dios acabo de encender mi ceular y veo gira latinoamericana y en ese momento en el bar donde estoy tomando mi café con tostadas empiezo a tocar Please please please. ¡¡¡¡¡Lo juro!!!!! ¡¡¡¡Jurar!!!!. será una señal??? Por favor famosos díganme si viene Moz a Argentina

 

[Lujan369]

For that fool who says that the "Latinos" only care that Moz sings and the rest of the band is irrelevant I tell them not to be ignorant In my case I want him to come with Alain W and Boaz B !! I love them and Morrissey's best works are made with these two guys. So don't underestimate to people. In Argentina we have many talented people in and out of music!!!!! Long live Argentina Moz and Lujissey Moz venite!!! Moz seria mi first time..

 

[Lujan369]

Phranc, estás generalizando una idea que tienes sobre nosotros, y también basándote únicamente en la opinión de UN conocido brasileño.

Por supuesto, la mayoría de los europeos son europecéntricos. Por lo tanto, no espero de ellos mucha claridad y conocimiento sobre América del Sur y los sudamericanos, aparte de que todavía somos países en desarrollo con todas las dificultades que eso conlleva.

Sin embargo, eso no significa que seamos simples tercermundistas acríticos y atrasados. No eran. Nuestra autoestima es bastante alta. El mio es.

Somos gente apasionada. Cuando amamos, amamos mucho y respetamos el objeto de nuestro amor.

Por último, pero no menos importante, confío en las elecciones de Morrissey sobre la música que quiere hacer, así como en los músicos con los que quiere trabajar. Es SU vida y carrera.

¡Viva Moz!

¡Viva todos los latinoamericanos!

Esaaaaa de acuerdo!!! Parte de la ignorancia de alunos es no conocer .....otros lugares

 

[Lujan369]

It is not the case with Moz, but if he came to sing in Argentina and did it wrong, he would take it as a scam and throw rotten eggs in his face.... We are demanding with artists. Luckily it is not the case of Moz who sings better every day!!!! Viva Latinoamerica Viva Moz Moz a Argentina ya!!!!

 

[Lujan369]

The last time he played there, didn't he end up with a bad dose of the bum gravy?

Yes with Penne Rigate....

 

[DagenhamDan]

At this stage in his career, I was hoping for a more sophisticated and seductive approach to music, which I think would go down well in South America. Instead, recent tours and line-up changes have shown that Morrissey wants to go for a more punky and aggressive-looking stance. Any further in that direction would probably look silly and I'm not sure I'd be following anymore.

I have always thought Morrissey IS a punk, more so in his later years, he doesn't and has never really played the game even to the detriment of his career. And i admire him greatly for that. I cant think of anyone in the 'music business' thats like him

 

[j*e*t]

I have always thought Morrissey IS a punk, more so in his later years, he doesn't and has never really played the game even to the detriment of his career. And i admire him greatly for that. I cant think of anyone in the 'music business' thats like him

I think you're right. I was remembering the videos of the 2012 South American tour, where he looked and sounded in a way that seemed to appeal there. If he can afford it in the years left to him, he should absolutely do the punk thing if that's what he wants. It's just not for me - his appeal lies in an interesting and rebellious character presented in the pleasing vocal, music and appearance that have brought him success in the past. I'm not saying he couldn't succeed in the classic punk genre but that he might not hold on to his existing fanbase if he tried it.