Now that you mention Johnny, it's interesting that The Healers have been viciously slammed here for 3 years. It's because one feels it's so under-achieving and un-ambitious, a feeling of "is that all there is" and "why's someone who's been so original now slumming it as a 2nd rate follower of Britpop"? And there as well Johnny Marr is a limited vocalist. Johnny has the right idea starting a band from scratch but IMO he should bring in a good female singer (female singers go well with his music). Yet, if Alain Whyte had done "Caught Up" (I use that song because it's a simple, unpretentious pop song) people on here would be saying how beautifully played and infectious it is. There's a higher standard for Marr than for Alain. With Alain it's like if your 17 year old cousin is fooling around in the garage on his first band and his family members wanna be supportive and encouraging. That's fine, but this is a public forum and not all of us are so nice. But then I've not been as mean as Pimp and WhyteGirl were to Jesse Tobias a few months back.