Sorry Doesn't Help
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Zinc Alloy
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I love it, it's not the best song on the album but I think it would make the best next single.
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I think its a great track - liked it the first i heard it
King Leer
Leering since '97
Rather than anything negative I found the first couple of listenings almost "invisible" but it's really grown on me. Love the retro Sparks-style keyboards and the guitar line (the chord changes are boring, though).
In the Future still pips it for me but I think Jesse is improving as a songwriter after all (said while Jamie's out of the room).
It's still one of the weaker tracks on the album, but that just shows its a much stronger record than the last two.
In the Future still pips it for me but I think Jesse is improving as a songwriter after all (said while Jamie's out of the room).
It's still one of the weaker tracks on the album, but that just shows its a much stronger record than the last two.
PregnantForTheLastTime
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It's not as immediately dramatic as some of the new ones, but it really appeals to me for reasons I cannot describe. It's the lyrics, I'm totally taken in by the story.
It's not as immediately dramatic as some of the new ones, but it really appeals to me for reasons I cannot describe. It's the lyrics, I'm totally taken in by the story.
Skinner
RIP The Rev
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It's my #1 favorite song on the album. It doesn't rock as hard as "I'm Ok..." but I love the crap out of it! The organ is unexpected and I think it works so well on that track. Lines like "You lie about the lies that you've told, which is the full extent of what being you is all about", blow me away. I don't know how he thinks of these things.
Vocally I think it's a stunning song. Every time he hits the long note on "us" I get chills. And musically the song is 100% rock solid.
I F-ING LOVE THIS SONG!!!!!!!
It's my #1 favorite song on the album. It doesn't rock as hard as "I'm Ok..." but I love the crap out of it! The organ is unexpected and I think it works so well on that track. Lines like "You lie about the lies that you've told, which is the full extent of what being you is all about", blow me away. I don't know how he thinks of these things.
Vocally I think it's a stunning song. Every time he hits the long note on "us" I get chills. And musically the song is 100% rock solid.
I F-ING LOVE THIS SONG!!!!!!!
theneverplayedsymphony
The World's Forgotten Boy
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Although it's not my favourite song on the album, it's very good. It reminds me of old Moz, back in the days. The rest of the album sort of cuts himself off from old Moz to me, which is upsetting. Listening to one or two of them, I can't help but think "No more LOTFIP or Everyday Is Like Sunday or even I Have Forgiven Jesus." But with that, it makes me think there could be. It's nice!
Although it's not my favourite song on the album, it's very good. It reminds me of old Moz, back in the days. The rest of the album sort of cuts himself off from old Moz to me, which is upsetting. Listening to one or two of them, I can't help but think "No more LOTFIP or Everyday Is Like Sunday or even I Have Forgiven Jesus." But with that, it makes me think there could be. It's nice!
PregnantForTheLastTime
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A CQ is some type of lawyer or attorney.
What was the lie? I must know.
A CQ is some type of lawyer or attorney.
What was the lie? I must know.
Explosive Kegs
Dear God, I LOVE IT!
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What day's are them?
Although it's not my favourite song on the album, it's very good. It reminds me of old Moz, back in the day's. The rest of the album sort of cuts himself off from old Moz to me, which is upsetting. Listening to one or two of them, I can't help but think "No more LOTFIP or Everyday Is Like Sunday or even I Have Forgiven Jesus." But with that, it makes me think there could be. It's nice!
What day's are them?
theneverplayedsymphony
The World's Forgotten Boy
Explosive Kegs
Dear God, I LOVE IT!
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I'm with you now. I was still at school then But they were good days, sometimes
Sorry, meant to say the good old days!
I'm with you now. I was still at school then
But they were good days, sometimes
PregnantForTheLastTime
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and sorry will not bring my teen years back to me (any time soon)
Forced back, it springs right out
sorry will not bring my love into my arms (as far as I know…)
sorry doesn’t help us
sorry will not save us
sorry won’t undo all the good gone wrong
"Forced back, it springs right out" is such a sensual detail. It makes the truth a tangible thing, which could also be an allusion to the nature of the lie.
The qualifying "any time soon" and "as far as I know" are classic Morrissey in that they play both sides of the coin. Nothing is ever definite--"I'm not happy and I'm not sad."
"Sorry doesn't help us, sorry will not save us" echo Jeane, to me. And "sorry won't undo all the good gone wrong" immediately makes me think of "what can make GOOD all the BAD that's been done?" in November Spawned a Monster.
and sorry will not bring my teen years back to me (any time soon)
Forced back, it springs right out
sorry will not bring my love into my arms (as far as I know…)
sorry doesn’t help us
sorry will not save us
sorry won’t undo all the good gone wrong
"Forced back, it springs right out" is such a sensual detail. It makes the truth a tangible thing, which could also be an allusion to the nature of the lie.
The qualifying "any time soon" and "as far as I know" are classic Morrissey in that they play both sides of the coin. Nothing is ever definite--"I'm not happy and I'm not sad."
"Sorry doesn't help us, sorry will not save us" echo Jeane, to me. And "sorry won't undo all the good gone wrong" immediately makes me think of "what can make GOOD all the BAD that's been done?" in November Spawned a Monster.
PregnantForTheLastTime
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Worm
Taste the diffidence
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You think it's about a man's attempt to perform his own sex change on the cheap, then?
Or forgiveness-- remember that he said he'd forgiven his enemies on the "There's A Place In Hell" track on "Kill Uncle" but in the live version he says he won't. Oh Morrissey, you devil!
By the way, who would possibly expect forgiveness from Morrissey? We're talking about a man who needed about 45 years to work up the strength of heart to forgive Jesus Christ. Mere mortals needn't hold their breath.
You think it's about a man's attempt to perform his own sex change on the cheap, then?
Or forgiveness-- remember that he said he'd forgiven his enemies on the "There's A Place In Hell" track on "Kill Uncle" but in the live version he says he won't. Oh Morrissey, you devil!
By the way, who would possibly expect forgiveness from Morrissey? We're talking about a man who needed about 45 years to work up the strength of heart to forgive Jesus Christ. Mere mortals needn't hold their breath.
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