Smashing Pumpkins Member Reveals Why Morrissey Lost ‘Grandeur’ Of Smiths - Alternative Nation

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  1. Famous when dead

    Famous when dead Vulgarian

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    Smashing Pumpkins Member Reveals Why Morrissey Lost ‘Grandeur’ Of Smiths - Alternative Nation

    Mr. Chamberlin (drummer) offers an explanation of sorts...

    “We knew how we wanted to make ourselves feel. That’s a great reference point, I think Mike Joyce and the way he played with the Smiths, was just an incredible inspiration to me, just because of the sensitivity and power that he played with, and the grandeur that he played with, that I think Morrissey was never able to capture later. Those early Smiths records were face melting, just in the production. Nirvana was kind of the punk rock version of that.”


    The brief article then segues in to a recap of recent live events with no real attempt at cogency.
    Not the best of writing.
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    1. Anonymous
      What an odd article. Doesn't Peter Katsis manage the Smashing Pumpkins as well as Morrissey now?
    2. Quando quando quando
      Quando quando quando
      "Not the best of writing".
      Ha, you are too kind!
      You mean it's shit.
      And, one drummer of a mediocre band praising another drummer of a good band but at the same time saying Moz lost HIS grandeur. What do THEY know about grandeur? Some drummers with grandeur in popmusic were Keith Moon and Ginger Baker. They are nowhere near.
      If anyone has grandeur in popmusic it is Moz.
      You have it, or you don't.
      Those 2 drummers don't.

      Of course, the machine wouldn't function without those very integral parts.
      Very useful parts of the machine and that machine could be a much more complex and important apparatus then a lawnmower but not entirely unreplaceble.
      The idea that 4 members of a group are fairly equal is a nice idea but as everybody knows, Johnny Marr and Moz could not be replaced. The other two members could.
      Not saying I like it, but there it is.
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    3. butley
      Those that do are judged by those who tried and found they couldn't do.
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    4. lanterns
      what should the grand oak tree care about every bristled pig rubbing against it
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    5. Anonymous
      Didn't Joyce play on a bona drag song. Was grandeur repeated. That's a weird piece. Seems kinda all over the place but yes he does rep smashing pumpkins
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    6. Quando quando quando
      Quando quando quando
      Sister, I Am A Poet?
      Talking about grandeur!
      In more then one way cause grandeur didn't keep him away from his fans.
      He embraced them! And still managed to deliver the song. ;)
    7. Anonymous
      Well grandeur, or lack of it at least, didnt keep him away from fans or the charts for that matter. I don't wanna turn the thread to Joyce bashing but it's a weird quality to attribute to his playing. Same with the production on early albums being face melting. I don't think I've ever heard anyone make similar claims. I wouldn't read to much into them both being represented by peter though. If he was gonna manufacture a quote for promo I doubt it'd be one that talked about the smiths and least of all one that mentions Joyce. A topic most fans I think have heard enough of
    8. Anonymous
      Jimmy Chamberlin is one of the best rockdrummers ever and can look back on a very succesful career, so I don't get the comments that he's a nobody who doesn't know what he's talking about. I for one find it refreshing to hear this insight from one top musician about another, although for me the real unsung hero of The Smiths will always be Andy.
    9. Anonymous
      Yes , and Matt Walker replaced Jimmy Chamberlain in the Smashing Pumpkins for a time in the 90's when Jimmy was fired for drug abuse. Matt is a great fit for Morrissey IMHO.
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    11. Anonymous
      Exactly! I don't ageee with his quote, but to attack his credibility is laughable. He's an amazing talented drummer, so I'm not sure what people are getting at.
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    12. Sarcasmos
      Yeah, he's even in the music video for Last of The Famous
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    13. Anonymous
      Where are people putting down chamberlain. I don't see it
    14. Anonymous
      There is no such thing as bad publicity? Just tell us he has a new deal
    15. ninetimesfined
      I've never really been attuned to The Drums in any sense. I mean no offence by that - purcussion to me is simply... there.
      Saying that, the drumming on the Island released Sparks records by Dinky Diamond goes beyond simple pircussion and becomes a towering, dramatic wall of opera.
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    16. Harsh Truth
      Harsh Truth
      I loathe the Smashing Pumpkins.
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    17. Famous when dead
      Famous when dead
      Personally, I think the Strangeways drum machine doesn't get enough credit ;)
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    18. Anonymous
      Post 2, 3, and 4.
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