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For less than 10 cents a day, you can help sacked artists like Stephen, Alain, Spencer, & Kristeen...
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Has the Jew boy and fired in a parking lot stories ever been validated or is it just rumors?
Mozza220559
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This is hilarious and most probably very accurate.
Detritus
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I'm not sure of the "fired in a parking lot" incident, but with regards to the "Jew boy" comment: one of Cobrin's songwriting partners claims that it really happened (see: this interview). I don't see what he has to gain from fabricating such a story, but I suppose unless someone actually produces the alleged fax, it can't ever really be "proven". That said, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it were true, especially considering some of the problematic remarks about Jews in Autobiography or Morrissey's comment in Loaded Magazine about areas of England being a "multicultural New Jerusalem". He isn't particularly PC, to put it mildly, and lord knows when things don't go his way he can get nasty...
Also: thanks for the laugh, Viva.
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Please elaborate on both stories.
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Alain showed up to record his songs with the band on 'Years of Refusal'. Morrissey didn't want him involved in the sessions or allowed into the studio so he sent Boz out into the parking lot of Conway Studios to break the news to Alain. After that, Alain decided to no longer compose for Morrissey.
Morrissey fired Gary Day for the first time in the early 90s. In retaliation, Gary carved "Die Wanker" on Morrissey's front door.
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Yes, he hates Jews so much, the Israel flag was on the drum kit at the 2012 Manchester gig, where he stated how proud he was to have received the keys to the city of Tel Aviv.
There is actually proof of this, unlike most of what was stated above, but please do go on, if that makes you happy.
emmanuela_7
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That's surprising considering that he received the keys to Tel Aviv and everything. What were the problematic remarks about Jews in Autobiography? I didn't see any but I might have missed them.
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Something about Geoff Travis and Patt Bellis (of Rough Trade, both Jewish) plotting against Morrissey in way that way that was typical of that "belligerent tribe from Palestine". That's from memory, scuse me if I've quoted slightly wrong.
Detritus
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I haven't seen this mentioned in any discussions of the book that I've come across, so it seems like a lot of people either didn't notice, overlooked it, or didn't think much of it. But as I was reading, both passages immediately left a bad taste in my mouth. First, on pg. 208 (of the Penguin softcover):
"'This is a great single and if you don’t make this statement then we’re all in a mess and you’ll never be trusted on radio again,’ says Pat – her lipstick under no doubts whatsoever. I am already formulating semi-acceptable dribble in my head, wondering how I can squeeze in the term ‘conscious borrowing’ in an effort to ease the entire nation and rid the world forevermore of emphysema. I feel slightly queasy. I have been done over by an aggressive tribe from Palestine and I don’t know what to do."
And on pg. 268:
"It was true that the art of getting money and acknowledging no superior was the rock on which the black hands of Handsoff had built his empire, and I was gooey putty against his Israelites. His was a mediocre way to spend a life, but it provided yachts a-plenty for his big-eyed militia."
I really don't know how he could have written the passages quoted above without realizing how they would come across. I don't presume to know that Morrissey "hates Jews," and it wasn't my intention to suggest such a thing. I just wanted to point out that he has a history of making insensitive and controversial remarks (especially regarding race and cultural identity) and that it's often difficult to tell 1). how much of what he says he actually believes, and 2). whether or not he's merely being politically incorrect and just trying to shit stir. Either way, with this in mind, stories like the Spencer fax incident aren't difficult for me to believe.
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He didn't receive the keys to Tel Aviv in recognition of his tireless campaigning against racism and oppression, though, did he?
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Anonymous
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With the enemies this man has made I'm surprised more people haven't defaced his property.
I believe it was Kristy Maccoll who had said she was shocked people he had dated hadn't come forward to the press, as he had treated past lovers horribly when the relationship ended.
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This is f***ing GOLDEN.
CrystalGeezer
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Do you troll Elton John on his message board this aggressively? I mean, he is a f***** and all.
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"(...) A man who, try as he may, is not capable of so much as a hateful glance beyond the barbecue."
with this CH quote, I salute you. I also salute PETAfans who may have inadvertently read my posts these past few days, these had of course nothing to do with PETAfans and current Business. Which is None Of Ours.
(Thanks for the certificate, Viva. Much appreciated.
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see ya not around soon!
with this CH quote, I salute you. I also salute PETAfans who may have inadvertently read my posts these past few days, these had of course nothing to do with PETAfans and current Business. Which is None Of Ours.
(Thanks for the certificate, Viva. Much appreciated.
)see ya not around soon!
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I'm a platinum member of the Rocket Club. This is why I get DVDs.
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