Luxo
Luxo by name, Fuxo by nature
Lol she's just an awful writer and not very clever. I feel bad her, truly.
Russell Brand
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Lol she's just an awful writer and not very clever. I feel bad her, truly.
goinghome
you must not tamper with arrangements
Do you think that just as some victims may be deemed more 'worthy' than others, same goes for those accused? Are there overlaps with the way IMF chief candidate Strauss Kahn was likely framed and smeared and decommissioned? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_v._Strauss-Kahn
I bet that Sky interview with Sachs' grand-daughter meant a lot. Fiona's piece is excellent. Even those who don't cut him much slack are criticising the rush to judgement.
The media investigation admits having to interview hundreds of people Brand liaised with before getting a few to talk. Were they induced to divulge i.e. were they paid? If they were paid, they'd probably agree to change a few words here and there. Or how does that work? What about another way?
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Do you think that just as some victims may be deemed more 'worthy' than others, same goes for those accused? Are there overlaps with the way IMF chief candidate Strauss Kahn was likely framed and smeared and decommissioned? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_v._Strauss-Kahn
I bet that Sky interview with Sachs' grand-daughter meant a lot. Fiona's piece is excellent. Even those who don't cut him much slack are criticising the rush to judgement.
The media investigation admits having to interview hundreds of people Brand liaised with before getting a few to talk. Were they induced to divulge i.e. were they paid? If they were paid, they'd probably agree to change a few words here and there. Or how does that work? What about another way?
Book Review: We Will Not Cancel Us
Review of the booklet We Will Not Cancel Us - And Other Dreams of Transformative Justice by adrienne maree brown.
They only knew who to approach because women were talking about it so much & creating lists of predatory men. Some of the lists were unbelievably libellous - & anyone with access to it could add a name & their accusation & it would be passed around without any fact checking at all.
In theory men were not allowed to see most of the lists - but obviously everyone was getting their friends to check if their name was on it.
Brand was one of the biggest UK names who had a LOT of accusations against his name. They haven't been able to verify that much - but - it does sound as if one has kept some quite serious receipts.
It could fizzle out or he could be jailed - it all depends.
bhops
Last of the famous international screw ups.
I kinda feel in a roundabout way this is particularly part of the vector of attack against Brand. They know he has a deal with Rumble, they know Rumble won't back down, the whole thing works perfectly as a wraparound smear.
At this point, as distasteful as you may find Brand's actions, and even if you believe the word of the accusers he has at this particular point of time not been found guilty in any court of law for the offences alleged of him and you have the UK govt virtually demanding a private company demonetize him.
The west is entering into it's Stasi state phase.
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For the record, I completely disagree with what the MP did, it was outrageous. I support Rumble's right to run their business as they see fit.
bhops
Last of the famous international screw ups.
Was it when she was SoS or in a private capacity?
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The thing people need to understand about the Clintons is that they are never in a private capacity, they are extremely powerful whether they are in office or not.
The article came out in 2017, so Hillary could have been a candidate at the time, depending on when this investigation started. She was warned during her 2016 campaign by Lena Dunham and Tina Brown to distance herself from Weinstein, who was or is a very good friend of hers. The Clintons were close friends with him for a long time.
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I do think Morrissey's writing skills have declined and I have also thought for a while that he is heavily involved in what she writes. In this instance. there is no way she would write about one of his friends without discussing it with him and he would obviously have a lot of input. He has fallen so low, it's hard to watch. He is bitter and paranoid and it's just really hard to believe he has aligned himself with someone like Fiona Dodwell. She can't write, she can't spell, she seems completely uneducated and uncultured. Hard to imagine that friendship. What did she say about his manager?
gashonthenail
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The letter from the MPs was disgraceful. It's clear though what is going on - Elon Musk was spot on. No need to search for some grand conspiracy. What we are seeing being played out here is a battle between old media and new media. Old media is dying. No one reads them. No one watches them. This is their attempt to still seem relevant. But they have clearly tried too hard with Brand and made their career assassination intentions a bit too obvious. It's all gone really quiet because they realise people can recognise a witch hunt when they see it. People aren't stupid - which is why the reading figures and the viewing figures for old media are so low, and only going in one direction.
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Dannii Minogue thought Russell Brand was a “vile predator” who “wouldn’t take no for an answer” when they met in 2006.
“He is completely crazy and a bit of a vile predator,” Minogue told the Mirror after being interviewed by Brand on his MTV chatshow, 1 Leicester Square back in 2006.
“I certainly don’t think he has cured his sex addiction, that’s for sure. He wouldn’t take no for an answer. [...] He always goes that step too far.
“He is completely crazy and a bit of a vile predator,” Minogue told the Mirror after being interviewed by Brand on his MTV chatshow, 1 Leicester Square back in 2006.
“I certainly don’t think he has cured his sex addiction, that’s for sure. He wouldn’t take no for an answer. [...] He always goes that step too far.
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Having worked in the criminal justice system myself, managing these types of cases, I have no time for people on social media thinking they have the ultimate “gotcha” by asking, “If this really happened, why didn’t they report to the police?”
Here’s just one possible answer: Because it can be a terrifying, intrusive process which often results in no further action – just further trauma. Of course, we would always encourage women to report it and not to let their attacker get away with it. But we can’t ignore the fact that so many women say that reporting and giving evidence about sexual violence was worse than the sexual violence itself.
And isn’t it interesting that the same people asking why they didn’t report it are the ones claiming they must be lying? It’s almost as if those things are connected....
www.independent.co.uk
Here’s just one possible answer: Because it can be a terrifying, intrusive process which often results in no further action – just further trauma. Of course, we would always encourage women to report it and not to let their attacker get away with it. But we can’t ignore the fact that so many women say that reporting and giving evidence about sexual violence was worse than the sexual violence itself.
And isn’t it interesting that the same people asking why they didn’t report it are the ones claiming they must be lying? It’s almost as if those things are connected....
This is why Russell Brand’s accusers are only talking about it now | Jessica Taylor
Why now, ask the doubters. For many reasons, says psychologist Dr Jessica Taylor – and it’s got nothing to do with fame or money
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Your visceral hatred for a woman you don't know and who has never done anything to you is bizarre to say the least. You don't know Morrissey either. Stop projecting your shortcomings onto other people. Seriously, get help.
gashonthenail
You will own nothing and you will be happy...
The people making the allegations should indeed be taken seriously, be listened to, be heard.
But they shouldn't be used in a clear attempt by the media to 'get' Brand. Those making allegations deserve better than that.
But they shouldn't be used in a clear attempt by the media to 'get' Brand. Those making allegations deserve better than that.
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I think most of us can see why Moz liked Russell Brand. In a world of cavaliers and roundheads, bohemians and bourgeoisie, Dionysus and Apollo, rock'n rollers and sunday schoolers, Moz is clearly attracted to the likes of Wilde, and the Beats, and Lou Reed, and Iggy Pop, and The New York Dolls. Aren't we all, really? Or why else would we be here on a Morrissey fansite? I feel sorry for Brand. Society loves a 'bad boy' - so he gave them what they wanted. Now he's found a new life based on meditation and veganism, rather than being a bad boy, but now the past is coming back to bite him. There are few 'stars' and 'celebrities' who would survive the likes of Channel 4 and The Sunday Times raking through their past. Would we like them so much if they were 'good'? Don't be so hasty to judge another human being. They will cancel everyone 'wild' in the end. Until we all behave and do as we're told.
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Yes.
Russell Brand is not the worst of the crop. There are worse sex offenders and many dirty bastards rattling around, and plenty of men getting away with far more violation. Brand has cleaned up his act today. I must add that 'bad boys' are dying, but I'd say there are an increasing number of perverse dirty rats and p**n addicts.
He has said he was a hard puller and an addict. Addicts don't do things by halves, they go the full extreme, and explains the switch to heavy meditation, veganism - he has to go big or go home. He also strikes me as the kind of person who keeps up with trends to remain relevant. YouTube is the current immediate reality tv.
I think Moz took him under his wing and looks out for him, so why should Morrissey be responsible for the actions of a friend? It doesn't make sense, friends aren't full reflections or doubles of who you are. They may get on for reasons that aren't obvious and they can't agree on everything.
