Ringleader; your final verdict...

Man Afraid

Member
My final verdict is thar ROTT is a very good album with a few notable track on it, namely Life is a pigsty and Dear god please help me
 

Walkers Crisp

Nobody's Nothing
Here's my vote...

I Will See You in Far-off Places - 9
Dear God, Please Help Me - 5
You Have Killed Me - 8
The Youngest Was the Most Loved - 5
In the Future When All's Well - 7
The Father Who Must Be Killed - 9
Life is a Pigsty - 7
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now - 4
On the Streets I Ran - 10
To Me You Are a Work of Art - 10
I Just Want to See the Boy Happy - 6
At Last I Am Born - 6
*
Good Looking Man About Town - 8
I Knew I Was Next - 7
Human Being - 6
If You Don't Like Me, Don't Look at Me - 10
Ganglord - 10
A Song from Under the Floorboards - 9
Christian Dior - 2
Sweetie Pie - 10

Average album rating: 7.2
Average b-side rating: 7.8
Average overall rating: 7.5


Yes, I adore "Sweetie Pie"...:o
"Quarry" was the better album in my view, but the "ROTT" had the better B sides.
 

Harsh Truth

Ever Felt Had?
I Will See You In Far-off Places 3
Dear God Please Help Me 3
You Have Killed Me 9
The Youngest Was The Most Loved 9
In The Future When All's Well 7
The Father Who Must Be Killed 2
Life Is A Pigsty 6
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now 6
On The Streets I Ran 7
To Me You Are A Work Of Art 5
I Just Want To See The Boy Happy 8
At Last I Am Born 5
 

SRA

the queen is still ill
Moderator
I Will See You In Far Off Places - 8
Dear God, Please Help Me - 7
You Have Killed Me - 8
The Youngest Was The Most Loved - 6
In The Future When Alls Well - 8
The Father Who Must Be Killed - 7
Life Is A Pigsty - 9
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now - 7
On The Streets I Ran - 5
To Me You Are A Work Of Art - 6
I Just Want To See The Boy Happy - 7
At Last I Am Born - 5

*Good Looking Man About Town - 6
*I Knew I Was Next - 7
*Ganglord - 8
*If You Dont Like Me, Dont Look At Me - 7
*Christian Dior - 7
*Sweetie Pie - 6
*Human Being - 6
*A Song From Under The Floorboards - 6

ROTT A-Side average: 7
ROTT B-Side 7
Overall ROTT experience (oh yes) 7

Straddling the fence there then!
 
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half a person

Active Member
"I Will See You In Far-off Places" 6
"Dear God Please Help Me" 5
"You Have Killed Me" 9
"The Youngest Was The Most Loved" 5
"In The Future When All's Well" 9
"The Father Who Must Be Killed" 6
"Life Is A Pigsty" 10
"I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now" 9
"On The Streets I Ran" 3
"To Me You Are A Work Of Art" 7
"I Just Want To See The Boy Happy" 9
"At Last I Am Born" 7
average score: 7.83

I quite like it really :)
 

Chartres

New Member
I Will See You In Far Off Places 7
Dear God Please Help Me 6
You Have Killed Me 7
The Youngest Was The Most Loved 4
In The Future When All's Well 4
The Father Who Must Be Killed 3
Life Is A Pigsty 6
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now 6
On The Streets I Ran 4
To Me You Are A Work Of Art 5
I Just Want To See The Boy Happy 6
At Last I Am Born 3

61 points out of 120
Barely average: 5.08

Human Being 9
Good Looking Man About Town 7
I Knew I Was Next 7
If You Don't Like Me, Don't Look At Me 7
A Song From Under The Floorboards 7
Ganglord 7
Christian Dior 7
Sweetie-Pie 5

56 points out of 80
Really good. 7.00

Totally 117 out of 200 points for the whole session.
Average: 5.85
Without the excellent covers:
Average: 5.61
 

vicarinatutugal

can't reMember
I Will See You in Far-off Places - 8
Dear God, Please Help Me - 7
You Have Killed Me - 7
The Youngest Was the Most Loved - 7
In the Future When All's Well - 5
The Father Who Must Be Killed - 7
Life is a Pigsty - 10
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now - 5
On the Streets I Ran - 6
To Me You Are a Work of Art - 6
I Just Want to See the Boy Happy - 5
At Last I Am Born - 5

b sides
Good Looking Man About Town - 9
I Knew I Was Next - 6
Human Being - 6
If You Don't Like Me, Don't Look at Me - 7
Ganglord - 6
A Song from Under the Floorboards - 8
Christian Dior - 6
Sweetie Pie - 4
 

Chartres

New Member
As kuipie said, it's adictive.

America is Not the World - 5
Irish Blood, English Heart - 6
I Have Forgiven Jesus - 10
Come Back to Camden - 10
I'm Not Sorry - 8
The World is Full of Crashing Bores - 6
How Could Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel? - 5
First of the Gang to Die - 6
Let Me Kiss You - 8
All the Lazy Dykes - 8
I Like You - 8
You Know I Couldn't Last - 6

86 out of 129
Really good: 7.16

It's Hard to Walk Tall When You're Small - 6
Munich Air Disaster 1958 - 9
The Never-Played Symphonies - 7
My Life is a Succession of People Saying Goodbye - 8
Teenage Dad on His Estate - 7
Mexico - 7
Don't Make Fun of Daddy's Voice - 6
Friday Mourning - 8
I Am Two People - 5
No One Can Hold a Candle to You - 9
The Public Image - 9
The Slum Mums - 7

88 out of 120
Really Good. 7.33

Totally for the whole session:
174 out of 240 points
Really good: 7.25
 

I am a Ghost

New Member
I Will See You in Far-off Places - 8
Dear God, Please Help Me - 8
You Have Killed Me - 8
The Youngest Was the Most Loved - 9
In the Future When All's Well - 9
The Father Who Must Be Killed - 9
Life is a Pigsty - 10
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now - 10
On the Streets I Ran - 10
To Me You Are a Work of Art - 9
I Just Want to See the Boy Happy - 9
At Last I Am Born - 7
*
Good Looking Man About Town - 5
I Knew I Was Next - 5
Human Being - 8
If You Don't Like Me, Don't Look at Me - 7
Ganglord - 10
A Song from Under the Floorboards - 9
Christian Dior - 9
Sweetie Pie - 8

Average album rating: 8.8
Average b-side rating: 7.6

Average overall rating: 8.2

A top 3 Morrissey album, imho, along with "Arsenal" and "Vauxhall".
 

mozmal

Beastly Little Parasite
I will see you in far-off places 7
Dear God Please Help Me 9
You Have Killed Me 7
The Youngest Was The Most Loved 7
In The Future When Alls Well 6
The Father Who Must Be Killed 5
Life Is A Pigsty 7
Ill Never Be Anybodys Hero Now 7
On The Streets I Ran 5
To Me You Are A Work Of Art 8
I Just Want To See The Boy Happy 7
At Last I Am Born 5

Overall it's an average album, but when your standards are so high, it's impossible to keep churning out masterpieces. At Last I Am Born is Usually skipped by me, I'm afraid. Dear God Please help Me is for me, the stand-out song on the album. Cheers :D
 
"I Will See You In Far-off Places" 5
"Dear God Please Help Me" 5
"You Have Killed Me" 9
"The Youngest Was The Most Loved" 5
"In The Future When All's Well" 7
"The Father Who Must Be Killed" 2
"Life Is A Pigsty" 9
"I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now" 5
"On The Streets I Ran" 10
"To Me You Are A Work Of Art" 4
"I Just Want To See The Boy Happy" 6
"At Last I Am Born" 4
average score: 7/10
 

left out

New Member
I Will See You in Far-off Places - 9
Dear God, Please Help Me - 9
You Have Killed Me - 8
The Youngest Was the Most Loved - 7
In the Future When All's Well - 6
The Father Who Must Be Killed - 4
Life is a Pigsty - 10
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now - 7
On the Streets I Ran - 4
To Me You Are a Work of Art - 7
I Just Want to See the Boy Happy - 7
At Last I Am Born - 8
*
Ganglord - 8

Christian Dior - 3
Sweetie Pie - 5


A mixture. Some songs have grown on me, others it depends on my mood what I want to listen to.

Maybe in a few years' time distance and the (hoped for) following album will put things into perspective.
 

dicartwright

Active Member
Here are my scores:
"I Will See You In Far-off Places" 9
"Dear God Please Help Me" 9
"You Have Killed Me" 7
"The Youngest Was The Most Loved" 1
"In The Future When All's Well" 7
"The Father Who Must Be Killed" 2
"Life Is A Pigsty" 10 :D
"I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now" 10
"On The Streets I Ran" 2
"To Me You Are A Work Of Art" 5
"I Just Want To See The Boy Happy" 2
"At Last I Am Born" 1
average score: 5/10

Good Looking Man About Town - 10
I Knew I Was Next - 10
Human Being - 8
If You Don't Like Me, Don't Look at Me - 6
Ganglord - 6
A Song from Under the Floorboards - 9
Christian Dior - 3
Sweetie Pie - 8
 
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Roma De Moz

Fat Children Took My Life
  • I Will See You In Far Off Places - 6
  • Dear God, Please Help Me - 9
  • You Have Killed Me - 5
  • The Youngest Was The Most Loved - 7
  • In The Future When All's Well - 5
  • The Father Who Must Be Killed - 4
  • Life Is A Pigsty - 9
  • I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now - 6
  • On The Streets I Ran - 6
  • To Me You Are A Work Of Art - 6
  • I Just Want To See The Boy Happy - 6
  • At Last I Am Born - 6

Overall, Ringleader is an album which has to few truly great songs to be considered a masterpiece, but it has enough moments of greatness to pull through just above average, but only just. It' doesn't slip anywhere near under the bar as Kill Uncle, but it probably ties with Maladjusted.
 
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Kuiper

Better than Marr
As kuipie said, it's adictive.

Thanks for reminding me, Chartres. :mad: Now I have to rate Viva Hate. :p ;)

Alsatian Cousin - 10
Little Man, What Now? - 9
Everyday is Like Sunday - 10
Bengali in Platforms - 8
Angel, Angel, Down We Go Together - 10
Late Night, Maudlin Street - 10
Suedehead - 9
Break Up the Family - 8
The Ordinary Boys - 9
I Don't Mind if You Forget Me - 8
Dial-a-Cliché - 9
Margaret on the Guillotine - 7
*
I Know Very Well How I Got My Name - 8
Hairdresser on Fire - 10
Oh Well, I'll Never Learn - 7
Disappointed - 10
Sister, I'm a Poet - 9
Will Never Marry - 10

Average album rating: 8.1
Average b-side rating: 9
Average overall rating: 8.4
 
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westendgirl

Active Member
Oooo! I love this album!

Alsatian Cousin - 10
Little Man, What Now? - 9
Everyday is Like Sunday - 10
Bengali in Platforms - 8
Angel, Angel, Down We Go Together - 10
Late Night, Maudlin Street - 10++++(I love this song!!!)
Suedehead - 9
Break Up the Family - 8
I Don't Mind if You Forget Me - 8.5
Dial-a-Cliché - 9.5
Margaret on the Guillotine - 7
*
I Know Very Well How I Got My Name-8
Hairdresser on Fire - 10
Oh Well I'll Never Learn-7.5
Disappointed - 10
Sister, I'm a Poet - 9
Will Never Marry - 10
 
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westendgirl

Active Member
^^Do you not have I Know Very Well and Oh Well? I can upload those for you if you wish.

NO I don't. Thanks Kuiper, I'd love that very much! That's the only thing that really really sucks in being somewhat new to Moz....so much to collect and catch up with..I don't mind though:p
 
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