Revisiting "Your Arsenal" 27 Years On - New Article on Eject Music by Fiona Dodwell

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Anonymous, Jul 26, 2019.

By Anonymous on Jul 26, 2019 at 1:47 PM
  1. Anonymous

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    New Article about Moz and his career in the early 90s. Nice to read something actually positive.

    Memories of Morrissey: Revisiting 'Your Arsenal' as it Turns 27 - Eject Music
    As Morrissey's album, Your Arsenal, turns 27 this week, Fiona Dodwell takes a look at the album and the 1992 era of the music legend's career.
    by Fiona Dodwell
     
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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Anonymous, Jul 26, 2019.

    1. StalinsPipe
      StalinsPipe
      Like I said in a previous comment, I, and I imagine some others, don't dislike her because she defends Morrissey, but simply because is an extremely poor writer, who seems to know very little about the actual music, as I illustrated in her complete lack of basic knowledge about the writing, production and history of Your Arsenal. Fiona is simply a yes man who, as far as I can see, isn't particularly interested in the music, but more interested in being a non-critical mouthpiece for Morrissey simply to further her own career. Without the publicity she has gained from her new role as Morrissey's pseudo-ultra-fan she would remain a very, very poor journalist, who can't carry out basic research and a very, very poor horror author.

      As for Sam, he does it because he is Morrissey's doting nephew, which we can't blame him for. I expect he has idolised his uncle for his entire life, so I'm not surprised he is defending his uncle at a trying time. However, like Fiona, Sam simply makes Morrissey looks worse than he does so himself. He just serves as an uncritical yes man, while pushing Morrissey to make some poor artistic decisions (those horrid Photoshop hack jobs, horrid record artworks and THAT horrid video for Kiss Me A Lot). Also like Fiona, this has helped raise Sam's profile and put some attention on his frankly dull, amateurish photography.

      Morrissey used to be surrounded by wonderful artists and genuinely interesting people. He's alienated himself so much that his best friends are his nephew and a fake, entryist Morrissey fan.
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    2. reelfountain
      reelfountain
      Johnny Marr said the musical direction he would've taken had the Smiths not split would have been similar to the sound of 'Unhappy Birthday'. This is quite an acoustic sound along the lines of 'Stretch Out and Wait' or 'Half a Person' with a few electric guitar effects added in the mix for atmospherics and a clear audible bass. That would have been wonderful. And I think it's what Morrissey needs now. A quieter sound with rich flowing chords to emphasize the voice he clearly still has.
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    3. StalinsPipe
      StalinsPipe
      Absolutely. Much of Morrissey's music just hasn't aged well. Everything between 1988 - 1994 will age wonderfully, as will You Are the Quarry, due to its special place in history in Morrissey's back catalog and the wonderful, full, clean production of the great Jerry Finn. But everything since? Some good songs, some bad, but nothing really standout or classic Morrissey.

      Morrissey needs to recapture the beauty and simplicity of The Smiths or his earlier solo work.
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    4. Orson Swells
      Orson Swells
      I remember reading an interview with him where he said the album after Strangeways... would have been like Scott Walker.
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    5. reelfountain
      reelfountain
      Yes, it would be a beautiful thing. I don't expect a return to the full magic of the Smiths, but things could be better. The other day I was listening to 'Ordinary Boys' and I couldn't imagine Moz now putting out so accomplished a musical piece. Or 'Bengali in Platforms.' Forget the lyrics, just listen to how lush the music sounds. Or 'Will Never Marry,' or 'He knows...' Stuff like that.

      A lovely clean acousticy sound perhaps similar to what Marr might've had planned.

      It would be great if Moz spread himself about for a while. Worked with different people. Maybe he'd find a good musical partner. For a while he's definitely been taking the path of least resistance with his current band. Sometimes you need to shrug off the comfort blanket and take a risk.
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    6. reelfountain
      reelfountain
      Wow. I often convince myself that The Smiths probably split at the right time.

      But when I hear a remark like that...
    7. StalinsPipe
      StalinsPipe
      I think that's why Johnny Marr has been so successful. He's written all sorts of music and played in all sorts of bands since 1987. His recent music is fantastic. The single Hi, Hello sounds just like a Smiths song and is a thing of beauty.
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    8. reelfountain
      reelfountain
      Marr currently looks like he's having a lot of fun. But I reckon he'd drop everything to work with Morrissey, or drag The Smiths out for a big worldwide reunion thing. Hope the latter never happens. It would be too vulgar in these non-mysterious times with social media and cameras flashing every second. Best to preserve the magic.
    9. Ketamine Sun
      Ketamine Sun

      I never heard/read that reel. But I did read somewhere with Marr saying that
      after he heard Viva Hate (or maybe it was one of the singles) that that is where he wanted to go with The Smiths
      next record, and then he mentioned Walker I believe he was talking about the grand string arrangements.
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    10. Orson Swells
      Orson Swells
      Yes, just like There Is A Light.
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    11. reelfountain
      reelfountain
      I think he also said that when he first heard 'Last of the Famous...' he was very impressed and slightly jealous - which is a lot for Marr to admit.
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    12. The Truth
      The Truth
      Anyone that writes an article, wears his t-shirt, poses with him in a photo, covers one of his songs, or is a current or ex-band member is HATED here.
    13. Morrissey's left nut
      Morrissey's left nut
      Go to Morrissey's next concert. It permeates the air.
    14. Stephen Hofmann
      Stephen Hofmann
      Richard Hawley........but Richard's doing a better Moz than Moz these days.
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    15. ThePoliticalRevolution
      ThePoliticalRevolution
      The next show is outdoors. I think I'll be fine.
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    16. Mayfly
      Mayfly
      - Morrissey was even playing The Loop in 2009 on the Years of Refusal tour, with Matt Walker playing double bass.[/QUOTE]

      Yes, The Loop was really a highlight of the shows of the YOR tour.
    17. Mayfly
      Mayfly
      The acoustic Smiths were - and still are - deeply touching: so warm, so sincere and so emotional. I agree that his voice can still carry that emotional depth, just listen to the live version of "Seasick…" he played on Broadway. But he also needs to find the words to make any new effort worthwhile, preferably no political ramblings of the type "Who will protect us …".

      You could argue that there have been a few attempts at a softer sound recently: Smiler With Knife (wonderfully crafted), Oboe Concerto (very enjoyable) or even The Girl from Tel Aviv although I don't think the latter s very popular with fans (I personally don't like the lyric).
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    18. Hovis Lesley
      Hovis Lesley
      That relationship was tried, around 2004 I think.
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    19. Stephen Hofmann
      Stephen Hofmann
      Yere, he tried out for the band in 91 I think.
    20. Sister I'm a Poet
      Sister I'm a Poet
      Yes, of course that's true. But Morrissey's always been his own best critic. He was smart enough to know that sycophants are sad and pathetic creatures when he wrote "Paint a Vulgar Picture" so many years ago. Unfortunately, now he is such a brittle and alienated narcissist that all he wants are sycophants.
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