Remembering ‘Bands Reunited’ - tonedeaf/thebrag.com (29 July, 2019)

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    Remembering ‘Bands Reunited’, the show that tried and failed to reunite The Smiths - Tyler Jenke / Tonedeaf / thebrag.com

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    "With the iconic vocalist performing a five-date residency at New York City’s Apollo Theatre in May of 2004, the show’s producers hit upon the idea of simply staking out the venue in hopes of catching Morrissey before he turns up to soundcheck.

    While this is a relatively solid idea on paper, its realisation soon heads south, with a six hour stake-out resulting in little more than Morrissey jumping out of his limo, heading into the venue, avoiding the crew, and leaving them without any hopes of a future reunion.

    For many fans, the image of Aamer Haleem sobbing against a van is ingrained within their memory, as others wonder why they maybe didn’t try another approach."



    https://tonedeaf.thebrag.com/bands-reunited-show-tried-failed-reunite-smiths/

    A brief article linked to the show as a whole and then focusing on The Smiths episode.

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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Famous when dead, Jul 30, 2019.

    1. ThePoliticalRevolution
      ThePoliticalRevolution
      I enjoyed it immensely myself.
    2. !Viva Hate!
      !Viva Hate!
      I don’t know...Amy said I was fucked up in the head and called me a lunatic. :cry:
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    3. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Not nearly as much as you do dead-dad-boy. The shame the man must he feeling as the flames lick at his feet.
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    4. ACTON
      ACTON
      I don't know why Alain left, any more than I know why so many artists who worked with him in the past don't seem to last long. I was at Alain's last concert in Dublin where Moz was crying during America Is Not The World, but at that point I didn't know it was his last concert. But aside from all that, do you not think Moz is lacking a creative foil to get the most from him? I loved some songs from LIHS and always championed that album on this site when everyone blasted it, but it doesn't reach the heights of Vauxhall, for example. You're right, it is just my opinion. I look forward to and enjoy every Moz album and concert, but I still think he needs to move from his stagnant Jesse pond into fresher waters with new blood.
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    5. ACTON
      ACTON
      I have approx. 5% interest in seeing The Smiths reform. It won't happen, and Moz has more than enough great songs to keep us happy. I'd love to see Joy Division reform, err if Ian was alive.
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    6. Amy
      Amy
      You're really, really oversimplifying what I've said - there's a massive difference between 'always saying no' and rightfully challenging someone when you think an aspect of their work is not up to scratch.

      As for Mike and Andy - well they had no real input into the creative decisions of the Smiths and it was pretty much their job to 'follow orders', so I'm not sure they're the greatest examples to bring in of people who would challenge Morrissey. And Stephen Street? Look what happened to him after VH - he and Morrissey became estranged and didn't properly speak again until they were both in their 50s, when Street himself offered an olive branch.

      Morrissey was "hungry" in the Smiths, he wanted to make his name, he worked hard to do that and so did Johnny. Even with Viva Hate, he was setting out to prove that he could cope on his own. But over time, people become complacent. When you've had decades of success and the same basic set-up for years, why push yourself? He got lazy. He surrounded himself with people who would wear bras, dresses and slogan T-shirts onstage and allow themselves to be laughed at for the sake of a paycheck. People who are musically competent (Tobias aside), but not likely to be poached away by the "Bryan Ferry"'s of the world anytime soon. Mediocrity.

      As for him being sensitive and vulnerable - you can't be serious. He's a narcissist to the core.
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    7. Amy
      Amy
      "I Won't Share You" was wonderful. He looked and sounded upset, but then it's a pretty emotional song.

      I wish he had sung that beautiful closing line, "I'll see you somewhere... I'll see you sometime, darling" - the perfect ending.
    8. Ketamine Sun
      Ketamine Sun
      Nah. You’re totally wrong, sorry.


      :cool:
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    9. Amy
      Amy
      Ah, the Skinny chestnut. :lbf:
    10. Ketamine Sun
      Ketamine Sun

      I don't know why Alain left, any more than I know why so many artists who worked with him in the past don't seem to last long.’

      No, we don’t know, so I don’t really think it’s fair for anyone who was not there to plant ideas based on what is usually just lazy assumption.

      But aside from all that, do you not think Moz is lacking a creative foil to get the most from him?’

      The better question would be, does ‘Morrissey feel he’s lacking a creative foil to get the most from himself ?’ And I guess the only one who can really answer that is Morrissey, not us.


      I loved some songs from LIHS and always championed that album on this site when everyone blasted it, but it doesn't reach the heights of Vauxhall, for example.‘


      LIHS reaches different heights. His writing style has changed, his earlier writing style is not better or worst when compared to his writing style presently. I feel his writing style was changing with Your Arsenal, a record
      where he purposely did not include a lyric sheet because he wanted the listeners experience to be more physical.

      I don’t judge a recent album against an earlier album. There is no better or worst, there are only different albums with their own distinct and wonderful offerings. If one is to approach and listen to his work in this way, which I believe is the correct way (well, the fairest way), then the listener will be rewarded differently with each album of his.

      If I’m in the mood to listen to Morrissey sing Hand In Glove, then I listen and enjoy it, but then my mood may change and I may crave to hear the more recent Morrissey with his writing style that goes straight to the point, where there is no time to be ambiguous, and so I may listen to Spent The Day In Bed, then I enjoy that just as much. They are different, one is not better or worst than the other.





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    11. vegan cro spirit 555
      vegan cro spirit 555

      :rolleyes:

      o_O

      maybe delete and re do as everything in this is wrong.:straightface:
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    12. The Truth
      The Truth
      Well, I never liked Hand In Glove, so you got me there. But certainly his last three records are not as good as what came before.
    13. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Nah. She’s fucking spot-on, slag.
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    14. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      There are “better and worst”. Only a light-minded sycophant would have the toddleresque audacity to suggest otherwise.

      Your opinion on these matters is not to be taken seriously, until you pull your head out of Melvis’ asshole and join the cognizant.

      I normally don’t comment on the filings of rubes. ...but you’re a special case. You seem to have created an identity out of making yourself look like a wasted, stuck pig.

      How’s the weather up there, K-hole? The sunshine is lovely out here.

      Join us sometime! ;)
    15. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      The post was spot on. You have a keen ability to duck and run from the truth. ...and then pop back in with some absolute NONSENSE. Morrissey has a driven away all those who could have helped him avoid the elevator music he puts out these days.

      ...but he has your money anyway, doesn’t he? ...fucking slag.
    16. ACTON
      ACTON
      So are you saying you couldn't rate the Moz albums in order of your favourites? That they are all your favourites? And if you do have favourites then what makes them stand out? Can you honestly say that musically, lyrically, artistically, an album such as World Peace (for example) is as good as Your Arsenal (for example)? I'm just wondering how anyone could say that every Moz album is equal. I can't say that about any artist. I love every Moz album but some more than others. For example I like Maladjusted but its one of the last Moz albums I'd listen to.
      I don't rate Jesse as a player or writer. I don't rate Jason Cooper as a player (drummer with The Cure). I like him but he pales in comparison to Boris Williams or Andy Anderson. I have favourite Cure albums. I am incapable of saying they ate all brilliant, just different. Maybe thats just me.
    17. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Yeah. That’s EXACTLY what she’s saying, from the K-hole - up Melvis’ anus.
    18. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Weller had it going for a bit but, he’s too centrist for the times. Melvis has overtaken the throne and is now the true and indisputable KING of dad-pop artists. ...who’s albums NOBODY bought or heard, save for the frozen food aisle or elevator.
    19. Ketamine Sun
      Ketamine Sun
      So are you saying you couldn't rate the Moz albums in order of your favourites? That they are all your favourites? And if you do have favourites then what makes them stand out?’

      No. Different favorites for different times. Each one has it’s own unique offering.

      Can you honestly say that musically, lyrically, artistically, an album such as World Peace (for example) is as good as Your Arsenal (for example)?

      I can honestly say that musically, lyrically, artistically, an album such as World Peace (for example) is as good as Your Arsenal because it’s different than Your Arsenal (for example). :p

      Though, if forced to pick only 3 Morrissey albums... I would choose Viva Hate, Your Arsenal, and Vauxhall. Not because they are better than the others, but because of the impression they made on the person that I was at that time. Though to call them my favorites
      just wouldn’t be correct.

      Sorry, if this is difficult for others to understand.
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    20. Ketamine Sun
      Ketamine Sun
      Well, it is subjective.

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