Releasing more than three singles off one album is milking things too far

[Republican Party Reptile]

Everyone who wants "You Are The Quarry" has it already, Morrissey. At some point you gotta move on to the next project......

And while the "deluxe" edition is very nice to have, you did it wrong: You should've released it first, not second. That way you wouldn't have exposed yourself as the businessman wanting to exloit a loyal fanbase. I know everyone's doing it, but you get on your high horse and claim to be different.....

 

[pariah]

if you have a problem with it then dont buy it better yet wait a few months and check it out of your local public library.

love,
pariah

> Everyone who wants "You Are The Quarry" has it already,
> Morrissey. At some point you gotta move on to the next project......

> And while the "deluxe" edition is very nice to have, you did it
> wrong: You should've released it first, not second. That way you wouldn't
> have exposed yourself as the businessman wanting to exloit a loyal
> fanbase. I know everyone's doing it, but you get on your high horse and
> claim to be different.....

 

[Sharron Needles]

> Everyone who wants "You Are The Quarry" has it already,
> Morrissey. At some point you gotta move on to the next project......

> And while the "deluxe" edition is very nice to have, you did it
> wrong: You should've released it first, not second. That way you wouldn't
> have exposed yourself as the businessman wanting to exloit a loyal
> fanbase. I know everyone's doing it, but you get on your high horse and
> claim to be different.....

There's an easy solution to that.... Just don't buy the deluxe. I don't think releasing more than 3 singles is 'milking it' as you say. There are some of us that really like the single format, and if it's a band I real really like, I will usually end up buying the single, even if the other tracks are available elsewhere. If anyone's milking anything, it's more like Sire, EMI, or WEA. But again, I think that there's nothing wrong with the singles. The Smiths, afterall, were a single's band...

 

[Republican Party Reptile]

> There's an easy solution to that.... Just don't buy the deluxe. I don't
> think releasing more than 3 singles is 'milking it' as you say. There are
> some of us that really like the single format, and if it's a band I real
> really like, I will usually end up buying the single, even if the other
> tracks are available elsewhere. If anyone's milking anything, it's more
> like Sire, EMI, or WEA. But again, I think that there's nothing wrong with
> the singles. The Smiths, afterall, were a single's band...

"EMI have just released two DVDs of truly atrocious quality. I beg you, don't buy them." - Morrissey, reacting to the DVD releases of "Hulmerist" and "The Malady Lingers On."

Truly atrocious quality? No, truly atrocious quality was the bonus DVD with the FIRST "limited edition" of "You Are The Quarry." That release promised to be "deluxe" but turned out to be a marketing scam. But EMI releasing these reasonably price DVDs was giving the fans exactly what they wanted. So why did he beg people not to buy them? Obviously for mere business reasons I can only speculate about.

Of course I bought the deluxe. It's better than the non-deluxe, duh. An I'm happy to have it. But it shouldn't go unnoticed that this is now becoming a trend of the record companies to exploit fans.

If he wanted a deluxe edition so badly, he should've done the first one properly. The Kilborn shit wasn't there yet, but he could've put bonus tracks and found something cool for the DVD (why not that TV documentary some of us never saw?), and then tacked the Kilborn material on to the DVD he's releasing next year. And memo to Sanctuary: No one likes a gay-assed "photo gallery" on a DVD.....

As far as the single format, that's fine that you like it. I used to like the single format until the British recording industry started all their gay tactics. I was fine with the first two U.S. singles which were done properly. Whatever the case, the purpose of a single is to get people interested in buying the album. In the old days I believe they only released about two singles per album. Then Michael Jackson came along and released about eight. This is a bigger problem with artists who actually get aurplay, because you get sick of songs when you hear them too much. Morrissey doesn't get airplay in the U.S., but he does in the U.K., right? And I just think that if you can't sell your album with three singles it's time to move on.

Morrissey came dangerously close to turning off people with excessive pre-release marketing of the album. If he's smart he'd see that the album was successful and people will be waiting for the next one. So back off on the over-marketing of "You Are The Quarry", lay low for the winter, release the concert DVD in the spring, and get to work on the next project for later in 2005.

 

[insignificantmorrisseyfan]

Re: Everything but the label

> Everyone who wants "You Are The Quarry" has it already,
> Morrissey. At some point you gotta move on to the next project......
> And while the "deluxe" edition is very nice to have, you did it
> wrong: You should've released it first, not second. That way you wouldn't
> have exposed yourself as the businessman wanting to exloit a loyal
> fanbase. I know everyone's doing it, but you get on your high horse and
> claim to be different.....

Several years ago the comment about one album was that they had released everything as a single except the label. It was true that there were so many good tracks.

Face it most albums have nothing releasable except one track - or maybe nothing at all.

Nobody is forcing you to buy anything. It's your own choice.

 

[What the hell happened to Gwen?]

And yet you know you bought it all anyway.

> Everyone who wants "You Are The Quarry" has it already,
> Morrissey. At some point you gotta move on to the next project......

> And while the "deluxe" edition is very nice to have, you did it
> wrong: You should've released it first, not second. That way you wouldn't
> have exposed yourself as the businessman wanting to exloit a loyal
> fanbase. I know everyone's doing it, but you get on your high horse and
> claim to be different.....

Complaints like this crack me up. Instead of complaining about, show him you really mean business and don't buy any of it. If you feel exploited, it's only because you allowed yourself to be.

 

[lg]

Why do you use the word "gay" in such a pejorative connotation, mate?
You should've known better, being a "Morrissey fan" and all.

> "EMI have just released two DVDs of truly atrocious quality. I beg
> you, don't buy them." - Morrissey, reacting to the DVD releases of
> "Hulmerist" and "The Malady Lingers On."

> Truly atrocious quality? No, truly atrocious quality was the bonus DVD
> with the FIRST "limited edition" of "You Are The
> Quarry." That release promised to be "deluxe" but turned
> out to be a marketing scam. But EMI releasing these reasonably price DVDs
> was giving the fans exactly what they wanted. So why did he beg people not
> to buy them? Obviously for mere business reasons I can only speculate
> about.

> Of course I bought the deluxe. It's better than the non-deluxe, duh. An
> I'm happy to have it. But it shouldn't go unnoticed that this is now
> becoming a trend of the record companies to exploit fans.

> If he wanted a deluxe edition so badly, he should've done the first one
> properly. The Kilborn shit wasn't there yet, but he could've put bonus
> tracks and found something cool for the DVD (why not that TV documentary
> some of us never saw?), and then tacked the Kilborn material on to the DVD
> he's releasing next year. And memo to Sanctuary: No one likes a gay-assed
> "photo gallery" on a DVD.....

> As far as the single format, that's fine that you like it. I used to like
> the single format until the British recording industry started all their
> gay tactics. I was fine with the first two U.S. singles which were done
> properly. Whatever the case, the purpose of a single is to get people
> interested in buying the album. In the old days I believe they only
> released about two singles per album. Then Michael Jackson came along and
> released about eight. This is a bigger problem with artists who actually
> get aurplay, because you get sick of songs when you hear them too much.
> Morrissey doesn't get airplay in the U.S., but he does in the U.K., right?
> And I just think that if you can't sell your album with three singles it's
> time to move on.

> Morrissey came dangerously close to turning off people with excessive
> pre-release marketing of the album. If he's smart he'd see that the album
> was successful and people will be waiting for the next one. So back off on
> the over-marketing of "You Are The Quarry", lay low for the
> winter, release the concert DVD in the spring, and get to work on the next
> project for later in 2005.

 

[What the hell happened to Gwen?]

> Why do you use the word "gay" in such a pejorative connotation,
> mate?
> You should've known better, being a "Morrissey fan" and all.

He's the resident homophobic Republican, that's why.

 

[lg]

A Republican Morrissey fan is something surreal.
Like a Jewish Hitler supporter, no offence intended.
Moz would be thrilled to know that.

> He's the resident homophobic Republican, that's why.

 

[fallfan]

> Everyone who wants "You Are The Quarry" has it already,
> Morrissey. At some point you gotta move on to the next project......

> And while the "deluxe" edition is very nice to have, you did it
> wrong: You should've released it first, not second. That way you wouldn't
> have exposed yourself as the businessman wanting to exloit a loyal
> fanbase. I know everyone's doing it, but you get on your high horse and
> claim to be different.....
Yeah, its absolutely horrible having 3 new Morrissey songs to hear every few months. Christ, find something worthwhile to bitch about.

 

[Mr.Improper PIMP of the mutha fuggin nation..and p]

Re: NO!!!! It's called"he has a good album".................

Unlike the f***in idiots who rule the pop world now with their one f***in song...what happened to everyone here's favorite band:the killers???? Finally realized they f***in suck cock. God forbid they actuaslly have more than 1 song off their album do well. Then again,god forbid ANYONE in the current music scene(minus:moz/u2/duran duran/the cure,why???? we already know they f***in rule and dont need to have 3 singles off 1 album to prove it).

 

[Conservative Morrissey Fan]

> A Republican Morrissey fan is something surreal.
> Like a Jewish Hitler supporter, no offence intended.
> Moz would be thrilled to know that.

Morrissey would also be thrilled about the money I've given him to let him live the lifestyle he lives. I (a conservative fan) have every Smiths and Morrissey album, many many singles, videos and DVDs, concert tees and have seen him 30+ times thus far. Being a Republican Morrissey fan is NOT surreal. I just don't mix politics with music. Despite Morrissey's efforts againt Bush, I voted for Bush and glad Bush won. All you liberals on this board that bitch about Bush winning are sore losers. Why don't you all act like Sen. Kerry and gracefully accept defeat.

 

[lg]

Hey, Mister ou Ms, I'm not even American, nor a "liberal".

But you know Morrissey stands against most of the things you believe in, don't you?
It's clear by reading the lyrics.
Why would you support someone whose beliefs or principles go against yours?

One small example: "We won't vote Conservative

Because we never have".

He's an artist who DOES mix Politics with Music.

I am not in accordance with everything he says or writes about, however, I believe he has very good sense and respect his opinions.

Yu have every right to express your opinions, so do I.

> Morrissey would also be thrilled about the money I've given him to let him
> live the lifestyle he lives. I (a conservative fan) have every Smiths and
> Morrissey album, many many singles, videos and DVDs, concert tees and have
> seen him 30+ times thus far. Being a Republican Morrissey fan is NOT
> surreal. I just don't mix politics with music. Despite Morrissey's efforts
> againt Bush, I voted for Bush and glad Bush won. All you liberals on this
> board that bitch about Bush winning are sore losers. Why don't you all act
> like Sen. Kerry and gracefully accept defeat.