Redbrick: "The Smiths: There is a Band That Will Never Die Out" (November 3, 2019)

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TV Editor Catrin Osborne discusses the legacy of The Smiths as a quintessential university band.

Excerpt:

"Within the ephemeral online culture of Gen Z (those of us born after 1996) has risen the phenomenon of posting explicitly depressive statements which draws parallels with many of Morrisey’s lyrics. No song by The Smiths exemplifies this better than ‘How Soon is Now?’. A song that pairs Johnny Marr’s jangly guitar with Morrisey’s lamentations on the experience of a failed night out where he concludes ‘And you go home and you cry / And you want to die’. This juxtaposition between joyous instrumental and sorrowful lyrics seems as popular now as it was when it was released. Dubbed ‘sadfishing,’ young people are oversharing their emotions online in the modern age and this is reflected in a lot of popular music. However, there is nothing new about Billie Eilish singing ‘I wanna end me’ over a fast-paced, dance beat. The Smiths did that over a decade before today’s students were even born."

https://www.redbrick.me/the-smiths/

Regards,
FWD.
 

Mozmar

Well-Known Member
The only person wetting themselves appears to be you son.

No, 'Dad' I don't think so, no wetting myself at this end thanks...
I'm simply responding to the schoolboy comments courtesy of skinny & then yourself ..the ones further up the thread...shall I point them out for you? & then against each point made in the 'article' just to show how weak it is, & how I reached my conclusion...I'm referring to the article which you accused me of not having read because I didn't like the ending, which you wrongly stated was 'factual'.
You're attacking the response bcos it doesn't align with your thinking & was maybe too long for you to read.
Break it up into bite size chunks if it makes it easier for you to comprehend.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
They are. Dumb & pitiless. They might think they're on the nice side but they're the pitchforks & torches type.

True.

They are pitiless & dumb
& they are plain
How dearly I wish they'd get carried away
 

snoddywilko

Well-Known Member
It's going to be fun watching the drones comment on this. It will go like this:

"Nice. Paying homage to The Smiths"

"Oh...wait...er..."

"The bastards. How could they?"

Says the biggest droning drone of them all; via his numerous other accounts & anonymous postings.

(cue immediate troll rating by Skinny, oh, I mean Trill)
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Let's take these point by point before you all jump all over it hysterically wetting yourselves with glee, shall we?

  • Not a week goes by without Morrisey’s [sic] big mouth striking again.
Well that's using the most boring, un-inventive, copy-cat & over used press cliche...at that point I'd lost any real interest, &, added to the fact she incorrectly spells 'Morrisey', the article had already lost all credibility as far as I was concerned. Those schoolgirl errors aside, it's actually false, & a complete gross exaggeration for a start. Give me a week by week list of things where 'bigmouth' has struck 'again'..if it's not false, as I say, then provide this 'not a week goes by' timeline of evidence.
Yes that's correct but someone with half a brain would look beyond the headline to find the correct context in which it was used (I have but I can't be arsed to type it in here - go use google), & when did he say this? errmm 2010 FFS
Yep this is correct - so what? he can wear what he wants; you make your own interpretation why he did so...has Moz voted for them? have you looked, read & understood what they (FB) stand for?
Yep he probably did, so what? does it have any real relevance today? have you read any history relevant to that period? what did Hitler stand for? was it left or right in today's context? is socialism left wing? isn't Corbyn left wing? Take a look at Jossey written in 2018 who references Hayek..it's an interesting read, if you have an open mind...or even a mind of your own
True, but it is a fact that Khan cannot speak proper English, he speaks estuary English. For a man in the office of 'Mayor of London' I personally find that appalling
Yes it was his right to remove a protester from his concert;
Has anyone proved otherwise?

The facts are, & let's be totally frank, I can safely say, without fear of contradiction, that all of this is regurgitated stuff, some of it almost a decade old.

If you want to revel in more of the same, & feel it supports your cause, then crack on fools, but my conclusion remains the same, it's regurgitation of the Sturges article, which in itself was regurgitation of someone else's article & I therefore conclude, it's another 'no mark article'.

And this is regurgitation of the apologist argument. You went to a lot of effort to say nothing new.
 

Trill

Senior Member
Let's take these point by point before you all jump all over it hysterically wetting yourselves with glee, shall we?

  • Not a week goes by without Morrisey’s [sic] big mouth striking again.
Well that's using the most boring, un-inventive, copy-cat & over used press cliche...at that point I'd lost any real interest, &, added to the fact she incorrectly spells 'Morrisey', the article had already lost all credibility as far as I was concerned. Those schoolgirl errors aside, it's actually false, & a complete gross exaggeration for a start. Give me a week by week list of things where 'bigmouth' has struck 'again'..if it's not false, as I say, then provide this 'not a week goes by' timeline of evidence.
Yes that's correct but someone with half a brain would look beyond the headline to find the correct context in which it was used (I have but I can't be arsed to type it in here - go use google), & when did he say this? errmm 2010 FFS
Yep this is correct - so what? he can wear what he wants; you make your own interpretation why he did so...has Moz voted for them? have you looked, read & understood what they (FB) stand for?
Yep he probably did, so what? does it have any real relevance today? have you read any history relevant to that period? what did Hitler stand for? was it left or right in today's context? is socialism left wing? isn't Corbyn left wing? Take a look at Jossey written in 2018 who references Hayek..it's an interesting read, if you have an open mind...or even a mind of your own
True, but it is a fact that Khan cannot speak proper English, he speaks estuary English. For a man in the office of 'Mayor of London' I personally find that appalling
Yes it was his right to remove a protester from his concert;
Has anyone proved otherwise?

The facts are, & let's be totally frank, I can safely say, without fear of contradiction, that all of this is regurgitated stuff, some of it almost a decade old.

If you want to revel in more of the same, & feel it supports your cause, then crack on fools, but my conclusion remains the same, it's regurgitation of the Sturges article, which in itself was regurgitation of someone else's article & I therefore conclude, it's another 'no mark article'.
A f***ing lunatic.
 

snoddywilko

Well-Known Member
Let's take these point by point before you all jump all over it hysterically wetting yourselves with glee, shall we?

  • Not a week goes by without Morrisey’s [sic] big mouth striking again.
Well that's using the most boring, un-inventive, copy-cat & over used press cliche...at that point I'd lost any real interest, &, added to the fact she incorrectly spells 'Morrisey', the article had already lost all credibility as far as I was concerned. Those schoolgirl errors aside, it's actually false, & a complete gross exaggeration for a start. Give me a week by week list of things where 'bigmouth' has struck 'again'..if it's not false, as I say, then provide this 'not a week goes by' timeline of evidence.
Yes that's correct but someone with half a brain would look beyond the headline to find the correct context in which it was used (I have but I can't be arsed to type it in here - go use google), & when did he say this? errmm 2010 FFS
Yep this is correct - so what? he can wear what he wants; you make your own interpretation why he did so...has Moz voted for them? have you looked, read & understood what they (FB) stand for?
Yep he probably did, so what? does it have any real relevance today? have you read any history relevant to that period? what did Hitler stand for? was it left or right in today's context? is socialism left wing? isn't Corbyn left wing? Take a look at Jossey written in 2018 who references Hayek..it's an interesting read, if you have an open mind...or even a mind of your own
True, but it is a fact that Khan cannot speak proper English, he speaks estuary English. For a man in the office of 'Mayor of London' I personally find that appalling
Yes it was his right to remove a protester from his concert;
Has anyone proved otherwise?

The facts are, & let's be totally frank, I can safely say, without fear of contradiction, that all of this is regurgitated stuff, some of it almost a decade old.

If you want to revel in more of the same, & feel it supports your cause, then crack on fools, but my conclusion remains the same, it's regurgitation of the Sturges article, which in itself was regurgitation of someone else's article & I therefore conclude, it's another 'no mark article'.

Well said.
 

Trill

Senior Member
That’s a very accurate self-appraisal for one as dense as you.

Nice to see you’re finally having a good hard look in the mirror.
A man in his 50s wrote that. He basically wrote “I KNOW YOU ARE!”. That’s what the far-right are like. c*** children.
 
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TV Editor Catrin Osborne discusses the legacy of The Smiths as a quintessential university band.

Excerpt:

"Within the ephemeral online culture of Gen Z (those of us born after 1996) has risen the phenomenon of posting explicitly depressive statements which draws parallels with many of Morrisey’s lyrics. No song by The Smiths exemplifies this better than ‘How Soon is Now?’. A song that pairs Johnny Marr’s jangly guitar with Morrisey’s lamentations on the experience of a failed night out where he concludes ‘And you go home and you cry / And you want to die’. This juxtaposition between joyous instrumental and sorrowful lyrics seems as popular now as it was when it was released. Dubbed ‘sadfishing,’ young people are oversharing their emotions online in the modern age and this is reflected in a lot of popular music. However, there is nothing new about Billie Eilish singing ‘I wanna end me’ over a fast-paced, dance beat. The Smiths did that over a decade before today’s students were even born."

https://www.redbrick.me/the-smiths/

Regards,
FWD.
:sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:
 
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Anonymous

Guest
A f***ing lunatic.

But the poster is correct isn't he Trill?
If not, do join in & tell us, son...if you are able to type more than 3 words...get help if required.
Or can't you handle it when someone pulls an article to pieces, son?
Look forward to your written reply.
Yours lovingly,
Etcetera...
 
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Anonymous

Guest
It's going to be fun watching the drones comment on this. It will go like this:

"Nice. Paying homage to The Smiths"

"Oh...wait...er..."

"The bastards. How could they?"

This is a fansite that may very well die out.
The repetition is boredom incarnate.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
A man in his 50s wrote that. He basically wrote “I KNOW YOU ARE!”. That’s what the far-right are like. c*** children.

You're having a tizz Trill, calm down son, I've never seen you in such a frazzled state. You seem to be fake-outraging.

What's "I KNOW YOU ARE!" mean, son?
 

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