Queen Elizabeth II has died, Buckingham Palace announces - BBC (September 8, 2022)

She’s passed away now.

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Queen Elizabeth II has died, Buckingham Palace announces

Queen Elizabeth II has died, Buckingham Palace has announced.

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Why on earth would Morrissey-solo not use The Queen is Dead as the headline.

And to think The Daily Mail did when the news broke

 

[Les Tameside]

Well if there was a referendum on whether the constitutional monarchy should be disbanded I would fully expect that result to be a landslide in favour of not disbanding.

You are in a minority and you have every right to have those views but in terms of constitutional changes there are a million things far higher in priority to most people than removing the monarchy. There are far more things that need to be changed that oppress people.

Even Corbyn as one of the most well known and outspoken republicans has paid tribute to her.

No one is silencing anyone. It is the choice of the majority of the uk people and this time and time again is reflected in polling.

As for them taking part in the incarceration of people who can’t pay their energy bills. Rubbish. They have no control over anything related to that.

If the monarchy can have the royal crest removed from Harrods, they can have the HMP removed from British jails. Being the head of the British state means the royal family is identical with it (albeit in some qualified fashion). They’re complicit and share responsibility. They certainly reap the material benefits.

They can, of course, intervene in matters they choose to. And they often do, using media savvy to bamboozal the proles: The Queen herself celebrated Scotland’s decision to remain part of the union—we know through an ‘indiscretion. And Charles recently ‘let slip’ his feelings on the government’s appalling and cowardly Rwanda ambitions for refugees (the government is apparently now having a ‘rethink’). But hardened gangsters in Manchester pubs recognised that as a new low.

If there was a referendum on the monarchy tomorrow, they would of course win it. And if it was in two years time, wherein there would be time for the dots to be joined with the manifold of nodes of corruption and cruelty (both modern and historical) I suspect they’d win by a narrow margin—but be fatally holed (through the exposure) beneath the waterline.

The population of the North West of England, with its high density of Irish, Caribbean, Pakistani and Bangladeshi descendants, would naturally favour a republic.

Nothing to fear? Then bring the discussion on. The oxymoron of democracy with a shielded and secure monarchy is a national embarrassment. Particularly when its representatives famously rush to rub shoulders with the most undesirable individuals, and despotic regimes, on the planet.

As a beginning they might do well to apologise to the population of Ireland who provided ready target practice prior to the British occupation of the Americas. They might follow by saying sorry for giving the royal seal of approval given to the catastrophic lie of ‘the famine’, which remains beyond even the reach of the complicit ‘woke’ brigade in its ongoing propagation in UK schools. The Monarchy enjoyed the ‘fruits’ of the famine’s policy of syphoning the abundance of produce from Ireland, whilst blaming mass starvation on potato blight. Nice. But the thing is, even with the Soviet style censorship, shit like that will stain British royalty forever. And in the context of a referendum, I might just stick it on a pamphlet.

 

[Anonymous]

Wh

You're misunderstanding. What's taught in the US curriculum is that the British monarchy was considered, in the late 18th century, by the colonists, something to be rid of. That is basic American history. Of course they're not teaching that the present-day British should dismantle the monarchy. That's an issue for the British to decide, not American schoolchildren. How you could possibly misunderstand this, I don't know.

The context of my comment was someone suggesting that anti-royalist sentiment was nothing more than people wanting to ape Morrissey. That's simply not true. They are anti-royalists in the UK who don't have any interest in Morrissey. And Americans often have anti-royalism in their bones; it's a foundational aspect of our history. We began by hating the despotism of British monarchs, and now we can hate the empty ceremony of these wealthy people who have no longer possess any meaningful power, make nice at dinner parties, and gratify the British public with their various misbehaviors, couplings, babies, and Kardashian-like soap opera.

Which isn’t what you said originally. The context you used was that you didn’t understand why the British people wanted the monarchy and that even Kids in elementary school are taught that the monarchy is something to be rid of. It was not in relation to history. You can take the context away and it means something different.

You still are writing factually incorrect shite in relation to finances and the duties of the monarch and the work they do. Nothing like a dog with a bone. It is boring

 

[Anonymous]

If the monarchy can have the royal crest removed from Harrods, they can have the HMP removed from British jails. Being the head of the British state means the royal family is identical with it (albeit in some qualified fashion). They’re complicit and share responsibility. They certainly reap the material benefits.

They can, of course, intervene in matters they choose to. And they often do, using media savvy to bamboozal the proles: The Queen herself celebrated Scotland’s decision to remain part of the union—we know through an ‘indiscretion. And Charles recently ‘let slip’ his feelings on the government’s appalling and cowardly Rwanda ambitions for refugees (the government is apparently now having a ‘rethink’). But hardened gangsters in Manchester pubs recognised that as a new low.

If there was a referendum on the monarchy tomorrow, they would of course win it. And if it was in two years time, wherein there would be time for the dots to be joined with the manifold of nodes of corruption and cruelty (both modern and historical) I suspect they’d win by a narrow margin—but be fatally holed (through the exposure) beneath the waterline.

The population of the North West of England, with its high density of Irish, Caribbean, Pakistani and Bangladeshi descendants, would naturally favour a republic.

Nothing to fear? Then bring the discussion on. The oxymoron of democracy with a shielded and secure monarchy is a national embarrassment. Particularly when its representatives famously rush to rub shoulders with the most undesirable individuals, and despotic regimes, on the planet.

As a beginning they might do well to apologise to the population of Ireland who provided ready target practice prior to the British occupation of the Americas. They might follow by saying sorry for giving the royal seal of approval given to the catastrophic lie of ‘the famine’, which remains beyond even the reach of the complicit ‘woke’ brigade in its ongoing propagation in UK schools. The Monarchy enjoyed the ‘fruits’ of the famine’s policy of syphoning the abundance of produce from Ireland, whilst blaming mass starvation on potato blight. Nice. But the thing is, even with the Soviet style censorship, shit like that will stain British royalty forever. And in the context of a referendum, I might just stick it on a pamphlet.

Jesus you make statements of fact that are completely untrue.

Charles’s comment re sending immigrants to Rawanda has nothing to do with the government rethinking it. It has everything to do with the legal challenges from the court of human rights who blocked the plane going there. Charles has many times expressed his views on many thinks in particular on climate change but he wasn’t the monarch and that policy or not being involved in politics applies to the monarch so I would expect many things that to change now he is king.

As for mixing with dodgy foreign powers the monarch has no choice on official diplomatic visits. They are planned by government and they have to do as they are told.

You also mix up what a royal warrant is in relation to Harrods. A Royal Warrant is controlled by the monarch and merely indicates that the monarch is linked to a product usually because they buy goods from them. They naturally stopped sourcing their food etc from Harrods when it’s owner at the time was staying in the media that they had murdered Diana.

HMP is not a royal warrant but is an official service Her Majesty’s Prison and she has no control over such things. She can’t change the name of a government controlled service for prisons any more than she can change the name of the Royal Navy.

As for Ireland she has visited Ireland and was welcomed with open arms and she met up with one of the IRA leaders who was linked to the murder of her close relative so a lot of forgiveness was exchanged on both sides.

Condemning people eternally for something that she had no direct control of or something that was a political dispute a long time ago is just something most people in Ireland want to move on from. It is one of the very reasons the peace process was a success and remains a success and trying to drag people back into that dispute is just unwarranted.

 

[lonely_high_court_judge]

So people without political power are worthless. Does that include you?

Almost worthless, is what I said. Politicians are elected by the people, but then tend to go on to ignore or not properly understand the interests of the people.

 

[Dirk Blaggard]

She did way more for the people of Manchester after the bombing than f***ing Morrissey that's for sure
She went up and paid her respects, a 94 year old travelled miles. What did little M do? Oh yes, he used the death in his end-of-year video statement and then wrote a shit song about how people prefer Oasis to him.
It's funny how dumb none Brit/Isiah fans are, they make comments armed with no knowledge bar a few made-for-hype M quotes.
The Modern brit ones aren't so great either, no love, no warmth just bitterness rising
f***ing dummies

 

[Anonymous]

Almost worthless, is what I said. Politicians are elected by the people, but then tend to go on to ignore or not properly understand the interests of the people.

The fact the monarchy doesn’t have political power is what maintains their popularity. No one would really like them getting involved politically and the work they do doesn’t require them to get political. The whole point is that they appear to be neutral but being neutral doesn’t really mean worthless. I am not politically involved but I would like to think I will die having had some worthwhile contribution to society.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

She did way more for the people of Manchester after the bombing than f***ing Morrissey that's for sure
She went up and paid her respects, a 94 year old travelled miles.

Duty bound, even at that age, and I’ll give her that. But isn’t that what they get paid for?

What did little M do? Oh yes, he used the death in his end-of-year video statement and then wrote a shit song about how people prefer Oasis to him.

Is that what the song is about? Could be yours, but not everyone’s opinion.

It's funny how dumb none Brit/Isiah fans are, they make comments armed with no knowledge bar a few made-for-hype M quotes.
The Modern brit ones aren't so great either, no love, no warmth just bitterness rising
f***ing dummies

Who are the ‘modern brit ones’ ? and how can you tell?

 

[Les Tameside]

Jesus you make statements of fact that are completely untrue.

Charles’s comment re sending immigrants to Rawanda has nothing to do with the government rethinking it. It has everything to do with the legal challenges from the court of human rights who blocked the plane going there. Charles has many times expressed his views on many thinks in particular on climate change but he wasn’t the monarch and that policy or not being involved in politics applies to the monarch so I would expect many things that to change now he is king.

As for mixing with dodgy foreign powers the monarch has no choice on official diplomatic visits. They are planned by government and they have to do as they are told.

You also mix up what a royal warrant is in relation to Harrods. A Royal Warrant is controlled by the monarch and merely indicates that the monarch is linked to a product usually because they buy goods from them. They naturally stopped sourcing their food etc from Harrods when it’s owner at the time was staying in the media that they had murdered Diana.

HMP is not a royal warrant but is an official service Her Majesty’s Prison and she has no control over such things. She can’t change the name of a government controlled service for prisons any more than she can change the name of the Royal Navy.

As for Ireland she has visited Ireland and was welcomed with open arms and she met up with one of the IRA leaders who was linked to the murder of her close relative so a lot of forgiveness was exchanged on both sides.

Condemning people eternally for something that she had no direct control of or something that was a political dispute a long time ago is just something most people in Ireland want to move on from. It is one of the very reasons the peace process was a success and remains a success and trying to drag people back into that dispute is just unwarranted.

Don’t be ridiculous: nobody is blaming the Liz or Chuck personally. But as the head of the institution, she/he should take responsibility for what it’s done. The fact that the monarchy is absolved of responsibility is the nub of the problem.

Just a democratic and transparent referendum. That’s all I’d like to see. And that’s all everything the occurs within the next few months will be geared up to distract from, and ultimately deny.

 

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How thrilling that Americans should be holy than thou, really does make for mesmerising reading.

 

[BrokenFrame]

She did way more for the people of Manchester after the bombing than f***ing Morrissey that's for sure
She went up and paid her respects, a 94 year old travelled miles. What did little M do? Oh yes, he used the death in his end-of-year video statement and then wrote a shit song about how people prefer Oasis to him.
It's funny how dumb none Brit/Isiah fans are, they make comments armed with no knowledge bar a few made-for-hype M quotes.
The Modern brit ones aren't so great either, no love, no warmth just bitterness rising
f***ing dummies

he's just a pop singer, what do people want of him?

 

[Anonymous]

he's just a pop singer, what do people want of him?

If only he considered himself to be just a pop singer instead of lecturing to the world. What to eat, what to think, who to hate, what hate t shirts to wear, what music to hate, what leaders to hate, blah blah blah

 

[Anonymous]

Duty bound, even at that age, and I’ll give her that. But isn’t that what they get paid for?

Is that what the song is about? Could be yours, but not everyone’s opinion.


Who are the ‘modern brit ones’ ? and how can you tell?

I don’t think she was obliged under her job to go to Manchester. That wasn’t on the government list of official required visits. She didn’t need to. That isn’t what she was paid for. Wasn’t required but she chose to go.

 

[Anonymous]

Don’t be ridiculous: nobody is blaming the Liz or Chuck personally. But as the head of the institution, she/he should take responsibility for what it’s done. The fact that the monarchy is absolved of responsibility is the nub of the problem.

Just a democratic and transparent referendum. That’s all I’d like to see. And that’s all everything the occurs within the next few months will be geared up to distract from, and ultimately deny.

All of that was dealt with. Both sides in Ireland had talks and there is now peace. Do you think descendants of people in the uk who put notices up saying no blacks no Irish should be eternally attacked for being linked to those actions too?

It is about forgiveness and the desire to move on. We are all linked and have all benefited from the profits of the slave trade in the uk and other terrible profitable outcomes of colonialism but provided this is acknowledged and that is a work in progress issue then it achieves nothing to constantly attack descendants of people involved in these things.

Same in Germany. There are descendants of Nazis living today. Should they be declaring their responsibility for being linked to that institution?

This ridiculous clinging on to hate because of things that happened a long long time ago does nothing but tear you apart with anger inside. It has no effect on the target or your anger.

 

[Famous when dead]

FWD.

 

[Anonymous]

So, no message from Morrissey? Cat got his tongue? Any bets on whether he will heap on more bile or will he be contrite and gentle in his reaction or will there be continued silence?

 

[Janice]

So, no message from Morrissey? Cat got his tongue? Any bets on whether he will heap on more bile or will he be contrite and gentle in his reaction or will there be continued silence?

Hopefully the latter.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

I don’t think she was obliged under her job to go to Manchester.

Ah yes then she felt duty bound to do so, definitely a good move if she cares about her public image and that of the monarchy. That’s not to say she didn’t feel for those children, of course.

That wasn’t on the government list of official required visits. She didn’t need to. That isn’t what she was paid for. Wasn’t required but she chose to go.

But how did you come to that conclusion and is this government list made public? I’m just learning about these things, and would like a link. Thanks.

 

[Thewlis]

Beautiful words from Sandie!

 

[Light Housework]

She lived long. That's cause for celebration for her fans.