How can you say the argument wouldn't EXIST?
I thought it was clear but I'll explain, if men were just as susceptible to becoming pregnant as women, we wouldn't be having this discussion, there would probably be one, or several people still voicing this opinion, but it would never be a front-page issue. I'm no feminist but society has been historically patriarchial, there are still strong remnants of that running through our society, these religious fanatic types are even more so. Women did not invent this "abortion is evil" hysteria, it was some stupid white man somewhere with too much time on his hands and too little brains. If men could get pregnant abortion would be SACRED, it's so easy to look down from ones' high horse when it isn't the rest of YOUR life.
What's primarily to blame for the climate of the abortion debate in America is that the U.S. Supreme Court cut off the ability of the people to debate and work out the issue through democracy at the state and local levels. I, personally, think it would crush the religious-right if the Supreme Court over-turned Roe vs. Wade. You'd suddenly have a Republican Party scrambling to assure women they didn't really mean it when they said they would outlaw abortions.
I think you'd just have a few extra dead women for no good reason.
Morrissey may very well be pro-abortion-rights, but he most assuredly believes the vast majority of abortions are immoral. You can't really preach that it is MURDER to kill anything and everything other than a plant...except, oh, I'm a feminist so bully to you if you exterminate that human fetus! He does, after all, consider killing a slug or a spider "murder", and admires terrorist violence against scientists doing research on fish to cure cancer at Oxford University.
Morrissey is NOT pro-life. Give me a break. He has also clearly demonstrated, as you admit, even though it's a travesty of logic, he considers animal life sacred, not human life.
You attack extremist ideology and seem to separate Morrissey from extremism, yet Morrissey's extremism on animal rights has much in common with not just pro-lifers but the most hardcore and radical pro-lifers who advocate the bombings of abortion clinics.
I garuntee you will NEVER see those crowds hanging together, one are left wing retards, the other are right wing retards. I didn't say Morrissey shouldn't be associated with extremist ideology, just this idiotic, far RIGHT extremism, that is the antithesis of what he is.I find it very offensive that someone would use him to promote a right wing agenda he most certainly never would endorse.
As for me, I don't feel much moral concern about abortions because I don't believe in a human soul. Double the number of fetuses killed and I'll shrug, maybe even smile (it probably would lower the crime rate,
Theres a book called Freakonomics" that presents a pretty ironclad case for this.
I won't call a baby fully human until they've been out of the womb and out in the world for a bit.
For once we're in total agreement.
But I do think the cartoon that started this thread is very much in line with Morrissey's moral viewpoint (except he might feel the word "human" is speciesist).
Not remotely, it's on the other side of the political spectrum. Also, even if he is religious, of which I'm not totally convinced, he's not that sort of conservative christian in the slightest.
And if you're a silly woman who is aborting a baby because you weren't smart enough to use birth control, you'd better hope I'm right about there being no human soul or else you're going straight to the Lake of Fire. Fortunately, I'm male and cannot get pregnant.
You prove my original point.
wha? Which way is the wind blowing for ya, Mozzy1...yay OR nay?
