Born to Harangue
7th generation potato famine survivor 💪
I can't find where you said it now, but this will make interesting reading.
Hindley and The Smiths: art vs artifice
Found this article in the Guardian today and the reference to Suffer Little Children reminded how, at one point, Morrissey was capable of really connecting emotionally with others and could show kindness, warmth and compassion. T-shirts with Myra Hindley on them? Modern art has forgotten how to...www.morrissey-solo.com
Still the Queen in 2016, rifke in that thread said the following: "i used to, when i was 19, hang around this serial killer forum, back when i was going through that obligatory killerz are kool phase that we all go through as youngsters (right??)"
I had the obligatory serial killer phase too when I was 18!
(So did Morrissey in his late teens/early 20s when he was reading The Murderers' Who's Who; I was going to say maybe it's what inspired his Dennis Nilsen hairstyle back then but Nilsen hadn't been caught yet, so it was just a coincidence.) I mostly hung around the Zodiac Killer forum without ever posting because they didn't seem welcoming to newcomers. Most of them had been on the case for years and didn't have time for new people coming in when they had just watched the film 'Zodiac', asking beginners' questions. There was even a rumour going around at the time that Britney Spears had taken an interest in the Zodiac case and was trying to solve it!
I had started off by reading about as many serial killers as possible but after reading half of 'The Stranger Beside Me' by Ann Rule I realised that serial killers with obvious sexual motives weren't that interesting to me. So from then on I focused mainly on The Zodiac Killer and Jack the Ripper, also because they had never been caught there was plenty of mystery and intrigue associated with them that you don't get when reading about the crimes - and looking at the grotesque visage - of Dennis Rader, for example.
The Zodiac Killer suspect I settled on was Lawrence Kane (the name 'Kane' was discovered in the Zodiac cipher in which the killer said he would reveal his identity). Kane was still alive when I started reading the forum which meant it didn't seem like a 'historical' case like Jack the Ripper and so I remember there was a feeling of excitement/nervous tension (in me) that he might be monitoring the forum too -- which seems highly unlikely now considering he was already in his mid-80s at that stage.
There was someone called 'Sandy' on the forum who was in her 60s or 70s and claimed she had been stalked by Kane for decades and recounted all the details of what had gone on.
For anyone who's interested, I know Verso is for sure: I now believe that The Zodiac Killer and Jack The Ripper were both Jewish. Zodiac = Lawrence Kane (Klein), Jack the Ripper = Aaron Kosminski. Their M.O. is a Jewish M.O. to me, think David Berkowitz. The lack of a blatant recognisable sexual component is a main factor, which isn't to say there wasn't a sexual motivation just not in the upfront way we associate with the majority of serial killers. That isn't an angle that the experts consider of course, although Kosminski has become a favourite Jack the Ripper suspect (a David Wilson documentary that I watched a few months ago singled Kosminski out as the likeliest suspect), while Kane as Zodiac is considered an outside bet to most, probably the 4th or 5th favourite suspect.
This is only tangentially related - I'll never have another opportunity to mention it - but a couple of years ago I had a lengthy argument on Twitter with Adam Goldberg (undoubtedly a close personal friend of Verso's; invited round to his place for dinner parties all the time), who I thought was just a run-of-the-mill podcaster. After about the tenth tweet I googled his name and saw that he had played 'Eddie' on Friends and also starred in Zodiac. I complimented him on the film which he was thankful for (or bemused about, I can't remember) and it terminated our debate. I inquired about him finding me a job in Hollywood but he didn't seem receptive to the idea and we went our separate ways, LOL! (I mean, I liked the film aside from the last part where it settles on Arthur Leigh Allen as its primary suspect and doesn't consider any other possibilities from what I recall. They really captured the '70s feel, though.)
My only worthwhile posts are the ones where I praise Rifke effusively; you should get used to it because this is now a Rifke Stan account. You were the one who encouraged me to start posting with this account instead of anonymously; aren't you getting what you wanted? It could even be stated that through that encouragement, in a roundabout way, you were the one who brought Rifke and me together as we couldn't connect in the same way when I was anonymous. Now she has made my life so glamorous, you can't blame me for feeling amorous. 'S wonderful and you should be happy about this turn of events instead of acting like a #sadlittleman, Dave! Her and my favourite Bowie album is 1. Outside, do you realise how rare it is for two people to meet each other whose favourite Bowie album is 1. Outside??! Can you even begin to comprehend what a one in a million chance that is?? Around the time that I saw Rifke write that, it began to dawn on me that she is the Queen
. Now I'm steadfast and unshakeable in this view, so you can say goodbye to whatever you thought 'Born to Harangue' was because I'm now devoted to Rifke!
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