Poll: Morrissey's best solo co-writer is...?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SuedeMoz, Jan 10, 2019.

?

Who is/was Morrissey's Best SOLO Co-Writer (min of 4 songs written with Morrissey)?

  1. Stephen Street

    8 vote(s)
    15.4%
  2. Mark E. Nevin

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Alain Whyte

    28 vote(s)
    53.8%
  4. Boz Boorer

    11 vote(s)
    21.2%
  5. Jesse Tobias

    4 vote(s)
    7.7%
  6. Gustavo Manzur

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  1. SuedeMoz

    SuedeMoz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2013
    Messages:
    958
    Location:
    Asda Town
    Note: The poll contains co-writers who've written 4 or more songs with Morrissey, so Andy Rourke, Clive Langer, Spencer Cobrin, etc. are excluded. Please cast your vote and comment below.

    UPDATE: over 1,000 views on this thread but under 50 votes so far ... PLEASE vote if you haven't so we'll get more statistically relevant results.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2019
  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    For me, Boz Boorer just edging out Stephen Street.
    The worst of these is Jesse Tobias by a country mile.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    All of 'em!
     
    • Insightful Insightful x 1
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Absolute bollocks!




    Also, go and listen to his and Morrissey's tracks on World Peace.
     
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
    • Insightful Insightful x 1
  5. SuedeMoz

    SuedeMoz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2013
    Messages:
    958
    Location:
    Asda Town
    I voted for Alain based on quantity (and quality of course) of material. However, I think if Stephen Street had done more collaborations with Morrissey he might've been a strong contender.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  6. Thewlis

    Thewlis Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2006
    Messages:
    1,498
    Stephen, Alain, Boz.
     
  7. Lustman

    Lustman Active Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2015
    Messages:
    166
    Stephen "vini Reilly" Street
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  8. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Alain wrote nearly 70 songs for Morrissey.
    15 or so really were great but the other 50 ranged from passable to absolutely dismal.
    Nowhere near the quality of the Stephen Street compositions.
    In the biggest poll ever of all 300 songs that Morrissey sang, there wasn't a single Alain Whyte composition in the top 20. Says it all really. He just didn't quite have that magical songwriting ability. Good to great at his very best but never exceptional.
     
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
  9. Oh my god. it's Robby!

    Oh my god. it's Robby! spontaneously luminescent

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2006
    Messages:
    25,171
    Location:
    Canada adjacent
    somebody voted for Jesse :laughing:
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Mr. Jackpots

    Mr. Jackpots a dilettante and a slut

    Joined:
    May 26, 2017
    Messages:
    724
    I couldn't pick between Street and Whyte but if I had to I'd say Whyte.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  11. MozIsGod

    MozIsGod Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2006
    Messages:
    626
    Total bollocks. Who cares about polls? And I'd love to see your "absolutely dismal" Whyte numbers. "Sorrow Will Come In The End" is the only true dismal Whyte co-write and it isn't even his fault. "Life is a Pigsty" ranks in my top 10 solo songs (top 20 if you include Smiths).
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2019
  12. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Here we have the 30 greatest Morrissey-sung songs (i.e. including Smiths) in the biggest poll ever conducted (with tens of thousands of votes cast). And how many Alain Whyte songs? Just one. www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/the-moz-smiths-top-100-final-results-2014.133795/

    Says it all, really. Alain was the master of the quite good song but hardly ever reached the top level of songwriting excellence. He actually wrote one more song for Morrissey than Johnny Marr ever did, and to have just one composition make the top 30 is shocking stuff.

    The worst songs Morrissey ever sang (e.g. Roy's Keane, Father must be Killed, Dagenham Dave, most of Southpaw Grammar) were nearly all Morrissey/Whyte compositions. At his very best, yes, a few songs did indeed deserve places on the albums but he should he never really have been the main songwriter.

    Of the top 30, 22 were by Johnny Marr, 4 by Stephen Street, 3 by Boorer, 1 by Whyte.

    1 There Is A Light That Never Goes Out (1986), average rating: 9,87
    2 I Know It’s Over (1986) 9,57
    3 Still Ill (1984) 9,56
    4 Everyday Is Like Sunday (1988) 9,53
    5 Speedway (1994) 9,53
    6 Now My Heart Is Full (1994) 9,52
    7 Suedehead (1988) 9,52
    8 Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want (1984) 9,52
    9 This Charming Man (1983) 9,50
    10 The Queen Is Dead (1986) 9,50
    11 The Headmaster Ritual (1985) 9,47
    12 The Last Of The Famous International Playboys (1989) 9,44
    13 Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me (1987) 9,42
    14 Why Don’t You Find Out For Yourself (1994) 9,41
    15 Reel Around The Fountain (1984) 9,41
    16 Panic (1985) 9,40
    17 The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (1985) 9,40
    18 Rubber Ring (1985) 9,39
    19 That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore (1985) 9,36
    20 Stop Me If You Think You’ve Heard This One Before (1987) 9,35
    21 Bigmouth Strikes Again (1986) 9,34
    22 How Soon Is Now? (1984) 9,32
    23 Well I Wonder (1985) 9,31
    24 Hand In Glove (1983) 9,30
    25 Shoplifters Of The World Unite (1987) 9,28
    26 Jack The Ripper (1992) 9.28
    27 Cemetry Gates (1986) 9,27
    28 William It Was Really Nothing (1984) 9,26
    29 Late Night, Maudlin Street (1988) 9,19
    30 Half A Person (1987) 9,15
     
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
  13. MozIsGod

    MozIsGod Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2006
    Messages:
    626
    First you said Alain didn't have a single co-write in the top 20. Then we find out he had a top #14. Epic fail. And why no Pigsty, Irish Blood, or Alma Matters in the top 20? This is why I could care less about the poll. Use YOUR ears, not someone else's opinion.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  14. mcrickson

    mcrickson Reckless Endangerment

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    6,185
    So it's your opinion that Alain is the best co-writer. And it's all these people's opinions that he's not. It's almost as if this is an opinion poll or something.
     
  15. MozIsGod

    MozIsGod Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2006
    Messages:
    626
    I never claimed Alain was the best co-writer. It's just unwise to conclude that he was a poor songwriter simply because he didn't have a certain number of songs in a top whatever poll as the anonymous argued.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  16. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Remember when the experts said Hillary Clinton was going to win the 2016 U.S. presidential election based on the polls? Lol
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. this is easy to know

    BEST

    BOZ
    JESSE
    GUSTAVO

    WORSE

    Alain Twat:pileofpoop:
    Mr Cometry
    :handpointright::guardsman::handpointleft:
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  18. Peppermint

    Peppermint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2017
    Messages:
    3,273
    Jesse, I suspect.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  19. Oh my god. it's Robby!

    Oh my god. it's Robby! spontaneously luminescent

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2006
    Messages:
    25,171
    Location:
    Canada adjacent
    its up to 2 now :eek:
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  20. Peppermint

    Peppermint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2017
    Messages:
    3,273
    Jesse's mother
     
    • Funny Funny x 4
    • Insightful Insightful x 1
Loading...

Share This Page