Police investigating sex attack

[Peppermint]

Whoever the 'culprit' turns out to be is quite meaningless, because how can the claim of an incident in a hotel toilet 10 years ago ever be proved to have really taken place?

Malicious claims must happen all the time.

Unless, as I mentioned earlier, the article is fishing for others to come forward. A string of complaints with notable similarities is what usually nails these people.

 

[Halloway]

"Oh let me get my hands on your testicular glands..."

 

[vegan cro spirit 222]

According to Celebrity Net Worth.com Mike Joyce the Mancunian drummer's net worth is currently $8 million:

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/mike-joyce-net-worth/

Cha-ching!

Mike Joyce's financial wealth is all thanks to Morrissey and Johnny Marr.

It's confusing on Celebrity Net Worth.com Mike Joyce comes under 'rock stars' but Johnny Marr comes under 'actors' ?

whatever monies Flat Top Mike has scammed, it aint from working, thats for sure.
Its from squeezing poor Moz.

that worthless twat never has earned a simple quid in his miserable life.

 

[E Scott]

No way is Moz a sex pest. This is the most absurd thread to date.

 

[reelfountain]

Unless, as I mentioned earlier, the article is fishing for others to come forward. A string of complaints with notable similarities is what usually nails these people.

Remember Cliff Richard. It was all bull.

 

[Anonymous]

Btw, the silhouette in that Sun article is of Kevin Spacey, from a photo very similar to this one https://www.wmagazine.com/story/kevin-spacey-let-me-be-frank-youtube-video

You've just ruined a lot of people's day.
See how easily the mind can be controlled.
Well done, sir/madam

 

[Born]

What a crock. If he was assaulted in 2009 then he should have reported it in 2009--not ten years later. This goes for any victim--both men and women.

So I'm sure you said the same thing about Christine Blasey Ford along with the women who were accusing Trump of sexual assault?

 

[Surface]

No way is Moz a sex pest. This is the most absurd thread to date.

I’m in the same boat, I disagree with a lot of shit he spouts nowadays but i don’t think he is/was daft enough to expose himself to this sort of bollocks!!

 

[vegan cro spirit 222]

would scare the bejesus of anyone in the mens room, just with the botox and the wig, so no way it could
be him.

You are free to go, DramaJ

 

[bhops]

okay, so it's probably not Morrissey. whew. not that it would have changed my opinion of him in the slightest, I dont think for one second there's any darkness or deviance lurking in him, but im relieved for him if it isn't.

but what I was thinking last night is how the f*** something like this would be seen as psychologically traumatizing, especially if it were just a blunder where the other man thought he would be into it and turns out he wasn't, which is what this sounds like. a thing like this is psychologically traumatizing when it has attachments like: it was done by someone in power to belittle you; or it was done in public to humiliate you; or it was done repeatedly so as to affect your mindset and your self esteem. accidentally mistaking the wants of someone else resulting in a surprise groin groping, is not in itself traumatic. now, im a rather prudish girl. I dont like sex. I blush easily. but when I was in paris I was molested countless times (I think Parisians can spot a tourist and tend to go for them because they think they might be easier that Parisian women? that's my theory anyway, and in my only-worn-in-Canada goretex ski parka I stood out as a tourist from a mile away); i mean, boundaries were way overstepped-- in words, in touches. I never gave the go ahead for any of it. but when I told them I wasn't having it, they stopped. and I understood they had acted out of a place of thinking I was okay with it. so was I traumatized? no, not in the slightest. I laughed. I knew I would have a funny story to tell. this "victim" needs someone to give him a good slap upside the head and tell him to grow the f*** up. all he is doing by "coming forward" is trivializing real incidents of traumatic sexual assault, and making it very hard to exist as a sexual being, who as such might occasionally make blunders, in this society.

You and I are in agreement for once. Over the years I have been groped by men and women, usually in places such as bars and clubs where some level of intoxication is concerned (and may well have been the case with this story) and I have a kinda general rule, if I ask them to stop and they do, no harm no foul. Sometimes signals do get mixed, sometimes people just misjudge a moment, it happens. I don't feel #metoo'ed by those moments.

If however I was to ask said person to stop and they don't, then we have a problem.

If someone is claiming a groin grab from a decade ago is still causing them some type of trauma then that says more about the person than the incident IMHO.

For my money, and based on the balance of probabilities I think Moz is hot in the running for this story, especially as George is out of the running. The argument seems to be 'well they are saying he is a household name and known to millions so it can't be Moz.' Stop to remember newspapers especially tabloids trade in hyperbole. Moz to an extent is still very famous in the UK, he does have name recognition and if totaled up around the worlds people who count themselves as either Smiths or Morrissey fans would run into the millions.

Just for a bit of fun if someone can post a poll vote for 5 likeliest suspects. The only two that spring to my mind are Moz and Boy George at this particular moment.

 

[Anonymous]

You and I are in agreement for once. Over the years I have been groped by men and women, usually in places such as bars and clubs where some level of intoxication is concerned (and may well have been the case with this story) and I have a kinda general rule, if I ask them to stop and they do, no harm no foul. Sometimes signals do get mixed, sometimes people just misjudge a moment, it happens. I don't feel #metoo'ed by those moments.

If however I was to ask said person to stop and they don't, then we have a problem.

If someone is claiming a groin grab from a decade ago is still causing them some type of trauma then that says more about the person than the incident IMHO.

For my money, and based on the balance of probabilities I think Moz is hot in the running for this story, especially as George is out of the running. The argument seems to be 'well they are saying he is a household name and known to millions so it can't be Moz.' Stop to remember newspapers especially tabloids trade in hyperbole. Moz to an extent is still very famous in the UK, he does have name recognition and if totaled up around the worlds people who count themselves as either Smiths or Morrissey fans would run into the millions.

Just for a bit of fun if someone can post a poll vote for 5 likeliest suspects. The only two that spring to my mind are Moz and Boy George at this particular moment.

I for one has been waiting for this kind of story to pop up since Moz dared to be anything but PC and voice his opinion. It's funny that some believe that traumas are kept for ages cause that only applies to kids according to research not that skinny in any way has ever dealt with what you call science as he bases everything on how he feels about it.

When the heart rules the mind then making soap becomes science and yet the bloke lives in a muslim enclave with his head in the sand playing songs on his guitar like a true muppet.

Everything he did in life ended in failure so no one is surprised that he is bitter and he wears his bitterness on his sleeve.

Knowledge is there for everyone these days but the socialists have never liked facts and science and reality so they keep perfecting that bubble that they eventually die in.

 

[Anonymous]

Also I seem to remember reading about Moz's time in Rome where by all accounts he would get pissed and a bit handsy.

Yes, I recall something like that too. Anyone know where it's from?

 

[Anonymous]

Horseshit. People live with the fear, shame and stigma years after. Like a lot of Weinstein's victims.

On which point...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42050512

At least try to post something that is expected from a man of science and not sound like a yob in every bloody post. I am amazed no one has dealt with you in the rudest manner but you sure felt afraid when those UKIP lads showed up at your door to hand you leaflet.

Why it wasn't a bomb no one will ever know.....

 

[Anonymous]

Gay people always end up in trouble related to their sexuality. The presence of paedophilia and perverted ideas and views is there for all to see and many in the gay community openly support sexual abuse in various ways.

A catholic gay man is forced to hide his sexuality which in the end becomes too much of a burden and so they act out and pay for it and most often when they are quite old like Moz himself.

Maybe Morrissey was the victim of sexual abuse from catholic priests?

 

[Anonymous]

I'm inclined to agree. I was sexually assaulted about 25 years ago by someone I thought was a doctor. I was at my (then) boyfriend's house, and had a very minor stomach complaint. He phoned the out of hours doctor for advice, nothing more; so we were both a bit surprised when a doctor - complete with black bag - showed up at the house. He wasted no time in shooing my boyfriend out of the room, then gave me the works: rubber gloves front and back; he even got me to take my bra off while he listened to my chest. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I was quite young and I just thought, well, he's a doctor. I would like to think I'd be wiser now...

Some years later there was a piece in the local paper about a man who had been convicted for intercepting calls to doctors out of hours services with some listening device, and turning up at patients' houses claiming to be a doctor. It was only then that I realised what had happened. Was I traumatised? Emphatically not. Violated, certainly, and more than a bit creeped out. But I can't say it's affect my life in any way.

If the description of what happened to this 'victim' is accurate, I find it very difficult to believe they are 'traumatised'. Absolutely, they have a right to think, 'Why should you do that to me and get away with it?' But talk of 'trauma' is dishonest, and like you say, it trivialises real incidents of assault. This is about extorting money, pure and simple.

I’m sorry that happened to you. However I can’t believe you are using how that incident of sexual abuse didn’t traumatize you to rationalize this particular accusation just because Moz might be involved!

 

[Anonymous]

I'm inclined to agree. I was sexually assaulted about 25 years ago by someone I thought was a doctor. I was at my (then) boyfriend's house, and had a very minor stomach complaint. He phoned the out of hours doctor for advice, nothing more; so we were both a bit surprised when a doctor - complete with black bag - showed up at the house. He wasted no time in shooing my boyfriend out of the room, then gave me the works: rubber gloves front and back; he even got me to take my bra off while he listened to my chest. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I was quite young and I just thought, well, he's a doctor. I would like to think I'd be wiser now...

Some years later there was a piece in the local paper about a man who had been convicted for intercepting calls to doctors out of hours services with some listening device, and turning up at patients' houses claiming to be a doctor. It was only then that I realised what had happened. Was I traumatised? Emphatically not. Violated, certainly, and more than a bit creeped out. But I can't say it's affect my life in any way.

If the description of what happened to this 'victim' is accurate, I find it very difficult to believe they are 'traumatised'. Absolutely, they have a right to think, 'Why should you do that to me and get away with it?' But talk of 'trauma' is dishonest, and like you say, it trivialises real incidents of assault. This is about extorting money, pure and simple.

Oh Peppermint that was very uncomfortable reading.
Sending you a massive hug

Benny-the-British-Butcher

 

[Anonymous]

I’m sorry that happened to you. However I can’t believe you are using how that incident of sexual abuse didn’t traumatize you to rationalize this particular accusation just because Moz might be involved!

She did to explain what an idiot skinny is. Look at you who never had any experience of it having a go at a victim not willing to wear the victim cardigan and be proud about it.

People like you only like losers like yourself.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

I think Morrissey is regretting that he was neither perpetrator or victim.

 

[Anonymous]

Was George Michael alive still?

 

[Anonymous]

Feels safe that Sting and his band are investigating this. An englishman in crowbar hotel.