Odd Questions, perhaps, re Morrissey's Development

rifke said:
ket :(

you know which neil i mean, and his neck is nowhere near as saggy as neil youngs. :(
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Neil Young’s young neck wasn’t saggy though. And don’t worry, all young dreamboats sag eventually. :(
 
Ketamine Sun said:
Neil Young’s young neck wasn’t saggy though. And don’t worry, all young dreamboats sag eventually. :(
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dreamyneils neck has already started to sag!!! if i could post picture from instagram i could show you! it's cute though. neil will always be cute. skin may go, but bone structure is indestructible.
 
Catholic said:
I shall stress: very grateful indeed for this thread, which I'm still digesting.

Real gifts to me here. Thank you Vex but others too.
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I certainly have no issue with you, as you’re a fellow Catholic… not that I would anyway. I definitely had no mean-spirited intentions when I started responding, but Vex and I approach Morrissey very differently than one another. I definitely don’t agree with her on certain things regarding Morrissey. It’s just the way things are.

For one thing, I think in her pursuit to show compassion to Morrissey, that she infantilizes an almost 63 year old man.
 
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Redacted said:
The pile on here was rather unfortunate, I did think you were being provided with reasonable responses from Vex, along with substantial material to back up those answers. I really wish some people would just let others converse and go to the off topic section if they really need to be so rude and inconsiderate. Rifke and I did get sidetracked by Neil, sorry about that, but he is dreamy.
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I never started a pile on…. I responded to her a few times and then I put her on ignore because my patience had run out. Her and I view Morrissey differently than one another. And yes, she projects this idea that because she reads interviews over and over again that she possesses a greater understanding of him, which I personally don’t believe that she has.
I still maintain, that she has plenty of confirmation bias, regarding him.

And yes, I did say a couple of things I should’ve refrained from saying, that might be construed as being unnecessarily harsh to her, that I admit.
 
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rifke said:
dreamyneils neck has already started to sag!!! if i could post picture from instagram i could show you! it's cute though. neil will always be cute. skin may go, but bone structure is indestructible.
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you have to copy and paste and omit the space to see it but heres some neil skin sag!!!!

https: //www.instagram.com/p/CPs6Rw-Aqjm/
 
Flora Fauna said:
I never started a pile on…. I responded to her a few times and then I put her on ignore because my patience had run out. Her and I view Morrissey differently than one another. And yes, she projects this idea that because she reads interviews over and over again that she possesses a greater understanding of him, which I personally don’t believe that she has.
I still maintain, that she has plenty of confirmation bias, regarding him.

And yes, I did say a couple of things I should’ve refrained from saying that might be construed as being unnecessarily harsh to her, that I admit.
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I don't know Vex, I don't know anyone here. I am newly registered but I have been coming here off and on posting as Anon for years, but only staying for short periods of time, this is the longest I have stayed.
Pile ons happen here a lot and I think they are completely unecessary. That being said, I am not totally innocent either, I get it. I don't think you started it but I think you participated. I have also gotten so annoyed at people here I have said things I probably shouldn't have said, I don't regret saying them but I just shouldn't have.
There are people here I definitely do not like and never will.
I don't have any issues with you at all, what I really have an issue with is that someone tried to start a thread to discuss something and it went this way. This same person tried to start a convo in another area of the site tonite and someone decided it would be a good idea to troll that.
It's getting really hard to have conversations here. The things you and I have said are nothing compared to some of the other things said here, it's really obnoxious.
So, I was not trying to single you out, sorry if it looked that way. There are just some people here who go out of their way to be jerks.
I hate Marr, probably always will now, wasn't always that way, I get attacked for it, it's just stupid. I got called a c*** and worse, for not liking Marr.
This is my really long way of saying I am tired of some of the site issues and some of the people here. I think you make good contributions and I hope you enjoy your time here. Using Ignore is probably the best we can do.
 
unlike nerak with mozzer, i dont pretend/need to understand neil. i just know he's like a delicate flower, made to be loved and adored and not roughly handled. that's cause im zen :cool:
 
Redacted said:
I don't know Vex, I don't know anyone here. I am newly registered but I have been coming here off and on posting as Anon for years, but only staying for short periods of time, this is the longest I have stayed.
Pile ons happen here a lot and I think they are completely unecessary. That being said, I am not totally innocent either, I get it. I don't think you started it but I think you participated. I have also gotten so annoyed at people here I have said things I probably shouldn't have said, I don't regret saying them but I just shouldn't have.
There are people here I definitely do not like and never will.
I don't have any issues with you at all, what I really have an issue with is that someone tried to start a thread to discuss something and it went this way. This same person tried to start a convo in another area of the site tonite and someone decided it would be a good idea to troll that.
It's getting really hard to have conversations here. The things you and I have said are nothing compared to some of the other things said here, it's really obnoxious.
So, I was not trying to single you out, sorry if it looked that way. There are just some people here who go out of their way to be jerks.
I hate Marr, probably always will now, wasn't always that way, I get attacked for it, it's just stupid. I got called a c*** and worse, for not liking Marr.
This is my really long way of saying I am tired of some of the site issues and some of the people here. I think you make good contributions and I hope you enjoy your time here. Using Ignore is probably the best we can do.
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I’m new here as well. And the same to you🙂

If there is someone I don’t want to engage with…I’m likely not going to engage with them at all.
I don’t have any issue with the original poster at all, but regarding Vex… it’s more complicated than that.
Even though, definitely, I have no animosity toward her… she is someone I have to tune out, because I have issues with how she approaches Morrissey. It’s as simple as that.

I’ve seen some of your Johnny Marr stuff…
I don’t feel as harshly as you do against him, but I do dislike the solo stuff that I’ve had the misfortune of having to listen to.

I do love his musical contributions regarding The Smiths; Both he and Morrissey made beautiful, beguiling music together. It’s tragic and unsettling where their relationship is at now.
 
rifke said:
unlike nerak with mozzer, i dont pretend/need to understand neil.
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Yes, but then again, does Neil have a mind like Morrissey’s ?
rifke said:
i just know he's like a delicate flower, made to be loved and adored and not roughly handled. that's cause im zen :cool:
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I think Vex may feel the same way about Morrissey. You two have more in common than you think.
 
Ketamine Sun said:
Yes, but then again, does Neil have a mind like Morrissey’s ?
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neil is more mysterious, so much more mysterious!!!!! and i dont mind, i like it that way!!!
Ketamine Sun said:
I think Vex may feel the same way about Morrissey. You two have more in common than you think.
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well it's not like im about to make myself traceable to neil, ket!!!!! im only writing a book about him which im going to dedicate to him, because that's the way these things are done!!! making yourself traceable, pfft. whoever heard of such a thing??
 
rifke said:
neil is more mysterious, so much more mysterious!!!!! and i dont mind, i like it that way!!!
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don’t worry, it’ll stay that way. ;)
rifke said:
well it's not like im about to make myself traceable to neil, ket!!!!! im only writing a book about him which im going to dedicate to him, because that's the way these things are done!!! making yourself traceable, pfft. whoever heard of such a thing??
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what if he arrived at your door one day? you wouldn’t dare answer!
 
Flora Fauna said:
I’m new here as well. And the same to you🙂

If there is someone I don’t want to engage with…I’m likely not going to engage with them at all.
I don’t have any issue with the original poster at all, but regarding Vex… it’s more complicated than that.
Even though, definitely, I have no animosity toward her… she is someone I have to tune out, because I have issues with how she approaches Morrissey. It’s as simple as that.

I’ve seen some of your Johnny Marr stuff…
I don’t feel as harshly as you do against him, but I do dislike the solo stuff that I’ve had the misfortune of having to listen to.

I do love his musical contributions regarding The Smiths; Both he and Morrissey made beautiful, beguiling music together. It’s tragic and unsettling where their relationship is at now.
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We all have our likes and dislikes regarding people and other things.
There are people I do not engage with as well, they are on ignore.
As far as Marr goes, I find his behavior abhorrent, not just toward M but even his own fans, and the Rick Astley thing was the final straw.
 
rifke said:
'course i would!!! are you kidding me?!! do you think it'll happen, ket?!!!
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Well, you won’t find out, if you never finish writing that book! I mean, how else would he trace you?
rifke said:
should i make more of an effort not to wear pajamas with ice creams stains down the top at all times when im home?!?
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Ah! the mystery there will no longer be, when he informs you that he likes to wear ice cream at home too!
 
rifke said:
what should i say to him if he comes to my door, ket?!! should i say "i know you! You're that guy from suede!!"
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You won’t need to. I’m sure that’s the first thing he’ll say to you.
 
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