Obama drops out of his entirely normal, mainstream church

Theo

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Well, entirely normal is how SoLow's Obama shills such as Worm described this black supremacist, racist church.

Obama had been a member for 20 years. He was married there. He had his children baptized there. He handed the church thousands of dollars out of his own pocket. He considered the wacko Rev. Jeremiah Wright his spiritual advisor and close personal friend. And now we have another kook who spewed a bunch of hate speech at the church, Michael Pfleger. Another friend of Obama's. Worked on Obama's campaign. Also a friend and admiror of the hardcore racist Farrakhan. Which is no surprise, as Wright is fond of Farrakhan as well, and Obama's church honored Farrakhan as some sort of great man. Michael Pfleger's hate speech was not just racist but also sexist. Just what sort of a "Christian" is this Barry Obama, and why was he so fucking stupid that he sat in such a wacked out church for 20 years and thought it was cool? Some of us accused Obama of being a biracial man who felt he had to prove he was "black enough" to succeed in Chicago's politics, and perhaps that helps explain it?

Obama won't answer for all of this. He won't even condemn specific statements by the nutters who spew their racist, sexist hate speech at the church he has been an intimate member of for decades. This is a church that accuses whitey of spreading AIDS, as just one example.

I think the IRS should revoke this church's tax exempt status, and I think Barry Obama should be far more open about what exactly he condemns and what he approves of. This is a candidate who is largely a media created myth whom we barely know. I used to think he was a well-brought up young man, but he was brought up by his grandma and he now refers to her as a "typical white person" simply because she gets alarmed when some degenerate crack dealer is walking down her block. I don't know if I'm the sort of white person Obama considers a "typical white person," but I do know that out of all the churches in the Chicago area Obama could've chosen, he chose a disgusting, racist church that has pimps instead of pastors.
 
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Theo

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I would be very surprised if he's ever given it a thought. What do you imagine?

I imagine I'll be voting McCain in November. I love this country far too much to take a chance on this Hussein Obama character. One of the reasons I used to seriously consider him a candidate I could vote for despite his socialistic "Big Plans" that make me shudder was cuz he used to talk strong about the Iranian threat. But now he's revealed he can't be trusted on that. I also feared the GOP would nominate some loon like Romney, but that didn't happen.

Obama also cannot explain why he voted against John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, because of course the only reason he voted against such a completely qualified nominee was for partisan political reasons, which was an abuse of his vote as a U.S. Senator. Obama does not respect the separation of powers.

BTW, I recall that SoLowers accused Kentucky's Democrat primary voters of being a bunch of redneck racists from the movie Deliverance for voting for Hillary. Do they also consider Puerto Rico's voters a bunch of backwards, ignorant haters of black people?

Anyway, the old, wise, and reasonable war hero, McCain, looks like the safe choice for patriots.
 
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Dave

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Do they also consider Puerto Rico's voters a bunch of backwards, ignorant haters of black people?

For instance
, 44% of Hispanics and 47% of Asians are “generally afraid of African Americans because they are responsible for most of the crime.”

Moreover, the three groups seem more trusting of whites than of each other. The poll found that 61% of Hispanics, 54% of Asians and 47% of African Americans would rather do business with whites than members of the other two groups.


Anyway, the old, wise, and reasonable war hero, McCain, looks like the safe choice for patriots.
You're lying. You called him a "hothead" war hero not long ago.
 
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Dave

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Here's the deal. Hillary and McCain are both proven crooks. McCain uses the term "gook" unapologetically. He may have good psychological reason for his racism, but that doesn't make it acceptable for a US President to speak that way.

So, while Obama undeniably has his issues, at this point he's the best bet.
 

Theo

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Here's the deal. Hillary and McCain are both proven crooks. McCain uses the term "gook" unapologetically. He may have good psychological reason for his racism, but that doesn't make it acceptable for a US President to speak that way.

So, while Obama undeniably has his issues, at this point he's the best bet.


McCain hates the enemies of this country and fought in the armed forces against them. Obama routinely attacks our allies, wants to kiss ass with our enemies, and never served in the armed forces. No wonder Obama is the candidate al Qaeda, Hamas, and the Iranian regime are rooting for. I'm going with the candidate the worst evils on earth are hoping loses, but that's just me. McCain was the fave Republican of the Democratic Party for years (in fact, John Kerry tried to persuade him to be his VP candidate), so it's not like you can make him out as some sort of extremist. He's a reasonable, centrist man who has the wisdom of old age and doesn't wanna do anything nutty. He also has proven that he places his country above his own life, which is something - needless to say - Obama has never done.
 
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Theo

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For instance
, 44% of Hispanics and 47% of Asians are “generally afraid of African Americans because they are responsible for most of the crime.”

Moreover, the three groups

Hey, dummy, "hispanic" ain't a "group" at all. It's an entirely fictional label made up for political reasons that includes a wide diversity of people from various national origins that have very little in common with each other. I'm talking about Puerto Ricans.


"I'm not Hispanic" -- El Vez, the Mexican-American opening act of Moz some years back
 
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Dave

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McCain hates the enemies of this country and fought in the armed forces against them. Obama routinely attacks our allies, wants to kiss ass with our enemies, and never served in the armed forces. No wonder Obama is the candidate al Qaeda, Hamas, and the Iranian regime are rooting for. I'm going with the candidate the worst evils on earth are hoping loses, but that's just me. McCain was the fave Republican of the Democratic Party for years (in fact, John Kerry tried to persuade him to be his VP candidate), so it's not like you can make him out as some sort of extremist. He's a reasonable, centrist man who has the wisdom of old age and doesn't wanna do anything nutty. He also has proven that he places his country above his own life, which is something - needless to say - Obama has never done.
You called McCain a hothead. Now you're calling him reasonable. At that point your game is over. You can heap on as much other nonsense as you want, but it's important to appear to believe it.
 

Theo

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You called McCain a hothead. Now you're calling him reasonable. At that point your game is over. You can heap on as much other nonsense as you want, but it's important to appear to believe it.
That was in comparison to who I was rooting for in the GOP nomination process. As things stand now, McCain is the most reasonable, safest candidate left. If you check my message history you will find I was very happy that the GOP rejected the nutters of their party and that I felt a McCain vs Obama race would be very healthy for America as they were both respectable candidates on a personal level. Obama hasn't lived up to his hype, however. A media created myth, nothing more. A lot of us would now like to see Obama forced to be quizzed on basic facts of American and world history and see if he actually has a brain in his head at all.

It's funny how I used to get routinely attacked on SoLow for attacking the Clintons, but now some of the very same people who used to tell me I shouldn't be posting, say, PJ O'Rourke's hilarious review of Hillary's book are now saying they absolutely despise the Clintons. It's about time SoLowers caught up with me on the Clintons. I hope it doesn't take them so long on this Hussein Obama character, the next Jimmy Carter if he actually got elected (I trust he will be rejected).
 
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Dave

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Hey, dummy, "hispanic" ain't a "group" at all. It's an entirely fictional label made up for political reasons that includes a wide diversity of people from various national origins that have very little in common with each other. I'm talking about Puerto Ricans.
No need for personal attacks. Look up "Puerto Rico racism". For example 81% of Puerto Ricans consider themselves "white". If you have ever seen Spanish language television you'll know that light-skinned people are presented in highly disproportionate numbers, and this appears to be true in Puerto Rico, from what I'm reading. Puerto Rico has an identity crisis, as much of Latin America appears to. Racism exists not just between whites and other groups but within those other groups. Puerto Ricans apparently would rather play up the lighter side of their origins.
 

nugz

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. A lot of us would now like to see Obama forced to be quizzed on basic facts of American and world history and see if he actually has a brain in his head at all.
I'd like to see McCain take that same quiz. I'd like it to look like the scene in Billy Madison, in the school auditorium.
 
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Dave

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That was in comparison to who I was rooting for in the GOP nomination process.
No, it's from this other Obama thread. You need to get over the "reasonable, safe, old" thing. People are leery of both of them for different reasons, so attack Obama but don't try to make McCain seem safe and reasonable or you lose credibility.

On a personal level I have mostly liked him, even admired him to some extent. However, I cannot quite get over the fact he's been going to a black supremacist church for many years, with his kids in tow, to hear hate speech from a pastor he calls his personal spiritual advisor, friend, hero, mentor for 20 years. He lied and claimed, at first, that he'd never been aware of anything controversial about Rev. Wright. Then he tried to compare his white grandma who merely was a little nervous when some gangbangers were walking down the block she was also walking on. Obama then went on about "typical white people." He also still tried to praise Rev. Wright in his "race speech" on such things as Wright's leadership on AIDS --- Hmm, you mean the Rev. Wright who believes - and, more shamefully, used his position as pastor to brainwash others - that the CIA spread AIDS? (If you wanna praise anyone in this world on AIDS, George W. Bush would have to be high on the list, considering he led these great United States to saving millions of lives in Africa while doing more than any other politician in the world about HIV in the Third World.) (Bill Clinton's record with Africa (especially Rwanda) is one of the most shameful things on the USA's record in the last 100 years.)

Everyone knows that if John McCain had gone to a white supremacist church for 20 years, had been taking his children there week after week, had referred to a racist, crackpot, hate-spewing pastor as his spiritual advisor, mentor, and hero, etc etc., and started going on about "typical black people," that McCain would be done sooner than immediately.

So how does one figure out what to make of this? Was Obama just getting into that crazy church because he thought it would help him in the local political scene in Chicago? But then why take his kids there? Why get SO into that church? Was Obama worried he wasn't "black" enough, due to only being half-black, with a black father who was from Kenya and had zero connection to slavery in America, and having gone to a cushy school in Hawaii and Ivy League schools after that? So he had to show he was down with the Farrakhan-esque freaks at that deranged church?

I have been trying to rise above the fray and be open to voting for someone way too close to a socialist for my liking. I don't fear voting for someone for prez who has a lot of different positions than myself, because my understanding of our system has taught me that the prez is not dictator. And I do like him on some issues. Mostly I wanna vote for someone I think is a good person. I still think he's probably a good person in comparison to other politicians at the national level, but who the real Obama is has become more of a mystery. I'm afraid he may not have a long enough record to go on, and the old war hero is looking like the safer choice despite being kind of a hothead. And of course we all know al Qaeda and the Iranian mullahs would prefer we vote for Obama over McCain.

Finally, I do find it disturbing, even creepy, the way so many people have begun literally worshipping Obama. It's extremely unhealthy. He's just a politician. It's best not to look to politicians for hero worship.
 

Theo

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No need for personal attacks. Look up "Puerto Rico racism". For example 81% of Puerto Ricans consider themselves "white". If you have ever seen Spanish language television you'll know that light-skinned people are presented in highly disproportionate numbers, and this appears to be true in Puerto Rico, from what I'm reading. Puerto Rico has an identity crisis, as much of Latin America appears to. Racism exists not just between whites and other groups but within those other groups. Puerto Ricans apparently would rather play up the lighter side of their origins.

Afro-Americans have a whole bunch of issues about lighter-skinned blacks and darker-skinned blacks.

But as for voters in the Democratic Primaries, considering that Hillary has (according to her) gotten more of the popular vote of Democratic Party voters than Obama, where do the accusations on SoLow stand about how anyone who votes for anyone other than Obama is racist against black people (putting aside the fact that Obama is a biracial candidate, not a black candidate)? Are most Democratic Party voters racists?
 
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Dave

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In summary, you are lying about the lie you told. I understand being "contrarian" and enjoy a little of that myself. This site begs for it. In fact, let's not call it lying. That's not exactly accurate and there's no reason to make that sort of comment. Let's say that you are misrepresenting the misrepresentation you made earlier in the thread, which is fair enough, but once the truth is known it can't be unknown.
 
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Dave

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Afro-Americans have a whole bunch of issues about lighter-skinned blacks and darker-skinned blacks.
Agreed, so you see my point.

But as for voters in the Democratic Primaries, considering that Hillary has (according to her) gotten more of the popular vote of Democratic Party voters than Obama, where do the accusations on SoLow stand about how anyone who votes for anyone other than Obama is racist against black people (putting aside the fact that Obama is a biracial candidate, not a black candidate)? Are most Democratic Party voters racists?
Fuck, dude! Are you seriously taking anything she says as even approaching a "fact"? I mean, if it were her or McCain...
 

nugz

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Afro-Americans have a whole bunch of issues about lighter-skinned blacks and darker-skinned blacks.

But as for voters in the Democratic Primaries, considering that Hillary has (according to her) gotten more of the popular vote of Democratic Party voters than Obama, where do the accusations on SoLow stand about how anyone who votes for anyone other than Obama is racist against black people (putting aside the fact that Obama is a biracial candidate, not a black candidate)? Are most Democratic Party voters racists?
yes, according to her. cept, she forgot to count out of country Democrats, Guam, and the caucus states. how convenient.
 

Theo

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No, it's from this other Obama thread. You need to get over the "reasonable, safe, old" thing. People are leery of both of them for different reasons, so attack Obama but don't try to make McCain seem safe and reasonable or you lose credibility.


I don't understand why you posted that excerpt.

I realize some people don't like safe and old. Some people are ageist or just generally don't respect their elders. I happen to respect people who have been around the block a few more times than most of us have. I also am leery of politicans with Big Plans. Like when Hillary Clinton wanted to re-do health care and only made it worse. I think McCain is far less likely to fuck things up than Obama is, and this is one of the things many voters think about before an electio. Perhaps you, a socialist, don't think that way. You want the Big Plans from the federal government. Hell, you're so out there I bet if Obama decided to stick it to the white man with some crazy reparations for slavery, you'd be down.
 
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Dave

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I don't understand why you posted that excerpt.

I realize some people don't like safe and old. Some people are ageist or just generally don't respect their elders. I happen to respect people who have been around the block a few more times than most of us have. I also am leery of politicans with Big Plans. Like when Hillary Clinton wanted to re-do health care and only made it worse. I think McCain is far less likely to fuck things up than Obama is, and this is one of the things many voters think about before an electio. Perhaps you, a socialist, don't think that way. You want the Big Plans from the federal government.
It's not about me or your misrepresentations of me. I posted the excerpt because you claimed to have made the comment about McCain in a different context than you actually made it in.
 
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