November Overlooked A Monster

[Maudlin Street Urchin]

If the subject of this song has "wheels underneath her", then how the f*** does she end up "walking your streets in the clothes that she went out and choose for herself"?

Oh Heavens.

 

[Erik]

> If the subject of this song has "wheels underneath her", then
> how the f*** does she end up "walking your streets in the clothes
> that she went out and choose for herself"?

> Oh Heavens.

"....one fine day let it be soon, she won't be rich or beautiful,
but she'll be walking your streets in the clothes that she went out
and chose for herself"

he is hoping she'll be able to walk

 

[Johnny]

> If the subject of this song has "wheels underneath her", then
> how the f*** does she end up "walking your streets in the clothes
> that she went out and choose for herself"?

> Oh Heavens.

Personally I think "November" is a terrible song and I have never understood Moz's fascination for playing it live when there are scores of other more worthy songs neglected.
As a single it was saved by the wondrous "He Knows I'd Love To See Him"

Lets hope that this "November Spawns a Moz Tour"...now where have I seen that before ?....

 

[Gabriella]

> Personally I think "November" is a terrible song and I have
> never understood Moz's fascination for playing it live when there are
> scores of other more worthy songs neglected.
> As a single it was saved by the wondrous "He Knows I'd Love To See
> Him"

> Lets hope that this "November Spawns a Moz Tour"...now where
> have I seen that before ?....

I love the song, but I think it's allegorical. I'm not claiming to understand it particularly, but I think there's more going on than a crippled girl in a wheelchair. Actually I think when Moz writes about women, he's always writing about himself in some way (same with "Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning.")

 

[Benton]

> If the subject of this song has "wheels underneath her", then
> how the f*** does she end up "walking your streets in the clothes
> that she went out and choose for herself"?

> Oh Heavens.

A very good point

and why bother asking "What difference does it make?" ?

only to answer your own question almost immediately - "it makes none"

is he wasting our time or what?

 

[Shadowplay]

He hopes for her to be better, or in the least, self-sufficient. Majority of the song is about her 'dependancy' on the world around her even though that world doesn't necessarily want her. While the narrator is not particularly 'fond' of her, he also sees the err of his (and society's) way. So in the last verse, not only is her possibility of her independance put forth, but also that she will become part of the society that did not want her. Kinda like a kick in the teeth i guess.

 

[Hanrahahanrahan]

> If the subject of this song has "wheels underneath her", then
> how the f*** does she end up "walking your streets in the clothes
> that she went out and choose for herself"?

She doesn't, Morrissey merely predicts that she will, "one fine day, let it be soon".

 

[Grim O'Grady]

my view of Morrissey's Monsters

My take on it was One November spawned a monster in that it is one November but not one monster & with most of Morrissey's observational lyrics it's the negative side he observes, so that certain sides of society see a monster as someone who isn't rich or beautiful, whilst another side observes someone who is wheelchair user etc etc.

Grim O'Grady

 

[Handsome Stranger]

I agree. I am so sick of hearing this song live. Time to retire it...

 

[Patrick McCann]

Re: my view of Morrissey's Monsters

> My take on it was One November spawned a monster in that it is one
> November but not one monster & with most of Morrissey's observational
> lyrics it's the negative side he observes, so that certain sides of
> society see a monster as someone who isn't rich or beautiful, whilst
> another side observes someone who is wheelchair user etc etc.

> Grim O'Grady

Jesus, Grim. Is it not a bit early to be drinking??

 

[Grim O'Grady]

Re: my view of Morrissey's Monsters

Jesus, Pat. It is never a bit early to be drinking!!