1. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: A nice big boat all stocked up with the finer things in life!

    > Is this a Mark Lamarr - what the hell is wrong with you or just
    > a plain old who is he?

    no, not at all. frankly, i can see it. i remember he came to orientation week at U. of Glasgow, but i was in a bad spot to hear him that well.

    what has he done since shooting stars?

    > Ah but you're forgetting Titanic,

    i'm the last person, outside of a tribe of bedouins in the Gobi, who hasn't seen this movie.

    >he was also in Orlando with
    > Tilda Swinton,

    never saw this movie

    >posse,

    another one i haven't seen.

    >and well phantom may have been a bit of a
    > sh1t film but to see him in a lycra body suit was sooooo worth
    > it!!

    and technically, i've never seen the Phantom either. it was playing at the theater i was working at that summer.

    i think the only work of his i've seen is him in some ads for milk with him wearing a milk moustache.

    >I think he is quite astoundingly beautiful he quite
    > frightens me, in the best possible way of course...

    isn't it cool? really hot looking actors are great. you can think whatever you want to about them since you know you'll never meet them.

    > Well when I'm through doing my degree I should be able to help -
    > talk you through stuff, all because I like the way you think and
    > know how frustrating it is to be constantly defiled by
    > nincompoops who expect you to feign interest in their vapid
    > beliefs and be grateful they took their precious time to
    > undermine you, bore you, and rip you off.

    i know exactly what the problem is: windows 98 is a piece of @#!!!. if they had not created Internet Explorer in the way that they did, life would be good.

    i have "lunch" written all over me, and Lord knows what i can do about it.

    > reasonable people unite and take over!

    all 5 of us!!!! woohoo!
     
  2. Cinderella

    Cinderella Guest

    Re: The 50's Throw back...

    > no, not at all. frankly, i can see it. i remember he came to
    > orientation week at U. of Glasgow, but i was in a bad spot to
    > hear him that well.

    > what has he done since shooting stars?

    'Never mind the Buzzcocks', 'leaving the 21st Century', he's just finished a tour of GB. I know he had a show on radio two 'Shake Rattle and Roll' - Playing...50's music!

    I only watched Titanic because, 1. Since childhood I've had this obssesion with titanic, mary rose, mary celeste etc... 2. I love technology and working with cameras and wanted to see the graphics - I'm one of those really annoying people who notices everything..."I can see the boom mike in the corner of the screen everybody!" or "ooh, rough edit!" (Do you know in the film Ransom with Mr. Gibson there is a scene where he is sat by a glass fronted cabinet and you can see the entire film crew reflected in it - I nearly wet myself laughing...thinking how much did you spend on this and you make an error like THAT! It's not even as if they had to re-shoot they could've removed it digitally for Crippens sake!) and of course 3. to goggle at lovely licky Billy.

    Orlando, marvellous! It's adapted from the novel by Virginia Woolfe, I think its a british film - oh (laughing) it has Jimmy Sommerville in it as a golden angel dangling and singing in the sky - deliciously surreal!

    The phantom - well what can I say?! Considering the puple lycra suit hugging him from top to toe, and thus having a purple head - this film should really have been called - The Phallus.

    > isn't it cool? really hot looking actors are great. you can
    > think whatever you want to about them since you know you'll
    > never meet them.

    Yes indeed! Actors and valentines day - on Valentines you can send explicit sexual demands to complete strangers and it is considered to be perfectly normal, whilst at other times of the year this behaviour is considered to be sociopathic and illegal!!

    > i know exactly what the problem is: windows 98 is a piece of
    > @#!!! . if they had not created Internet Explorer in the way
    > that they did, life would be good.

    > all 5 of us!!!! woohoo!

    Yeah but we can all bring our cats along too, that should boost the total! "we won't use guns, we won't use bombs, we'll use the one thing we've got more of...and that's our minds!"
     
  3. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    you fascists are bound to lose

    > 'Never mind the Buzzcocks', 'leaving the 21st Century', he's
    > just finished a tour of GB. I know he had a show on radio two
    > 'Shake Rattle and Roll' - Playing...50's music!

    ah yes...now i remember "buzzcocks". i like the gameshow culture in britain even if I don't know what 95% of the answers are because I really don't know much about your pop culture in sports or minor celebrity figures, but i never saw that one...

    i was wondering if it had anything to do with him looking like an errant member of Morrissey's band.

    > I only watched Titanic because, 1. Since childhood I've had this
    > obssesion with titanic, mary rose, mary celeste etc...

    I did until the movie came out and I got really tired of it.

    >2. I love
    > technology and working with cameras and wanted to see the
    > graphics - I'm one of those really annoying people who notices
    > everything..."I can see the boom mike in the corner of the
    > screen everybody!" or "ooh, rough edit!" (Do you
    > know in the film Ransom with Mr. Gibson there is a scene where
    > he is sat by a glass fronted cabinet and you can see the entire
    > film crew reflected in it - I nearly wet myself
    > laughing...

    I didn't see that film either. It just looked really bad...that, and I really don't go for that genre a whole bunch.

    But, did you ever see Presumed Innocent, where at the end, a reporter shoves a tape recorder in Harrison Ford's face and there was obviously no tape in the recorder? That was my favorite gaffe.

    >thinking how much did you spend on this and you make
    > an error like THAT! It's not even as if they had to re-shoot
    > they could've removed it digitally for Crippens sake!) and of
    > course

    maybe they were being sneaky and wanted to be in the film.

    >3. to goggle at lovely licky Billy.

    you have an incredible tolerance for bad stuff. For example, I like David Duchovny, at one point, William Baldwin, and as of late, Russel Crowe. However, there is no way in help you are going to make me sit through Mystery, Alaska (anything by the producers of Ally McBeal makes me cringe and I hate stuff like "the mighty ducks") nor, would you have made me with through that film Baldwin did with Cindy Crawford.

    i do sit through long airport lines to see Morrissey. Explain why I do that and refuse to spend $3.50 in movie rental fees....I don't know.

    > Orlando, marvellous! It's adapted from the novel by Virginia
    > Woolfe, I think its a british film - oh (laughing) it has Jimmy
    > Sommerville in it as a golden angel dangling and singing in the
    > sky - deliciously surreal!

    > The phantom - well what can I say?! Considering the puple lycra
    > suit hugging him from top to toe, and thus having a purple head
    > - this film should really have been called - The Phallus.

    hmm...purple condom?

    > Yes indeed! Actors and valentines day - on Valentines you can
    > send explicit sexual demands to complete strangers and it is
    > considered to be perfectly normal, whilst at other times of the
    > year this behaviour is considered to be sociopathic and
    > illegal!!

    yes, as long as you don't make any reference to their impending death, things are OK....what a great basis for a relationship!

    > Yeah but we can all bring our cats along too, that should boost
    > the total! "we won't use guns, we won't use bombs, we'll
    > use the one thing we've got more of...and that's our
    > minds!"

    that's good. but don't bring anything with glass. i'm being a complete klutz and breaking and spilling stuff all over the place these days.
     
  4. Cinderella

    Cinderella Guest

    Re: Purple and ribbed!

    > ah yes...now i remember "buzzcocks". i like the
    > gameshow culture in britain even if I don't know what 95% of the
    > answers are because I really don't know much about your pop
    > culture in sports or minor celebrity figures, but i never saw
    > that one...

    > i was wondering if it had anything to do with him looking like
    > an errant member of Morrissey's band.

    Naaaaa, I like the way he looks and his ascerbic style

    > I did until the movie came out and I got really tired of it.

    I can see how you would feel that!

    > I didn't see that film either. It just looked really bad...that,
    > and I really don't go for that genre a whole bunch.

    > But, did you ever see Presumed Innocent, where at the end, a
    > reporter shoves a tape recorder in Harrison Ford's face and
    > there was obviously no tape in the recorder? That was my
    > favorite gaffe.

    How highly amusing, I will look out for that if I see that film.

    > maybe they were being sneaky and wanted to be in the film.

    Maybe, from my experience it sounds like a crewish thing to do.

    > you have an incredible tolerance for bad stuff. For example, I
    > like David Duchovny, at one point, William Baldwin, and as of
    > late, Russel Crowe. However, there is no way in help you are
    > going to make me sit through Mystery, Alaska (anything by the
    > producers of Ally McBeal makes me cringe and I hate stuff like
    > "the mighty ducks") nor, would you have made me with
    > through that film Baldwin did with Cindy Crawford.

    I know I have the patience of a saint. I spent two years doing film studies and I get through a lot of films 'on in the background' kind of thing, I'm pretty much house bound right now and studying from home and I'm one of those people who works better with the tv or the radio on.

    > i do sit through long airport lines to see Morrissey. Explain
    > why I do that and refuse to spend $3.50 in movie rental
    > fees....I don't know.

    Airport lines = people watching, even if you don't see Moz just watching the world go by can be kind of cathartic, I like to take my camera down to places like that,it's amazing some of the wonderful images you can get!

    > hmm...purple condom?

    : )

    > yes, as long as you don't make any reference to their impending
    > death, things are OK....what a great basis for a relationship!

    Well you don't wanna over step the mark in 1st communications, all that heavy stuff can come later on in the 'relationship'!!
     
  5. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: Purple and ribbed!

    > How highly amusing, I will look out for that if I see that film.

    other than that, it's forgettable. If you have to see it, just go ahead and fast forward to the end.

    > Maybe, from my experience it sounds like a crewish thing to do.

    Your experience?

    I thought that was usually left for the ambitious types who have a desire to be seen.

    If you are on the tech end, it just sort of...loses its glamour really quick.

    > I know I have the patience of a saint. I spent two years doing
    > film studies and I get through a lot of films 'on in the
    > background' kind of thing, I'm pretty much house bound right now
    > and studying from home and I'm one of those people who works
    > better with the tv or the radio on.

    Hmm. What end of film studies do you do?

    i've managed to stay completely out of film, and I opted for something just a little further down the totem pole, but from what I understand, the most exciting thing that can happen to you in film is that you have a few steady paying gigs back to back. It's kind of like music, in a sense....

    > Airport lines = people watching, even if you don't see Moz just
    > watching the world go by can be kind of cathartic, I like to
    > take my camera down to places like that,it's amazing some of the
    > wonderful images you can get!

    But you're in Britain...don't they try and take your camera away because they suspect you're in the IRA?

    I tend to zone out at airports from boredom.

    > : )

    Exactly!

    > Well you don't wanna over step the mark in 1st communications,
    > all that heavy stuff can come later on in the 'relationship'!!

    Yeah, but don't fill him in on the relationship until 6 months after it begins. You need to give him time to feel comfortable with not knowing.
     
  6. Fabricio

    Fabricio Guest

    Re: trigger happy

    > people aren't going to be completely sensitive all the time. i'm
    > not saying it's OK to be abusive about anything, but people do
    > slip up. half of that group weren't really "friends"
    > anyway. just two of them. of the remaining two who i barely
    > know, one is a classically trained flake who is completely
    > ignorant of the business of live music, and the other is that
    > drummer who drives me up the wall because he thinks he knows
    > everything.

    well, good reasons to say them everything they deserve, don't you think?

    > and you know, i think the whole thing about the tape was really
    > a good excuse not to have more involvement with their project.
    > it just lets me know that i can watch their little ship sink and
    > I don't have to care either way.

    Here I have to agree completely with you!!!

    >(i can almost hear the drummer
    > complaining about my material as i write this) not that i'm
    > managerial material, but at least i could have helped them a
    > bit.

    Yeah, but they don't deserve your attention for sure!

    > well, i'm sure others have done things for me that i probably
    > wasn't lavishing my gratitude.

    but have you beaten them as this band did with you?

    > that's the nature of relationships. you can't tell me you have
    > been 100% perfectly happy with your wife or vice versa.

    No, for sure.

    >don't
    > you realize that if, by your model, someone screws up once, that
    > they should be out the door?

    No for sure again.

    But we have maintain the mind open towards other people - they may be good people, but... the may not to be. This is the problem.

    I was a guy who always thought other people are good, that they always had their own reasons to do bad things - and most of the time I was completely wrong. We have to have the eyes open, and sincerely see others are they are, not as we liked they were.

    We have bad surprises like this, but our souls are less hurt this way.

    > i haven't met a person yet that doesn't do anything for you out
    > of their own personal good will.

    but they do so even when they have to act without ethics to get their objectives? This is wrong. There are several people that don't act like this.

    >they hope to get something in
    > return for their efforts.

    even if they make charity? I doubt it.

    > i think it was more that i wanted to keep my word. i was
    > determined to tough something out instead of not dealing with
    > it. i knew it was going to be bad, but i just didn't count on
    > some of the things happening the way they did. all i thought i
    > would have to deal with is her hillbilly of a boyfriend hanging
    > out and them being gross together.

    yes, and things became worse still...

    > there is no such thing as the word "deserving" in the
    > world of dating. if we are all equal, then we all
    > "deserve" love of some sort.

    I don't think evrybody is "equal". St Teresa and Hitler were not "equal".

    >all it comes down to is
    > what you are able to put out for the other person, and what you
    > are able to get from them in return.

    this is true - we always lose something in a stable relationship, and we have to deal with.

    >if you don't get much out
    > of other people, and you also tend to be a master at not filling
    > the void in the lives of others, you tend to sit at home a lot.

    yes, but i am certain somebody will give you much.
     
  7. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: trigger happy

    > well, good reasons to say them everything they deserve, don't
    > you think?

    > Here I have to agree completely with you!!!

    > Yeah, but they don't deserve your attention for sure!

    > but have you beaten them as this band did with you?

    A case of little pebbles vs. a great big stone

    > No, for sure.

    > No for sure again.

    > But we have maintain the mind open towards other people - they
    > may be good people, but... the may not to be. This is the
    > problem.

    > I was a guy who always thought other people are good, that they
    > always had their own reasons to do bad things - and most of the
    > time I was completely wrong. We have to have the eyes open, and
    > sincerely see others are they are, not as we liked they were.

    That's what i was saying.

    > We have bad surprises like this, but our souls are less hurt
    > this way.

    > but they do so even when they have to act without ethics to get
    > their objectives? This is wrong. There are several people that
    > don't act like this.

    Jeez, its not like they wrecked my car and killed my cat.

    > even if they make charity? I doubt it.

    But what is charity? Guilt? A way of trying to make yourself feel better for helping others? How many socially conscious people actually give whole heartedly to charity?

    > yes, and things became worse still...

    > I don't think evrybody is "equal". St Teresa and
    > Hitler were not "equal".

    But you see, this is the deal:
    even though we today know Hitler is evil, back in Germany, there were millions of people behind him and his efforts because they thought what he did was right. You pair him and some other chick up with the same mentality, and, well, they deserve each other. It's not like he's the only anti-semite running around. It's not like whoever he's going to date is going to risk her parents complaining, "no, he's a racist bastard! We'll disown you!" because, more than likely, she and her family would probably have the same views, and they would be congratulating themselves on what a fine catch she brought home. It's not like Hitler was really inflicted on some poor girl. He got his equal. They made each other happy in their own way.

    > this is true - we always lose something in a stable
    > relationship, and we have to deal with.

    i wouldn't know.

    > yes, but i am certain somebody will give you much.

    the whole thing about love and relationships is a much more complicated thing than finding someone who will give you a lot. For example, what if I wasn't a good person to get things from? You're doing nothing more than taking a wild guess at the quality of relationship someone would get out of me. You're also making assumptions about my desperation and my needs.

    I'm sure, Fabricio, being the guy that I know you are, you're hoping I'm more lonely and desperate than what I am. You probably imagine that I flirt wildly and desperately in some vain attempt that maybe some guy will take me home, and You just nod and smile and go "mmm hmm" and hope that you are biding some time until I come around.
     
  8. Cinderella

    Cinderella Guest

    Re: oi oi

    > other than that, it's forgettable. If you have to see it, just
    > go ahead and fast forward to the end.

    OK thanks for the tip!

    > Your experience?

    The people who I was at art college with who were going into tv/film design, their sick senses of humour and all that. And the tutors who had worked, were working in the industry all sweeetly sick pranksters. There was usually always far more talent behind the cameras (more personality too)

    > I thought that was usually left for the ambitious types who have
    > a desire to be seen.

    Probably wanted to piss off 'the glamour'

    > If you are on the tech end, it just sort of...loses its glamour
    > really quick.

    > Hmm. What end of film studies do you do?

    I got really into cameras and editing both linea and digital, then I fell into stills photography, then I had to leave regualar college and study from home so I opted for computers as I was so used to fiddling around with them using arts packages etc, plus I had always liked the technical 'stuff' so I thought - I like it, it's practicle, I can do it from home, it's realistic for right now.

    > i've managed to stay completely out of film, and I opted for
    > something just a little further down the totem pole, but from
    > what I understand, the most exciting thing that can happen to
    > you in film is that you have a few steady paying gigs back to
    > back. It's kind of like music, in a sense....

    > But you're in Britain...don't they try and take your camera away
    > because they suspect you're in the IRA?

    That hasn't happened to me...yet! I usually go to train stations, well I always seem to pick journeys where I have to spend yonks waiting at connecting stations...it kills time.

    > Yeah, but don't fill him in on the relationship until 6 months
    > after it begins. You need to give him time to feel comfortable
    > with not knowing.

    Oh absolutely, I agree. It can get so icky and complicated when both of you are aware of the relationship.
     
  9. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: oi oi

    > OK thanks for the tip!

    > The people who I was at art college with who were going into
    > tv/film design, their sick senses of humour and all that. And
    > the tutors who had worked, were working in the industry all
    > sweeetly sick pranksters. There was usually always far more
    > talent behind the cameras (more personality too)

    Exactly. When I compare the tech department to the sales, I just can't help but notice how the sales department has been sucked down into that bourgeois black hole of not doing anything that interesting.

    > Probably wanted to piss off 'the glamour'

    Mel Gibson? Maybe.

    > I got really into cameras and editing both linea and digital,
    > then I fell into stills photography, then I had to leave
    > regualar college and study from home so I opted for computers as
    > I was so used to fiddling around with them using arts packages
    > etc, plus I had always liked the technical 'stuff' so I thought
    > - I like it, it's practicle, I can do it from home, it's
    > realistic for right now.

    Graphics are fun. I should have learned that stuff in school instead of blowing my free time on the computer and thinking that all that time in college was a waste. Let's face it. At the time, I thought I would be able to escape the 9-5 world, but once you leave and see that there are thousands in your boat, then it just sort of...well, you can't really see it happening to you, and you really don't know where to begin. It's one of those things where you need so much ambition, desire for your craft that you would willingly starve, mental focus, and all of the connections that come from others who are willing to put in a good word that anything short of that just sort of makes the pursuit useless.

    True, you could spend the next 10 years making commercials for a TV station in Abilene, but that's not what most people envision.

    > That hasn't happened to me...yet! I usually go to train
    > stations, well I always seem to pick journeys where I have to
    > spend yonks waiting at connecting stations...it kills time.

    Trainspotting?!?!

    > Oh absolutely, I agree. It can get so icky and complicated when
    > both of you are aware of the relationship.

    You need time to plan out where it's going. That way, he can't argue with it.
     
  10. Cinderella

    Cinderella Guest

    Re: "Her name was Lola, she was a show girl..."

    Mel Gibson (gibbon) - another pants film to add to the crap pile, conspiracy theory was on tv last night! I got so far but had to stop it was too pathogenic to continue...Julia Roberts, YET AGAIN playing...Julia Roberts, wow that womans a legend in her own mind!

    Well we can but dream that some day it's gonna happen and everything will be dreamy fu.cking peachy creamy - yeah right, and cats are going to start liking being bathed too!

    Trainspotting?!?!?! indeed, no I'm not one of those...yet, budding computer nerd, I hold my hands up, but I'm not quite a fully fledged anorac wearing fully subscribed member of the 'described by neighbours at the inquest as the quiet type, kept themselves to themselves, never really saw much of them to be honest, type'

    And at the end of the day, in truth, I think I would rather have an enema than a relationship anyday! (The relationship wouldn't be a close second either.)
     
  11. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: "Her name was Lola, she was a show girl..."

    > Mel Gibson (gibbon) - another pants film to add to the crap
    > pile, conspiracy theory was on tv last night! I got so far but
    > had to stop it was too pathogenic to continue...Julia Roberts,
    > YET AGAIN playing...Julia Roberts, wow that womans a legend in
    > her own mind!

    Well, OK. Even the big stars get typecast. I had just realized that for the most part, they stick Denzel Washtington into all these cop roles. Virtuosity, Bone Collector, a Few Good Men (he was in that one, correct?). There could be more of them that I don't even know about.

    If nothing else, look at Arnold Schwarzenegger. Whenever they need a block of wood to stand in one place while things blew up, they called him in.

    > Well we can but dream that some day it's gonna happen and
    > everything will be dreamy fu.cking peachy creamy - yeah right,
    > and cats are going to start liking being bathed too!

    that's when you let them bathe themselves...cats do that, ya know...

    > Trainspotting?!?!?! indeed, no I'm not one of those...yet,
    > budding computer nerd, I hold my hands up, but I'm not quite a
    > fully fledged anorac wearing fully subscribed member of the
    > 'described by neighbours at the inquest as the quiet type, kept
    > themselves to themselves, never really saw much of them to be
    > honest, type'

    that's all of me but the last bit...

    > And at the end of the day, in truth, I think I would rather have
    > an enema than a relationship anyday! (The relationship wouldn't
    > be a close second either.)

    Depending on your concept of dating, the enema usually doesn't last as long.
     
  12. Fabricio

    Fabricio Guest

    Re: trigger happy

    > A case of little pebbles vs. a great big stone

    what?

    > That's what i was saying.

    so... why don't you consider the others may have bad intentions?

    > Jeez, its not like they wrecked my car and killed my cat.

    I don't agree - being cruel psychologically is horrible sometimes.

    > But what is charity? Guilt? A way of trying to make yourself
    > feel better for helping others? How many socially conscious
    > people actually give whole heartedly to charity?

    I didn't say ALL people that makes charity give whole heartedly to charity. I said some people do.

    > But you see, this is the deal:
    > even though we today know Hitler is evil, back in Germany, there
    > were millions of people behind him and his efforts because they
    > thought what he did was right.

    What he did was the more evil actions ever, probably. If a great number of people thought (and think today) he was right doesn't change the enormity of horrors he caused.

    >You pair him and some other chick
    > up with the same mentality, and, well, they deserve each other.

    The only thing he deserves is an horrendous death.

    > It's not like he's the only anti-semite running around. It's not
    > like whoever he's going to date is going to risk her parents
    > complaining, "no, he's a racist bastard! We'll disown
    > you!" because, more than likely, she and her family would
    > probably have the same views, and they would be congratulating
    > themselves on what a fine catch she brought home.

    a shame from them too. This don't justify anything.

    >It's not like
    > Hitler was really inflicted on some poor girl. He got his equal.
    > They made each other happy in their own way.

    I think good people will be happy in the end and sorrow will come to bad people in the end. This is a religious point of view, and relativisms don't count in my opinion.

    > i wouldn't know.

    i didn't understand, sorry.

    > the whole thing about love and relationships is a much more
    > complicated thing than finding someone who will give you a lot.

    I think both have to give something.

    > For example, what if I wasn't a good person to get things from?

    Well, probably you wouldn't be a Morrissey fan... no, serious: I don't know how to answer this.

    > You're doing nothing more than taking a wild guess at the
    > quality of relationship someone would get out of me.

    Perhaps I would expect sincerity from you.

    >You're also
    > making assumptions about my desperation and my needs.

    No, I don't. You are complaining about some of your friends and I'm saying my opinions about bad people, relating with some experiences I've had.

    > I'm sure, Fabricio, being the guy that I know you are, you're
    > hoping I'm more lonely and desperate than what I am.

    Explain yourself please.

    I am not like that.

    > You
    > probably imagine that I flirt wildly and desperately in some
    > vain attempt that maybe some guy will take me home, and You just
    > nod and smile and go "mmm hmm" and hope that you are
    > biding some time until I come around.

    Do you think I am that bad?

    No, I'm not that bad Suzanne.

    I like you, and you seem not to deal well with people liking you.

    You expect I have second intentions, that I have an evil mind.

    But I'm sorry to disappoint you: I am just trying to help you, because I know it's good to talk about our own problems, even with somebody from a 3rd World Country.

    And I'm telling my own stories to you.
     
  13. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: trigger happy

    > what?

    little things thrown over a long period of time vs. one fail swoop.

    > so... why don't you consider the others may have bad intentions?

    Bad intentions? Let me put their bad intentions on a scale:

    First of all, they didn't rip me off.

    Second of all, if I had personally gotten some professional contacts from the tape based solely on my work and not theirs, they would not have (in a million years) tried to step over me and try and get in contact with these other people in a desperate bid to have someone look at them, and in the process make me look unprofessional and potentially ruin my chances of furthering myself.

    The first scenario is common all around. The second one actually happened to me by someone I knew, and no, I don't speak to that guy anymore. So, having someone blow off a donation of a 4-track recording is relatively small.

    > I don't agree - being cruel psychologically is horrible
    > sometimes.

    OK. On the scale of bad things for which I wish to track down people and teach them a lesson about, that is very minute. I can rank these things, and frankly, I'd rather stick the freak that followed me back to my car a couple of weeks ago much further up on my priority list of things to get mad about.

    > I didn't say ALL people that makes charity give whole heartedly
    > to charity. I said some people do.

    > What he did was the more evil actions ever, probably. If a great
    > number of people thought (and think today) he was right doesn't
    > change the enormity of horrors he caused.

    But think of all the things that people thought that were OK at one time and now we think they are evil for doing. Slavery is a big one for example. Even Thomas Jefferson, highly revered political philosopher and founding father of the US owned slaves. Does anyone make a big stink about what an evil guy he is? No. His books are still read, and all the school children learn about what a great guy he was.

    Thomas Jefferson, back at that point, was considered a great enough guy to run the country. Today, people would be throwing things at him on Ricki Lake for being a racist.

    Also, for centuries before Hitler came to power, there was a lot of anti-semitism towards the Jews living in Europe. They tried desperately to keep them out of jobs, etc for many many years before Hitler even came to power. The Jews were pretty much non-citizens in Europe. All Hitler did was feed off of the discrimination and hatred that was already there.

    > The only thing he deserves is an horrendous death.

    > a shame from them too. This don't justify anything.

    > I think good people will be happy in the end and sorrow will
    > come to bad people in the end. This is a religious point of
    > view, and relativisms don't count in my opinion.

    But doesn't God hate all sin equally?

    > i didn't understand, sorry.

    > I think both have to give something.

    > Well, probably you wouldn't be a Morrissey fan... no, serious: I
    > don't know how to answer this.

    > Perhaps I would expect sincerity from you.

    i don't know about that.

    > No, I don't. You are complaining about some of your friends and
    > I'm saying my opinions about bad people, relating with some
    > experiences I've had.

    But the thing is, you just don't have a scale to weigh things with. I'm really tired, and I think at that point I would have liked to see something I put a lot of work into pan out and have a positive effect, because everything has really been difficult work as of late and much harder than it should be.

    But honestly, I'm not as mad about that as the fact that I had hoped that my tape would have made that retardo of a drummer shut the hell up. That's really the only thing that bothers me.

    > Explain yourself please.

    > I am not like that.

    > Do you think I am that bad?

    > No, I'm not that bad Suzanne.

    > I like you, and you seem not to deal well with people liking
    > you.

    Whenever that happens, maybe...

    > You expect I have second intentions, that I have an evil mind.

    you are the guy who wanted to fly to see me, correct?

    > But I'm sorry to disappoint you: I am just trying to help you,
    > because I know it's good to talk about our own problems, even
    > with somebody from a 3rd World Country.

    > And I'm telling my own stories to you.
     
  14. Cinderella

    Cinderella Guest

    Re: For Rent.

    > Well, OK. Even the big stars get typecast. I had just realized
    > that for the most part, they stick Denzel Washtington into all
    > these cop roles. Virtuosity, Bone Collector, a Few Good Men (he
    > was in that one, correct?). There could be more of them that I
    > don't even know about.

    Oh absobloodylutely, Jodie Foster, I've lost count of the times that woman has been sexually abused in some way on screen, Kevin Spacey is usually evil, Michael Madson...bang, bang bad guy, Sly Stallone!

    > If nothing else, look at Arnold Schwarzenegger. Whenever they
    > need a block of wood to stand in one place while things blew up,
    > they called him in.

    Well, he is one of the biggest names in Hollywood...TWENTY letters!

    > that's when you let them bathe themselves...cats do that, ya
    > know...

    They do it and they do it well. And with new products on the market for fleas and such like you don't even have to use those nasty shampoos anymore. The occasional rescue cat however, comes in, in such a mess that we have no choice. Especially if they are long hairs and have been living rough - even more fun for us if they have actually gone ferral! Some of them are so badly tangled and dirty they actually have to be shaved by the vet, or at least part shaved, poor loves. We once got this cat who was so knotted that the knots had been getting pulled and stuff and all her skin was brusied - it was horrible, another cat was covered in oil and we couldn't let him lick at that and poison himself - both cats are now wonderfully happy in new homes, the oily one with a friend of mine so I still get to see him, although I'm the nasty visitor, my friend and his family have never had cats before so they always get me to go round and help worm him and stuff...

    > Depending on your concept of dating, the enema usually doesn't
    > last as long.

    Which is another benefit of enemas! Nope I'm stoicly single...for now it's what I like best.
     
  15. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: For Rent.

    > Oh absobloodylutely, Jodie Foster, I've lost count of the times
    > that woman has been sexually abused in some way on screen, Kevin
    > Spacey is usually evil, Michael Madson...bang, bang bad guy, Sly
    > Stallone!

    I thought they always gave the roles that looked "Oscar Worthy" to Spacey.

    Let's not forget Gary Sinise who has made a career staring ahead straight past the camera, face quivering, lost in his world of inner torment.

    Especially paired with Tom Hanks....they can't keep those two apart. Matter of fact, I'm tired of seeing those two paired together. I don't think there is anything extroardinary about their on screen chemistry.

    Who is the bad guy in Speed? I can see his face....

    > Well, he is one of the biggest names in Hollywood...TWENTY
    > letters!

    > They do it and they do it well. And with new products on the
    > market for fleas and such like you don't even have to use those
    > nasty shampoos anymore. The occasional rescue cat however, comes
    > in, in such a mess that we have no choice. Especially if they
    > are long hairs and have been living rough - even more fun for us
    > if they have actually gone ferral! Some of them are so badly
    > tangled and dirty they actually have to be shaved by the vet, or
    > at least part shaved, poor loves. We once got this cat who was
    > so knotted that the knots had been getting pulled and stuff and
    > all her skin was brusied - it was horrible, another cat was
    > covered in oil and we couldn't let him lick at that and poison
    > himself - both cats are now wonderfully happy in new homes, the
    > oily one with a friend of mine so I still get to see him,
    > although I'm the nasty visitor, my friend and his family have
    > never had cats before so they always get me to go round and help
    > worm him and stuff...

    > Which is another benefit of enemas! Nope I'm stoicly
    > single...for now it's what I like best.

    I'm debating it. sitting around and waiting for "the perfect guy" is a very good timewaster to a point. at the same time, i'm so busy that i don't have lots of time to think about it. I crash at roughly 2 AM on weeknights a lot of times and think, "this is how crazy my life is, and I'm not even dating anyone!"

    I mean, sheesh, how does the rest of the world cope?
     
  16. Cinderella

    Cinderella Guest

    Re: Contusion

    > I thought they always gave the roles that looked "Oscar
    > Worthy" to Spacey.

    Good point!

    > Let's not forget Gary Sinise who has made a career staring ahead
    > straight past the camera, face quivering, lost in his world of
    > inner torment.

    Or whats his face...Hugh...Grant, all he has is floppy hair and a badly put on stammer. As put best by Dennis Pennis "Hey you're really good, what do you do, go out into the forest to study, to get inspiration from the trees because you are just soooo wooden it's amazing!"

    > Especially paired with Tom Hanks....they can't keep those two
    > apart. Matter of fact, I'm tired of seeing those two paired
    > together. I don't think there is anything extroardinary about
    > their on screen chemistry.

    > Who is the bad guy in Speed? I can see his face....

    That would be Dennis Hopper...I think he's just fab, he plays frank in Blue Velvet...Ooooh I love David Lynch Films! I think there is something kinda slightly sexy about Dennis bad man Hopper, there is something to be said for the older man. Terence Stamp and Alan Rickman mmmmmmmmmm.

    > I'm debating it. sitting around and waiting for "the
    > perfect guy" is a very good timewaster to a point. at the
    > same time, i'm so busy that i don't have lots of time to think
    > about it. I crash at roughly 2 AM on weeknights a lot of times
    > and think, "this is how crazy my life is, and I'm not even
    > dating anyone!"

    Good Tip: be the mistress and not the wife/partner. You get the fun and the presents but you don't get his insecurities, his laundry and you don't have to put up with him during the holidays!

    > I mean, sheesh, how does the rest of the world cope?

    Didn't you realise yet?! The rest of the world are doing just fine haveing a real laugh deliberately making life difficult for people like us!

    "I think I'm going crazy."
    "No you're not Gina, It's everyone else who's BONKERS!"
     
  17. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Protrusion

    > Good point!

    > Or whats his face...Hugh...Grant, all he has is floppy hair and
    > a badly put on stammer. As put best by Dennis Pennis "Hey
    > you're really good, what do you do, go out into the forest to
    > study, to get inspiration from the trees because you are just
    > soooo wooden it's amazing!"

    I could never really get into Hugh Grant. Wasn't it Morrissey who said that the only reason why he's big in Hollywood is because he has an accent?

    To be very specific, if they have a role involving some bumblingly polite Brit in America visiting friends or relatives, they call him.

    If they need a cutesy little girl who lives in sweats and who cleans up really nice and innocent in little cotton dresses, and bounces around the room in her "I'm a cutesy little flirt!" laugh, they bring Sandra Bullock in.

    > That would be Dennis Hopper...I think he's just fab, he plays
    > frank in Blue Velvet...Ooooh I love David Lynch Films! I think
    > there is something kinda slightly sexy about Dennis bad man
    > Hopper, there is something to be said for the older man. Terence
    > Stamp and Alan Rickman mmmmmmmmmm.

    Um, not too old. The idea of sleeping with someone's grandpa just doesn't suit me.

    Whatever happened to Dennis? We can lump him in with Marisa Tomei and Joe Pesci as far as the AWOLs in the field of "I have one character I play and nothing else."

    > Good Tip: be the mistress and not the wife/partner. You get the
    > fun and the presents but you don't get his insecurities, his
    > laundry and you don't have to put up with him during the
    > holidays!

    I knew a guy who was "the other guy" and apparently, it's not fun when the husband finds out.

    > Didn't you realise yet?! The rest of the world are doing just
    > fine haveing a real laugh deliberately making life difficult for
    > people like us!

    I've always suspected it.

    Or, maybe that's why everyone who dates someone for long enough turns into a couch potato. They're too tired to do anything else.

    But if you think about it, if the sex is really good, then why would you give a damn about what is going on outside?
     
  18. Cinderella

    Cinderella Guest

    Re: Protractor

    > I could never really get into Hugh Grant. Wasn't it Morrissey
    > who said that the only reason why he's big in Hollywood is
    > because he has an accent?

    It was.

    > If they need a cutesy little girl who lives in sweats and who
    > cleans up really nice and innocent in little cotton dresses, and
    > bounces around the room in her "I'm a cutesy little
    > flirt!" laugh, they bring Sandra Bullock in.

    Soooooo true

    > Um, not too old. The idea of sleeping with someone's grandpa
    > just doesn't suit me.

    Finding them sexy but not sleeping with them I suppose is what I mean. More Appreciating them from afar.

    > Whatever happened to Dennis? We can lump him in with Marisa
    > Tomei and Joe Pesci as far as the AWOLs in the field of "I
    > have one character I play and nothing else."

    > I knew a guy who was "the other guy" and apparently,
    > it's not fun when the husband finds out.

    Do you know that is just another example of peoples' stupidity! People always go harsh on the other - but if you think about it they don't owe anybody anything, they aren't the one with the supposed commitment to the wronged party! And it's all just stupid pants rubbish in most cases anyway. Lots of people are more willing to 'go to waste in the wrong arms' because they are terrified of being single in a couples world - I say screw that...and most other things too...A good few momento moris' around in everyday life would not be a bad thing...

    > I've always suspected it.

    > Or, maybe that's why everyone who dates someone for long enough
    > turns into a couch potato. They're too tired to do anything
    > else.

    > But if you think about it, if the sex is really good, then why
    > would you give a damn about what is going on outside?

    The sex in my experience is rarely very good when it comes to men. An even better tip than the last one: Lesbians really know what they are doing! They know quite naturally where everything is and what to do with it. No babies, std's between lesbians - minimal risk...
    IMHO the worst thing with straight sex is that boring routine most people seem to want to fall into - I do this to you, then you do this to me, then we do this for about so long...Yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwn.

    And nothing puts me off my dinner, off life, more than those cutsie couples - uuuurrrrrrggghhhh, snukums and pookie, really nasty slurpy public kisses, similar clothes and that 'should be shot on sight' hands in each others back pocket...You should read a novel by Stella Duffy called 'singling out the couples' It is fantastic, a wickedly cruel and delightful story. It was one of those books I couldn't put down.
     
  19. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    Re: Protractor

    > Finding them sexy but not sleeping with them I suppose is what I
    > mean. More Appreciating them from afar.

    Even still....

    > Do you know that is just another example of peoples' stupidity!
    > People always go harsh on the other - but if you think about it
    > they don't owe anybody anything, they aren't the one with the
    > supposed commitment to the wronged party! And it's all just
    > stupid pants rubbish in most cases anyway. Lots of people are
    > more willing to 'go to waste in the wrong arms' because they are
    > terrified of being single in a couples world - I say screw
    > that...and most other things too...A good few momento moris'
    > around in everyday life would not be a bad thing...

    What are those?

    > The sex in my experience is rarely very good when it comes to
    > men. An even better tip than the last one: Lesbians really know
    > what they are doing! They know quite naturally where everything
    > is and what to do with it. No babies, std's between lesbians -
    > minimal risk...

    I don't know....

    > IMHO the worst thing with straight sex is that boring routine
    > most people seem to want to fall into - I do this to you, then
    > you do this to me, then we do this for about so
    > long...Yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwn.

    I wouldn't know....

    > And nothing puts me off my dinner, off life, more than those
    > cutsie couples - uuuurrrrrrggghhhh, snukums and pookie, really
    > nasty slurpy public kisses, similar clothes and that 'should be
    > shot on sight' hands in each others back pocket...You should
    > read a novel by Stella Duffy called 'singling out the couples'
    > It is fantastic, a wickedly cruel and delightful story. It was
    > one of those books I couldn't put down.

    I think people who cling that much in public are really nothing more than incredibly insecure people who are trying to make desperately sure nobody takes their "pooky" away. It's bad when you have to talk to the opposite sex of that couple and the partner starts trying to distract them, and you want to turn right to them and say, "Jesus, do you have any idea how many times I have thanked God that I don't find him attractive enough for even if I was falling down desperate?"

    Because, you're also smart enough to realize what a louse of a human being he is...
     
  20. Cinderella

    Cinderella Guest

    Re: Circles!

    > Even still....

    > What are those?

    things which remind us that we are only mortal...it roughly translates as 'remember that you must die'

    > I don't know....

    > I wouldn't know....

    > I think people who cling that much in public are really nothing
    > more than incredibly insecure people who are trying to make
    > desperately sure nobody takes their "pooky" away. It's
    > bad when you have to talk to the opposite sex of that couple and
    > the partner starts trying to distract them, and you want to turn
    > right to them and say, "Jesus, do you have any idea how
    > many times I have thanked God that I don't find him attractive
    > enough for even if I was falling down desperate?"

    > Because, you're also smart enough to realize what a louse of a
    > human being he is...

    What else could I possibly add to that?! Except the hanging offense that is the retort to the expression of this observation - 'you're obvoulsy jealous' - The answer to which is: let me explain this to you AGAIN, because you seem to have missed to entire basis to my point!

    I have impunity on my christmas list every year in bigger and bolder letters each time!
     
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