Still don't see the lie. He did what they're describing. He then opted not to offer an explanation, a decision to maintain some ambiguity that I respect but one that nonetheless came with consequences.
Still don't see the lie. He did what they're describing. He then opted not to offer an explanation, a decision to maintain some ambiguity that I respect but one that nonetheless came with consequences.
Still don't see the lie. He did what they're describing. He then opted not to offer an explanation, a decision to maintain some ambiguity that I respect but one that nonetheless came with consequences.
Talking to you is a waste of time -- you're out of your f***ing mind, it's intolerable. Your fiction has completely blinded you.He did not do what they're describing - there was no gesture that would be unambiguously interpreted by skinheads. There was no racist imagery. And it was a dig at his sexuality. They shouldn't have written it.
That’s a no then.It's on YouTube.
Except I just wrote I laughed at Morrissey making himself a twat after Der Spiegel. I made my osn mind up. Without Twitter, The Guardian or NME. In read his statement the listened to the tape. Nothing could be more straightforward.
That’s a no then.
Karen, the levels you go to in order to defend M are to be admired. However, in just as equal a measured, quite astonishing.
I can’t think what your point is in all this. You’re an armchair admirer of Morrissey, so not someone who follows him around the globe, but yet your blind deviation of him is somewhat bizarre.
He will eventually break your little heart. To a point, where even you won’t be able to put a spin on the shit on offer.
Fact is, he’s dug many a hole for himself down the years, some can be filled back up with soil, some can’t.
You’d make a great wife with your defence mechanism.
Talking to you is a waste of time -- you're out of your f***ing mind, it's intolerable. Your fiction has completely blinded you.
Except I just wrote I laughed at Morrissey making himself a twat after Der Spiegel. I made my osn mind up. Without Twitter, The Guardian or NME. In read his statement the listened to the tape. Nothing could be more straightforward.
Only you could construe that as a “hit piece.” The funny thing about this retroactive outrage over the NME is that the original “Flying the flag…” piece is actually completely reasonable — I’d say that the only aspect of the feature that misses the mark is the collection of “problematic quotes” which comes off as a pedantic waste of time. The rest of it is even-keeled and goes so far as to give Morrissey the benefit of the doubt. If anything, the man himself is complicit in elevating the article to legendary status.If you can't see the difference between the Independent's review that cites his lack of blokedom as the only problem at Finsbury Park
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AS YOU skirt the perimeter fence between the car-park and the entrance, before you have even got into the concert, you see the leaflets littering the grass outside. 'On Sale Soon', they read. 'The Video Of This Concert'. Blimey, you think, give us a chance to help you finish making the damn...www.independent.co.uk
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Then you're the one blinded by fiction.
Only you could construe that as a “hit piece.” The funny thing about this retroactive outrage over the NME is that the original “Flying the flag…” piece is actually completely reasonable — I’d say that the only aspect of the feature that misses the mark is the collection of “problematic quotes” which comes off as a pedantic waste of time. The rest of it is even-keeled and goes so far as to give Morrissey the benefit of the doubt. If anything, the man himself is complicit in elevating the article to legendary status.
It’s very clearly not a lie. Morrissey had a chance to respond and he didn’t. He threatened legal action which was a joke because there was no grounds to make a case for libel — something he was well-aware of.Making insinuations & accusations in the form of questions is a well known tabloid technique. It's not reasonable. It's a lie.
And you'd say absolutely anything because for some reason you have to argue on this site.
It’s very clearly not a lie. Morrissey had a chance to respond and he didn’t. He threatened legal action which was a joke because there was no grounds to make a case for libel — something he was well-aware of.
Alright, I’m done. I don’t even know where to begin with that one. Your shtick is bordering on absurdist performance. Such a disingenuous clown.It was a lie.
There was no racist imagery - there was a Derek Ridgers art print & a Union Jack.
And insinuating that he's got a fetish for racism based on absolutely f*** all is outright homophobia.
Alright, I’m done. I don’t even know where to begin with that one. Your shtick is bordering on absurdist performance. Such a disingenuous clown.
Not getting an interview is no excuse.
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Ridiculous. That proves nothing. It's not just the flag. Where is the juxtaposition of skinheads as a backdrop? Only in the very small Morrissey picture. And they were in the audience too.
I respect you greatly, Janice, but you do seem to think that the only way to appreciate, understand or be a fan of Morrissey is to go to as many gigs as possible. And you do like to brag about the number of shows you’ve been to, making it seem like you merely ‘collect’ them, that going to shows is the point in itself, the be-all-and-end all, not what you experience and feel at these shows.You’re an armchair admirer of Morrissey, so not someone who follows him around the globe,
It had everything to do with the NME - people were saying FB was the proof that he had been supporting the NF all along.
If the suspicion hadn't been there it wouldn't have been the same scandal.
and there are countless fans who made up their minds regardless of the Pingate. I'm not interested in UK politics. Also somehow you skipped over my question about NME's adulation in 2004. I understand, it caused error in the delusion, you needed to re-bootThere are countless articles, blogs, tweets & posts where ex fans or journalists describe the 'suspicions' they put out of their mind before Pingate made them believe it was all true.
Mad Karen is up to her old tricks again.Morrissey spoke about AMW and TR not the NME, if he hadn’t, there wouldn’t have been any drama at all.