New Morrissey website 'Morrissey Central', including lengthy statement re The Independent

Obviously the successor to True To You has now arrived:
http://www.morrisseycentral.com/

Why The Independent hates independence - Morrissey Central
March 28, 2018

The importance of an artist (or political figure) is sometimes evident in the efforts taken to silence them. Two weeks ago, with stiff-backed priggishness, The Independent printed an extreme Hate Piece so loaded with vile bile that it almost choked on its own endless capacity to be appalled. As its target, it seemed evident that The Independent found me so morally shredded and physically repulsive that I appeared to fascinate them, whilst it also seemed obvious that any announcement of my painful death would make them laugh loudly. Yes, this is what we’re dealing with. Their moral outrage is certain that it has hit upon something as they take a stab at just about everything whilst hitting nothing.
Telford grooming gangs? Hardly worth a whisper in The Independent. Instead let’s demonize Morrissey - who deserves our indefatigable abuse since he appears to be saying some things that many people are actually thinking. To truthophobics, I am apparently worse than useless.

You see, The Independent ‘newspaper’ isn’t actually a paper with news, and it will express only the views of their editor/dictator, whose name is Christian Broughton. What he will tell us is happening and what we see is happening are two entirely different things. In order to find out the truth of anything, you must take note of what Christian Broughton does not allow into print.
My manager (Peter Katsis) spoke to Christian Broughton after the Hate Piece had appeared, and he asked why Broughton had sanctioned such a diabolically contrived and bitterly inaccurate mess. Broughton pointed out that “it would be difficult to find anyone at The Independent
who agreed with Morrissey’s views.” This almost- illiterate reply fully reveals The Independent’s dog-yapping will to destroy anyone with a view that doesn’t match their own. The Independent, you see, must supervise and censor art - that is their function.
But what are my views? And why do they ‘get at’ the stiff boundaries of The Independent? And what is The Independent independent of? Truth? Shame? They state confidently that, when I recently asked a packed audience at Glasgow Arena if they actually liked Nicola Sturgeon, that half the audience walked out in disgust towards me. As you can guess, without any principals of justice. The Glasgow audience, in fact, roared a deafening “NOOOOO!” in reply to the question, and not one person was known to have left the venue in protest. The Independent is willing to lie to its readers in order to create a skewed truth, and to hell with any principals of justice. If the newspaper is willing to take such silly risks with very basic facts then what on earth could they report that you would actually believe? They tell their readers that I “loathe Nicola Sturgeon” (which is untrue), and they explain by way of sneering slur how I am “loving Brexit”.

I believe I have mentioned Brexit twice in my entire life, and neither comment expressed love. I had explained how Brexit had been a strike for democracy because of the disgust that the political elite had shown towards the people who did not vote the way that they were warned to by media bullies. But why attack anyone who loves Brexit? Almost two years on from the result, the EU still has not allowed the UK to leave its clutches - which simply explains exactly why the Leave campaigners voted as they did in the first place. Doesn’t it twig?
However, any Brexit loathing by The Independent does not reflect majority opinion, and this lends them no independent thought whatsoever, but blind bureaucratic arrogance instead. This is symptomatic of a modern, shredded British society, where free speech no longer exists. When the print media are lost for a reply, they simply change the subject by naming their
opponent as ‘racist’, which is the perfect ploy because most people are naturally appalled to be called racist, and they step back in silence, and the debate collapses unresolved. Use of the word often only ever comes from people who themselves are intolerant. It works. Even though England introduced the world to democracy, great art and great literature, it is now leading the way with a dark and largely hidden agenda where no one is entitled to disagree; only one interest and opinion must prevail within the print media. Art is now fully outside tabloid journalism, and the gaping hole shrieks at us via the commercial arena with its automatic laughter and the impotent emotion of reality TV. The American genius William Burroughs was once interviewed on Radio 1 in the 1970s. Today’s Radio 1 is such an intellectually paralyzed blast of surface that it would not remotely consider interviewing anyone of the nature or intellect of Burroughs. Is civilization over? The cannibalistic mobile grave known as The Guardian suggests so. Thrilled at the knowledge of their own power, both The Guardian and The Independent daily confirm the views of everyone who morally objects to them (and The News of The World turns in its urn.) Their intolerant and totalitarian criticism of others reveals so much about themselves. Perhaps newspapers just cannot keep up with the open-ness and tolerance of internet news sites? The future of The Independent seems only a question of your commitment to it. It claims that I support Harvey Weinstein - someone about whom I know almost nothing. I do not believe I could recognize him in photographs. The Independent also claims that my audience have deserted me - yet this month I have completed my most successful UK tour, selling 22,000 tickets in London alone, selling out concerts at Alexandra Palace, The London Palladium, Brixton Academy and The Royal Albert Hall, all played within the space of 8 days. The Independent has an almost breathless capacity for misinformation and deception. Its uncontested rules of hate are like a fully drawn bow aiming its arrow at 42 targets, yet hitting none; bitter at the core, yet taking a stab, as its writer moves with one-way-or-another-you-will-remember-my-name outrage.

I am neither Loony Left nor Far Right. I am a humanitarian. I have not ever once voted in a British election because I have not ever discovered a party that represents my views. My main social concern is the abolition of the abattoir, the continued existence of which in modern times is beyond sane belief.
I confess that my life in music has been stunted by shyness, and this remains. I am too interior, and this can often seem like bone splitting arrogance. But it is not. I do not want to be like anyone else in music because there is no point. I want to bring something different into view. When I attempt to clarify, I will admit that it often sounds like an attack. I believe England can look after itself. It does not need the EU to police its laws, its thought, its borders or its liberty. It does not take a genius to arrive at this viewpoint.

Because The Independent cannot keep their own views under control, it seems obvious to me that we must source our information from alternative news outlets - they, at any rate, are telling us that we should. British mainstream media is now so politically correct that basic truth is actually impossible, and although it is obsessed with promoting social diversity they will not accept diverse opinion. Most British newspapers can only offer secrecy. When news is offered as opinion, it can only therefore be biased. Last year I completed a questionnaire for The Daily Mail in which one of their questions was ‘Whom do you most dislike?’. I replied ‘Theresa May, because of her support for killing foxes and badgers.’ The questionnaire appeared in print, but the Theresa May reply was missing because it obviously didn’t fit with the Mail’s political position as Theresa May’s personal notice-board. Journalists only ever talk to other journalists, it seems.

‘The London intellect, so pert and shallow,
like a stream that never reaches the ocean.’
E. M. Forster.


I have been criticized in the UK for so long (nowhere else!) that anything said about me no longer strikes me as a threat because I am still, after all, here. We should, I think, be striving for something more morally useful than whatever The Independent vomits out by way of spite.

Katie Boyle, who very sadly died this week, said “you have to accept [the press] telling complete lies about you. You can’t take legal action because that fans the flame.” I see what she means!


In 1887 the masthead of The New York Times began its famous slogan: All The News That’s Fit To Print.
In 2018, The masthead of The Independent should read All The Shit That’s Fit To Print. The Independent has tried to put me out of circulation: and viva hate, to that!


Morrissey

23 March 2018.

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Vulgarian
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I mention this in light of a new site & what was silence on FB after Vive. The finely tuned marketing machine that were last seen using Morrissey Official on FB are posting utterly disjointed and random things again (the image posted is on 'Central' too) which begs the question - is FB & Central being run by the same person:
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Any guesses?
Regards,
FWD.
 

Peppermint

Well-Known Member
I don't think his 'reputation' should preclude him from making an accurate observation on the state of the MSM. If grooming gangs are areal thing then his observation is a valid one. The sanest days are mad when you have someone getting jailed for making a joke with his dog making a Nazi salute yet the likes of the the Independent won't look into serious issues like grooming gangs. On another note, I see gun-control London has now edged past New York City for homicide rates. Oh well, knife deaths are just part and parcel of living in a big city I suppose.
I'm not saying it should preclude him, but it colours people's judgement, particularly in the media, who I suppose like showing a 'continuous narrative' when they quote someone. Plus, these are highly-charged issues and if you're going to make public pronouncements on them you need to really be sure of your facts and show some sensitivity if you don't want to provoke a shitstorm. He knows this. We all know he knows this. I think sometimes he just likes a shitstorm, though.

Yes, shocking news about the London crime rate, although one never knows what to believe these days. Those on the left will be blaming the cuts to the police; those on the right will be saying it's down to the incompetent (left wing) mayor, Sadiq Khan (someone else on Morrissey's shit list). Perhaps both things are true. There is no doubt we are getting news of some awful crimes though. It doesn't sound like the London I lived in many years ago.
 

reelfountain

Well-Known Member
I don't think his 'reputation' should preclude him from making an accurate observation on the state of the MSM. If grooming gangs are areal thing then his observation is a valid one. The sanest days are mad when you have someone getting jailed for making a joke with his dog making a Nazi salute yet the likes of the the Independent won't look into serious issues like grooming gangs. On another note, I see gun-control London has now edged past New York City for homicide rates. Oh well, knife deaths are just part and parcel of living in a big city I suppose.
Morrissey is right to speak up about these issues. It shows he cares about his birth country.
 

E Scott

Well-Known Member
The rising gang crime is factually true. Wood green police station in north london has about 30 speciality custody suites for young people so its huge issue and growing. Green lanes - Seven Sisters road - Tottenham high road - Kingsland road and surrounding areas all main arteries in london big issues.
 

reelfountain

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Yeah the rising violence is mainly gang on gang. It's been happening since the emergence of gangsta culture in London in the late 90s. The shootings/stabbings are mainly black on black, in line with the largely black takeover (again late 90s onwards) of white working class areas in London. Again, facts not opinions.
 

Charlie Cheswick

Well-Known Member
Charlie, I have a lot of respect for you but I do feel you're wide of the mark on this. The sexual grooming gangs, targeting almost exclusively poor white girls, were almost exclusively Muslim, and predominantly Pakistani in origin. This isn't propaganda, it's an inescapable, if unpalatable, fact. It has been established, and accepted by commentators on all sides of the political spectrum, that these men had a deeply ingrained disrespect for specifically white girls and that the authorities ignored the warnings about this for years because of a fear of appearing racist. Trying to paint the natural response to these abhorrent crimes as racist is what caused the problem in the first place. The fact that these men - who abused hundreds of vulnerable girls - were all Muslims is not an irrelevant detail. You cannot hope to resolve a problem if you cannot even address it by its name.

I'm not talking about the nonces, they are what they are. I'm talking about using that to beat the whole population with. If people are under attack they close up shop anyway so it'll be interesting getting to the bottom of this when the lot are being accused. Getting to the bottom of it doesn't have to lead to all the immigrants are this or Muslims are that. Let's get to what's behind what and cut the shit cause to be honest I don't want to be associated with a lot of what my fellow white countrymen get up to a lot of the time either.

Things I want to know, who knew what but didn't say and how widespread was it? Things I know, some Muslim men have had a thing for noncing white girls. A bit like with the Church, the noncing was disgusting but when everyone knew and did nothing, that's what tipped it over the edge. Is it that or somehow these depraved sorts found each other. The fact that there were so many makes me think that a lot of people probably did know and probably did come forward but no f***er bothered to act on it for the fear of being deemed racist. Is the Muslim view that they knew and kept it secret or that they wouldn't get help? Or both?

I've got questions, just leave me out of the silliness. I swear 50% of the stuff online is anti-Musilm. It's all very destructive rather than constructive and you don't tend to get anywhere with the former.
 

reelfountain

Well-Known Member
CC, when a body of people that you've defended for so many years turn out to be not so nice after all, the realization must be painful. I sympathize. Also, if 50 percent of people on here are anti-Muslim it might just be because they're shocked at how so many in that community have been torturing and raping white girls across the length and breadth of England for decades with total impunity.
 
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Anonymous

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It's about power and control not sex. Every war rape is part of a way to traumatise and make people weak and upset. Many victims take their own life. Men whose women and daughters are raped will break down or go completely insane and when you do you lose the ability to think straight and take the right decisions.
 
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Anonymous

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I'm not talking about the nonces, they are what they are. I'm talking about using that to beat the whole population with. If people are under attack they close up shop anyway so it'll be interesting getting to the bottom of this when the lot are being accused. Getting to the bottom of it doesn't have to lead to all the immigrants are this or Muslims are that. Let's get to what's behind what and cut the shit cause to be honest I don't want to be associated with a lot of what my fellow white countrymen get up to a lot of the time either.

Things I want to know, who knew what but didn't say and how widespread was it? Things I know, some Muslim men have had a thing for noncing white girls. A bit like with the Church, the noncing was disgusting but when everyone knew and did nothing, that's what tipped it over the edge. Is it that or somehow these depraved sorts found each other. The fact that there were so many makes me think that a lot of people probably did know and probably did come forward but no f***er bothered to act on it for the fear of being deemed racist. Is the Muslim view that they knew and kept it secret or that they wouldn't get help? Or both?

I've got questions, just leave me out of the silliness. I swear 50% of the stuff online is anti-Musilm. It's all very destructive rather than constructive and you don't tend to get anywhere with the former.
What do you say if I claim that imams are promoting rape at friday prayers behind the scenes?
 

Try Anything Twice

Consultant to the World
I believe you live in a society where there are possibilities of making good choices. I grew up knowing that for most people and most of the time life is about making a choice between the least bad of two bad alternatives. That's the way most people live around the world. That's the way I live.

Thank you for taking the time to describe your experience to me. I appreciate what you are saying. I have travelled extensively, mostly in developing countries. It definitely showed me what a privileged existence I live. One that I had not initially earned but received just through the luck of the country I was born in.

I suppose everything is relative, but I have not had a charmed life. Despite my birth country, I was born into poverty and a very dysfunctional family. Through a lot of hard work and a refusal to accept bad conditions, I’ve completely changed my circumstances. I saw lots of people around me give up and accept much less.

Although I don’t know your specific circumstances, I do empathize with what you are describing. My own experiences as well as those I’ve had abroad, have made me all the more commited to advocate for those who deserve and need more where ever they are.
 

Try Anything Twice

Consultant to the World
What do you say if I claim that imams are promoting rape at friday prayers behind the scenes?

Oh, please! Give me a break! I’ve stayed out of this particular dialogue going on because I have not heard anything about the specific rapes and crimes being discussed, being that I live in another country. I’m not saying they haven’t happened but that I’ve felt I don’t know enough about the specifics to participate effectively.

However, I read a statement like that and I can’t not speak up. I have serious doubts that that any Imams are suggesting to their followers to go rape women. That is so contrary to Islam. I will allow that maybe it happened if an Imam had “gone bad.” Because I have seen examples of religious leaders of other faiths behave contrary to their faith in outlandish and disgusting ways. Bad people exist in all segments and professions of society, including faith leaders. But I will never believe that this is an organized effort of Imams instructing men to rape.

I find your comment irresponsible and destructive. It would only inflame the situation further and extend the demonization across a group of people purely based on their faith. It in no way helps the situation. It neither comforts the survivors of rape nor would it in anyway prevent future rapes from occurring. All it does is unfairly scapegoat a group of people which may make you feel temporarily better because you labeled the problem in some way so you can make sense of it and regain your own power.

Rape is reprehensible. The men involved in these crimes need to be identified, arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Any and all involved. But that group does not contain an entire population of people based solely on their religion.
 
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Oh, please! Give me a break! I’ve stayed out of this particular dialogue going on because I have not heard anything about the specific rapes and crimes being discussed, being that I live in another country. I’m not saying they haven’t happened but that I’ve felt I don’t know enough about the specifics to participate effectively.

However, I read a statement like that and I can’t not speak up. I have serious doubts that that any Imams are suggesting to their followers to go rape women. That is so contrary to Islam. I will allow that maybe it happened if an Imam had “gone bad.” Because I have seen examples of religious leaders of other faiths behave contrary to their faith in outlandish and disgusting ways. Bad people exist in all segments and professions of society, including faith leaders. But I will never believe that this is an organized effort of Imams instructing men to rape.

I find your comment irresponsible and destructive. It would only inflame the situation further and extend the demonization across a group of people purely based on their faith. It in no way helps the situation. It neither comforts the survivors of rape nor would it in anyway prevent future rapes from occurring. All it does is unfairly scapegoat a group of people which may make you feel temporarily better because you labeled the problem in some way so you can make sense of it and regain your own power.

Rape is reprehensible. The men involved in these crimes need to be identified, arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Any and all involved. But that group does not contain an entire population of people based solely on their religion.

Then I have to break the bad news and say they have and are and not only that but they plan terrorism and genocide inside the mosques. They will use the same method as in the balkans when they went into areas with big buildings and launched grenades into those buildings. That was the first phase.

It ended with people hanging dead and crucified on their own front door and the UN soldiers had the gruesome task of taking them down and transport the bodies to burial grounds.

I am sorry if me reporting the truth in any way disrupts your world view. Rape is the most important ingredient in war and always have been and always will be. Ask any military expert out there or read about it online.
 
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vegan.cro spirit #065

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Oh, please! Give me a break! I’ve stayed out of this particular dialogue going on because I have not heard anything about the specific rapes and crimes being discussed, being that I live in another country. I’m not saying they haven’t happened but that I’ve felt I don’t know enough about the specifics to participate effectively.

However, I read a statement like that and I can’t not speak up. I have serious doubts that that any Imams are suggesting to their followers to go rape women. That is so contrary to Islam. I will allow that maybe it happened if an Imam had “gone bad.” Because I have seen examples of religious leaders of other faiths behave contrary to their faith in outlandish and disgusting ways. Bad people exist in all segments and professions of society, including faith leaders. But I will never believe that this is an organized effort of Imams instructing men to rape.

I find your comment irresponsible and destructive. It would only inflame the situation further and extend the demonization across a group of people purely based on their faith. It in no way helps the situation. It neither comforts the survivors of rape nor would it in anyway prevent future rapes from occurring. All it does is unfairly scapegoat a group of people which may make you feel temporarily better because you labeled the problem in some way so you can make sense of it and regain your own power.

Rape is reprehensible. The men involved in these crimes need to be identified, arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Any and all involved. But that group does not contain an entire population of people based solely on their religion.

LOL because we know Islam is VERY anti rape. In fact most anti rape activists are Muslim:mock:
What LA LA world do you all live in?:crazy:
 
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vegan.cro spirit #065

Guest
What do you say if I claim that imams are promoting rape at friday prayers behind the scenes?

I'd say
I believe you. For sure, and wouldn't be surprised that Moz would be
aware of this, factoring into his comments.
Infidels are fair game.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Oh, please! Give me a break! I’ve stayed out of this particular dialogue going on because I have not heard anything about the specific rapes and crimes being discussed, being that I live in another country. I’m not saying they haven’t happened but that I’ve felt I don’t know enough about the specifics to participate effectively.

However, I read a statement like that and I can’t not speak up. I have serious doubts that that any Imams are suggesting to their followers to go rape women. That is so contrary to Islam. I will allow that maybe it happened if an Imam had “gone bad.” Because I have seen examples of religious leaders of other faiths behave contrary to their faith in outlandish and disgusting ways. Bad people exist in all segments and professions of society, including faith leaders. But I will never believe that this is an organized effort of Imams instructing men to rape.

I find your comment irresponsible and destructive. It would only inflame the situation further and extend the demonization across a group of people purely based on their faith. It in no way helps the situation. It neither comforts the survivors of rape nor would it in anyway prevent future rapes from occurring. All it does is unfairly scapegoat a group of people which may make you feel temporarily better because you labeled the problem in some way so you can make sense of it and regain your own power.

Rape is reprehensible. The men involved in these crimes need to be identified, arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Any and all involved. But that group does not contain an entire population of people based solely on their religion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...en-Trump-says-illegal-immigrant-violence.html
 

Try Anything Twice

Consultant to the World

Trump is full of shit. I noticed he was back on that fake bandwagon. The last two days he’s gone back to spouting this crap which he just makes up to energize his base. It’s not based in fact. It’s like there’s a playbook of hate out there and all you have to do is insert the ethnic or religious group de jour into the allegations. I don’t trust anything he says. Ever.
 

Charlie Cheswick

Well-Known Member
CC, when a body of people that you've defended for so many years turn out to be not so nice after all, the realization must be painful. I sympathize. Also, if 50 percent of people on here are anti-Muslim it might just be because they're shocked at how so many in that community have been torturing and raping white girls across the length and breadth of England for decades with total impunity.

You misunderstand me, I'm not in the defence business, just not in the stereotyping and hate business. I'm countering the frenzy that I'm met with every day. If you want to waste your life with that shit, well it's your life. When you're about to croak you can look back and see where any of it got you or anyone else. What did you achieve?

If I put it to you that our white pervert population has been raping kids for decades too you will say, you're defending anyone not white while attacking everyone white. That's not what I'm doing f***ers. I'm pointing out that when you point the finger everyone is f***ed. Just actually deal with crimes as they happen and if there turns out to be cultural problems in a community or the authorities in the aftermath then deal with it.

You can be outraged at the offences in question, we all are, the same way I'd be angry at anyone who has commited crimes like those, whether they're Muslim, celebrities - it's ok for them to be rapey though with Moz, priests, family members of the victims, whatever. That anger is justified, as is the anger at the lack of action taken by the authorities that enabled it - in sex cases of all kinds. Our legal system and attitudes in society has often been that the victim was asking for it. We (not me) turned a blind eye while grown men picked shoolgirls up while they openly talked about their boyfriends with cars or laughed at how young Jimmy Page's girlfriend was (14). It's all wrong.

Where I'm struggling is why I should hate Muslims. I've lived my whole life among people of various backgrounds and I just don't buy it. Sure I've come across a couple of Muslims who fit the right wing narrative but then I've met wrong 'uns from all walks of life. While people are bashing Muslims and immigrants do they ever stop to look at what bought those people here? Did Muslims and immigrants cause those problems? I've seen the argument that Syrian men should have stayed and fought for their country? Against what? You were getting hit from three sides and I doubt anyone with a sane mind would have picked any of them. There's obviously a shit load more things at play and it's complicated. But it is a whole lot easier to rant about Muslims all day than do a bit of thinking about it.
 

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