MTV and my (maybe rhetorical)question(s)...

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Auntie T.

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1. Why does Mtv use the M,which stands for music, when they really play very little music?

2. Does the lack of MUSIC programming on MTV bother anyone other than me?
 
> 1. Why does Mtv use the M,which stands for music, when they
> really play very little music?

> 2. Does the lack of MUSIC programming on MTV bother anyone other
> than me?

Maybe the M for music should stand for misnomer? MTV is generally @#!!!, but why get upset about it? Many, many, many, many people have incredibly bad taste...the programmers respond to this, some people actually WANT to see that kind of stuff and, mystery to myself as it is, there are, sadly, many people like that out there! The poor lost souls are much more deserving of your pity than your wrath?!

So I say to you, don't feel annoyed be pleased that you are lucky enough to have the good sense to have found and embraced, as it were, Morrissey.
 
Maybe the M for music should stand for misnomer?

Good one..
lol
hnia
 
Vote with your remote control and watch something else. Even better, read a book or listen to some music. Get a video out. Go out for a drink with your mates. Go shopping. Have your fingernails removed while awake. Go to a Metallica gig. Eat a "meal"at Burger King.All these thing are preferable to watching the pap that is MTV. But I bet you already knew all this.
 
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> 1. Why does Mtv use the M,which stands for music, when they
> really play very little music?

> 2. Does the lack of MUSIC programming on MTV bother anyone other
> than me?

I see it as mTV now because there is so little music involved. What "music" there is, is of unmentionable quality.
 
As long as I stand a chance at seeing Britney Spears in a bikini, I can watch MTV for days!
 
> As long as I stand a chance at seeing Britney Spears in a
> bikini, I can watch MTV for days!

I wonder sometimes when i hear comments like this..
Roy isn't it hard to be attracted to someone like britney
spears that may be beautiful and sexy on the outside, but
is a absolute plain, stupid, medioacre, idiotic twit
on the inside? Isn't it hard to be attracted to someone
when you know who they really are? Can't you look into
her eyes or Christina Aguilar's and see there's nothing
there and be turned off? Or is it just the body?
If i see a good looking boy, (which is rare), i may be
attracted somewhat, but if their soul isn't very intresting
i become disgusted. Am i the only one who thinks like this?

-lazy line painter jane
 
> 1. Why does Mtv use the M,which stands for music, when they
> really play very little music?

Originally, this was MTV's intention, of having a 24 hour music
station, playing videos when it came on in 1984. Of course i was
only a year old then, so my recollection's of MTV are vague, but
i remember enough to know i saw videos and could turn MTV on and
actually watch videos, but from what i've heard, they stayed
pretty mainstream on their decisons..and as to MTV now, there is
nothing more sad and depressing, that's the words i think, best
sum up what MTV do these days and it depresses me to think..
you know, music television! How wonderful, as a lover of music,
that should be a delight, but it's a drudgery, because it's
gotten so bad the only time they show videos is in the am hours
and the ones they are show are crap! But what do i expect, i can't
possibly expect tastefullness to be observed on a cable station
do i?
> 2. Does the lack of MUSIC programming on MTV bother anyone other
> than me?

Of course, it bothers a lot of people, but what can you do?

-lazy line painter jane
 
MTV. Jennifer vs. Britney. Only one winner.

> As long as I stand a chance at seeing Britney Spears in a
> bikini, I can watch MTV for days!

Surely nothing can match up to the, er matchless Jennifer Lopez? The woman is a goddess and should have temples dedicated to her. In my humble opinion that is.
 
> I wonder sometimes when i hear comments like this..
> Roy isn't it hard to be attracted to someone like britney
> spears that may be beautiful and sexy on the outside, but
> is a absolute plain, stupid, medioacre, idiotic twit
> on the inside? Isn't it hard to be attracted to someone
> when you know who they really are? Can't you look into
> her eyes or Christina Aguilar's and see there's nothing
> there and be turned off? Or is it just the body?
> If i see a good looking boy, (which is rare), i may be
> attracted somewhat, but if their soul isn't very intresting
> i become disgusted. Am i the only one who thinks like this?

> -lazy line painter jane

Probably, Britney Spears awakes the beast in most men, so it's hard to look inside. She also plays up that virgin/slut dichotomy where she can act innocent & naive, but still be considered sexy. If you have ever seen playboy or penthouse you'd understand.

hnia
 
Re: phwar!..Look at that bit o' stuff!!!

> Probably, Britney Spears awakes the beast in most men, so it's
> hard to look inside. She also plays up that virgin/slut
> dichotomy where she can act innocent & naive, but still be
> considered sexy. If you have ever seen playboy or penthouse
> you'd understand.

> hnia

"If you look at a selection of "womens magazines" and a selection of "mens magazines" you will find that the former are full of articles on how to get yourself looking good in a bikini and the latter are full of the results! Also "mens mags" have a mainly image based content whereas "womens mags" contain may articles and advice etc...suggesting that women like to have something to read and men like to have something to do!"
(Jo Brand)

Plus regarding lazy...Jane's post, it depends what you are looking for/what you want...sure in a relationship it's nice to cover all the angles, but if you are just looking for a quick shag all you need is a bit of eye candy, in such situations talking very often spoils the effect.

Sex symbols such as Ms. Spears only need to look good, those she appeals to are never gonna meet her, and they know this and it's not as if she's gonna make a documentary, she sticks to her niche. Her videos are what three minutes longish...just enough time for the more lewd element of her following to lose there stuff and retire to bed!!!

On a different but slightly related not I found this comment by Jo Brand pretty funny too...

"Yes women are multi-taskers, for instance I can eat and masturbate at the same time!"
 
> Originally, this was MTV's intention, of having a 24 hour music
> station, playing videos when it came on in 1984. Of course i was
> only a year old then, so my recollection's of MTV are vague, but
> i remember enough to know i saw videos and could turn MTV on and
> actually watch videos, but from what i've heard, they stayed
> pretty mainstream on their decisons..and as to MTV now, there is
> nothing more sad and depressing, that's the words i think, best
> sum up what MTV do these days and it depresses me to think..
> you know, music television! How wonderful, as a lover of music,
> that should be a delight, but it's a drudgery, because it's
> gotten so bad the only time they show videos is in the am hours
> and the ones they are show are crap! But what do i expect, i
> can't
> possibly expect tastefullness to be observed on a cable station
> do i?

> Of course, it bothers a lot of people, but what can you do?

There aren't any substitutes nowadays for what MTV was once meant to be (the box channel maybe?)... obviously MTV has adopted the perfect cocktail to attract masses: pathetic music and expensive videos (preferrably with good bodies in them, this keeps you from turning the tube off right away).... but really, with all the music available through the internet, who needs the telly/radio for music purposes?

> -lazy line painter jane
 
> I wonder sometimes when i hear comments like this..
> Roy isn't it hard to be attracted to someone like britney
> spears that may be beautiful and sexy on the outside, but
> is a absolute plain, stupid, medioacre, idiotic twit
> on the inside? Isn't it hard to be attracted to someone
> when you know who they really are? Can't you look into
> her eyes or Christina Aguilar's and see there's nothing
> there and be turned off? Or is it just the body?
> If i see a good looking boy, (which is rare), i may be
> attracted somewhat, but if their soul isn't very intresting
> i become disgusted. Am i the only one who thinks like this?

> -lazy line painter jane

Men who find Britney Spears attractive aren't exactly thinking of forming a deep, meaningful relationship with her. Men (yes, this is a generality - deal with it) are very "visual;" they respond more to appearances.

There are female Morrissey fans who (besides thinking he's beautiful), pour over his lyrics, read about his likes and dislikes and generally want to know as much as they can about him. They will form little fantasies in their heads about walking through cemeteries with him.

I don't think there are too many male Britney Spears fans who care to know what her favorite color is.

I doubt most of them even own a single one of her albums.
 
It's just a bit sad to see how something that was considered so "cool" and innovative in our youth has degenerated into what we see now. In a way, it's a reflection of how the music scene went sour (almost beyond salvation, if you ask me) and that's really sad. And please don't try to explain it away by saying, "think back to when you were 13...blah blah blah" because, honestly, the state of music back then was MUCH better than it is now.

And of course, we don't HAVE to watch it and we KNOW that there is still so much good music out there beyond the commercial universe, "but stillllll!"

By the way, MTV had quite a few shows back then, too, but they were actually INTERESING: do you remember when they aired "The Young Ones" and "The Comic Strip?" Do you recall the "Al TV" specials? Or how about "The Basement Tapes" which aired videos by unsigned bands? Does "The Week in Rock" even exist anymore? If so, does it hold true to its title? Probably not.

I think someone should start up a NEW music channel that concentrates on all the GOOD music MTV isn't "allowed" to play because it might scare off the TRL fans. Ohhhhh, if only I had the money and the connections...

Perhaps I'll bounce this idea to Ted Turner. Eh, it's worth a shot.
 
> I wonder sometimes when i hear comments like this..
> Roy isn't it hard to be attracted to someone like britney
> spears that may be beautiful and sexy on the outside, but
> is a absolute plain, stupid, medioacre, idiotic twit
> on the inside? Isn't it hard to be attracted to someone
> when you know who they really are? Can't you look into
> her eyes or Christina Aguilar's and see there's nothing
> there and be turned off? Or is it just the body?
> If i see a good looking boy, (which is rare), i may be
> attracted somewhat, but if their soul isn't very intresting
> i become disgusted. Am i the only one who thinks like this?

> -lazy line painter jane

I share with you my thoughts, cause I would not stay beside "a piece of meat", "a doll", ... It hapenned once and when I looked to that wonderful creature (outside), I used to think: How can an angel be so evil? And some time ago I felt in love with a great, unique human being and everyword this lovely person says to me, sounds like a gift from God. You know, like Dorian Gray, so gentle, kind and gorgeous outside, but a horribel "thing" inside(the doll one)... Sometimes we think: I will never be able to love anymore(no matter your age), but there's often a nice person somewhere, just waiting for you, to give you all the love and real friendship a good person should give.
 
Re: All you lucky bastards!!

> 1. Why does Mtv use the M,which stands for music, when they
> really play very little music?

> 2. Does the lack of MUSIC programming on MTV bother anyone other
> than me?

All you people have no idea how lucky you are....MTV is endlessly cool compared to Germany's main music channel VIVA. Their vj's are totally degenerated and should be hospitalised, the music they play make the Vengaboys and SClub7 look good.
 
Re: All you lucky bastards!!

> All you people have no idea how lucky you are....MTV is
> endlessly cool compared to Germany's main music channel VIVA.
> Their vj's are totally degenerated and should be hospitalised,
> the music they play make the Vengaboys and SClub7 look good.

We have MTV & Channel [V] in Australia, Channel [V] is much, much better than MTV but even they ignore Morrissey & the Smiths.
 
MTV etc.

> We have MTV & Channel [V] in Australia, Channel [V] is much,
> much better than MTV but even they ignore Morrissey & the
> Smiths.

Don't you watch "Rage" on the ABC?

T.P.U. xxx
 
Re: MTV etc.

> Don't you watch "Rage" on the ABC?

> T.P.U. xxx

Yep but that's only 11pm(ish) to 5am on Fridays & Saturdays, won't get any Morrissey on a Friday because it's only New stuff & the charts, Saturdays you may be lucky to get a "Token" Smiths song, depending on who the guest programmer is.
 
Re: MTV etc.

> Yep but that's only 11pm(ish) to 5am on Fridays & Saturdays,
> won't get any Morrissey on a Friday because it's only New stuff
> & the charts, Saturdays you may be lucky to get a
> "Token" Smiths song, depending on who the guest
> programmer is.

yeah but it's run by triple j and from the sounds of things it's vastly superior to what everyone else is being served up.

T.P.U. xxx
 
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