Jukebox Jury
Retired
Have you got your SIA badge then Phill?!
I mean I am on the door, not the doorman... just taking cash transactions for those willing to part with £3
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Have you got your SIA badge then Phill?!
A) No they are not oxymorons. But you are
B) If Paul made a fortune out of Maladjusted, enforced a law that only he could run Smiths nights in Manchester, then charged £40 to get in hence adding to his fortune then I will be first in the queue to stab him in the back. That would be justified. But as he will not be able to force such a law and free comptetion in place, Paul will hopefully just tick along nicely for putting on a night once a month. Assuming everyone pays to get in that is.
C) Good at what they do - ie exploiting a cheap and demorilised 3rd world workforce, paying a pittance under poor working conditions, no rights or health care, under cutting smaller business', putting local business' out of trading, creating monopolys. Not sure how / why you put Morrissey into the comment.
My last word on the subject - What if everyone took your attitude? There would be no more Maladjusted. So come along with the aim of paying to get in or stay away. Simple as that. I could have just bluntly told you to 'f*** off', but that would be far to impolite for a doorman.
As mentioned, it would be helpful if you brought the correct change with you - no smart arse bags of 1p coins either. One pound or two pound coins will be fine. See you there.
Jukebox Jury's Final Verdict.
The last alcove of the defeated: petty insults.
OK, seeing as it has been Liam I've been responding to and said that was my last word, here is my last word to you!!
It wasn't a petty insult, it was a joke, hence the , if I wanted to insult I would!
I'm sure Paul appreciates what a loyal friend you are. If he decided to charge £40, but enough people were willing to pay, then what would the problem be? If no one was willing to pay he'd either have to go back to £3 or stop doing it. If that happened I'm sure you'd just start your own disco somewhere. Why the need to stab him in the back for him being successful, apart from simple jealously?
You missed my point out about if Paul got a law passed that stated his could be the only Smiths night in town and then he charges £40. Then there is something wrong with that. It's a bit like Man United putting up the prices because they know for every 2 fans leaving there are 6 waiting. Legally within the law, but morally bankrupt. If Paul simply charged £40 then he is welcome to it and yes someone else would start one up and I'd have no need for the preverbial stab in the back.
Yes, making items that people want at prices people can afford to pay is simply terrible and should be aganist the law... And I'd like to know why you'd rather those people in the 3rd world have no job at all rather than at least a relativley lowly paid one?
The point is we have the power to change that, as consumers we can change that. If everyone bought free range eggs there would not be any more battery hens. If we all buy goods that have fair trade then the sweatshop owners will change their style and introduce fair trade and accept their profits of billions will be cut slightly but still will be billions. How many billions do they need? Then those poorly paid workers will be paid more - not a lot, but more. They will always have jobs as we in the west always have to consume, so rather than 'feel good for yourself' for keeping someone in a sweatshop by buying cheap goods, you will be doing them more of a favour by not buying those cheap goods as pretty soon their employees will change their methods.
It may cost a little bit more on your shopping bill each week but that is a price im prepared to pay.
Ethics not pro£££it$. There is enough for everyone to go round.
Let it known that the money I saved by not paying at the door was delightfully spent on Apple and Raspberry J20s. And will be again.
Let it known that the money I saved by not paying at the door was delightfully spent on Apple and Raspberry J20s. And will be again.
The point is we have the power to change that, as consumers we can change that. If everyone bought free range eggs there would not be any more battery hens. If we all buy goods that have fair trade then the sweatshop owners will change their style and introduce fair trade and accept their profits of billions will be cut slightly but still will be billions. How many billions do they need? Then those poorly paid workers will be paid more - not a lot, but more. They will always have jobs as we in the west always have to consume, so rather than 'feel good for yourself' for keeping someone in a sweatshop by buying cheap goods, you will be doing them more of a favour by not buying those cheap goods as pretty soon their employees will change their methods.
It may cost a little bit more on your shopping bill each week but that is a price im prepared to pay.
Ethics not pro£££it$. There is enough for everyone to go round.
three Morrissey fans refused to pay on the night.
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the claim that only 3 people were let in for free has been confirmed as A LIE~! by a source very close to the promoter of the night. Sounds to me like a certain unlicenced doorman is very bad at his job...
Jukebox Jury Defending His Corner Well.
I find it very difficult to believe that you check every single good you buy to ensure it was made by small family run business in New Moston.
The huge increase in working conditions in the UK over the later part of the 19th and throughout the 20th century was not due to people boycotting firms, but instead buying from firms which increased profit margins and enabled more money to spend on wages and improving conditions.
mspendl828 Still Not Paying.
I shop in Unicorn, an ethical supermarket in Chorlton or eighth day on Oxford Rd, and a bottle of wine from my local Co-op with a fair trade logo on it. It's quite easy to shop - do they have to be produced in New Moston?
A huge increase in working conditions were also to do a hell of a lot with the rise in trade unionism and workers rights.
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mspendl828 Still Not Paying.
It's a shame Grim, but needs must
Actually, while I'm online, can I just say how much I love all-seater stadiums? They're awesome.
I think you are the type who throws popcorn from the darkest cinema seats on unsuspecting students & other not full price paying patrons, am I correct?
P.s. Aziza was that not the name of a band with certain ex-Smiths in it?