lainey
Active Member
I'm never watching this again. It makes me sad someone treats him like that, no respect at all.
Who? The man who shouts abuse or the man who tells him to leave?
Moz and the heckler
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Who? The man who shouts abuse or the man who tells him to leave?
Ilford Dads Club
New Member
I would suggest that as his head is so far up his arse these days, there are probably very few moments when he isn't f***ing himself.
Jukebox Jury
Retired
Bloody hell, which side of the bed did you get up from?
Read the very second post in this thread that I wrote for my view on the incident. The sense of humour bit was referring to the original comment made by Morrissey about Hamburg (which you are correct, wasn't in the clip) not about what he did during the clip
Jukebox Jury
Gregor Samsa
I straighten up, and my position is one of hope.
Wow... There's so much Moz-Hate on this f***ing forum! Why the hell do you degenerates waste your precious time with thousands of posts on a man you so genuinely despise? Is it worth it? Is the Limp Bizkit forum still deactivated?
Quiffaa
Love me outside Mzlicious
native german ears say (courtesy of typing fingers): moz was right
Moz' comment re the inhabitants of hamburg who should be called hamburgists
wasn't side-splittingly funny but why should it?
Remember the 'I am a Donut' way of a double - meaning of a placename ?
(see: JFK in Berlin)
Not only vegetarians, but plenty of people from Hamburg aren't too happy with a term which describes them as a 'sandwich consisting of a cooked patty of ground flesh'
So obviously it was kindness from Mozzers side with a humourous twinkle in the eye.
Germans under 50 know enough english
to realise mozzers comment wasn't derogatory or ridiculing people
to fully understand the meaning of 'F U'
An attention seeking guy who insults his professed love ...
Love is no excuse, there was/is no need to take shit ,
Mozzer handled the situation fine
(Would you like to continue working in an environment with a heckler if you could prevent it?)
Moz' comment re the inhabitants of hamburg who should be called hamburgists
wasn't side-splittingly funny but why should it?
Remember the 'I am a Donut' way of a double - meaning of a placename ?
(see: JFK in Berlin)
Not only vegetarians, but plenty of people from Hamburg aren't too happy with a term which describes them as a 'sandwich consisting of a cooked patty of ground flesh'
So obviously it was kindness from Mozzers side with a humourous twinkle in the eye.
Germans under 50 know enough english
to realise mozzers comment wasn't derogatory or ridiculing people
to fully understand the meaning of 'F U'
An attention seeking guy who insults his professed love ...
Love is no excuse, there was/is no need to take shit ,
Mozzer handled the situation fine
(Would you like to continue working in an environment with a heckler if you could prevent it?)
Anker Ignis Fatuus Von K.
Fumbling politeness
I felt sorry for Moz but also a bit for the heckler. What he said was stupid and inappropriate, but English wasn't his first language, so I think he got something totally wrong. Which is of course no reason to say something as rude and immature as he said, but a lot of people are just not very intelligent, we all know that.
I saw him when he was "escorted" out of the venue by a security person, the look on his face was somewhere between pure confusion and shortly before starting to cry. The security guy dragged him out so aggressively, it looked like the arrest of a dangerous criminal, whilst everyone was whistling and booing at him, it was truly humiliating.
Of course it was his own fault and I don't believe that Moz wanted to humiliate anyone. The situation just got out of hand and turned out quite nasty, but you can't really blame Morrissey for that. I don't believe he enjoyed exercising the power he had over him.
When Morrissey lets the guy speak in the microphone he's at some point trying to say something like "I got confused...", but Moz doesn't let him speak out. He doesn't even give him the chance to explain himself, which is the only thing I would criticise about Moz in this situation. Otherwise I can understand Moz.
I saw him when he was "escorted" out of the venue by a security person, the look on his face was somewhere between pure confusion and shortly before starting to cry. The security guy dragged him out so aggressively, it looked like the arrest of a dangerous criminal, whilst everyone was whistling and booing at him, it was truly humiliating.
Of course it was his own fault and I don't believe that Moz wanted to humiliate anyone. The situation just got out of hand and turned out quite nasty, but you can't really blame Morrissey for that. I don't believe he enjoyed exercising the power he had over him.
When Morrissey lets the guy speak in the microphone he's at some point trying to say something like "I got confused...", but Moz doesn't let him speak out. He doesn't even give him the chance to explain himself, which is the only thing I would criticise about Moz in this situation. Otherwise I can understand Moz.
I am a Ghost
New Member
He was only trying to sing along to "Is It Really So Strange?".
jamescagney
Stood at the urinal
Why are you here again? Just like to argue?
I find it funny that the same people who blast Morrissey's actions in Hamburg act just like him every single day.
Some of these people have no problem jumping down someone's throat and using obscenities, as long as they're giving, never receiving.
Some display a sense of personal entitlement to do and say anything they want, no matter how offensive or abrasive, while criticizing others as being somehow out of line and not entitled to hold or respond with a different opinion.
I think some people are better than others at applying the same set of standards to themselves and to others. Some people seem to be better than others at imagining what it would be like to be in someone else's shoes.
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dunya
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The fan misunderstood and sent insult back for what he thought was insult. A mistake.
Morrissey had a hall full of people giving him adoration and he decided to focus on and publicly humiliate the one person who didnt. A mistake.
What's the point of insisting one or the other should have behaved differently?
Who never makes mistakes? Raise your hand....
More to be concerned are those who don't learn from their mistakes.
Morrissey had a hall full of people giving him adoration and he decided to focus on and publicly humiliate the one person who didnt. A mistake.
What's the point of insisting one or the other should have behaved differently?
Who never makes mistakes? Raise your hand....
More to be concerned are those who don't learn from their mistakes.
Anker Ignis Fatuus Von K.
Fumbling politeness
Claudia2006
Banned
The people who spend all their time here complaining about everything Morrissey says and does just like to hear themselves talk. By finding fault with almost his every move and repeating the same criticisms over and over they're not saying a thing about him at all, they're just broadcasting how unhappy their own little meaningless lives are by spending their time this way.
jamescagney
Stood at the urinal
How many Grammy award-winning albums have those people written, I wonder... Maybe it's sour grapes. Or the human penchant for rooting for the underdog and hating when their friends become successful.
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Our Lady
New Member
Are you Greek?
Claudia2006
Banned
I think it's just typical behavior of insecure people - they have to make others appear smaller than they are in order to feel better about themselves. It's normal for everybody to do this from time to time IMO, but it's not normal for someone to come to a fan website every day just to boost their own ego by criticizing others. They're worthy of pity and eye rolls and not much else.
jamescagney
Stood at the urinal
Actually, to be honest I was more interested in disproving the racial generalizations so many anti-American Brits and Europeans here love to toss out. But I didn't focus on any one race or country, just continents.
jamescagney
Stood at the urinal
Since you brought up eye rolling
rolleyes... I notice that assholes on this site seem to love using the 
emoticon a LOT.
Max Bialy
Girlfriend in Tacoma
Yeah. And telling the spectator "you can f*** yourself" after throwing him out for saying the same thing? Pot, kettle...
Jukebox Jury
Retired
Re: native german ears say (courtesy of typing fingers): moz was right
At the opening night of the Hacienda, Bernard Manning was being heckled. He turned to the heckler/s and said
'Say what ever you want, but one question - how are you getting home tonight? Me, I'm going home in my f***ing Rolls Royce'
That's how you deal with them!
Jukebox Jury
At the opening night of the Hacienda, Bernard Manning was being heckled. He turned to the heckler/s and said
'Say what ever you want, but one question - how are you getting home tonight? Me, I'm going home in my f***ing Rolls Royce'
That's how you deal with them!
Jukebox Jury
jamescagney
Stood at the urinal
Fair enough, I've edited my post to remove the offending portion.
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