Morrissey - Suedehead - track 1 - Saro's Spotify pride month playlist

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Anonymous, Jun 19, 2019.

By Anonymous on Jun 19, 2019 at 2:49 PM
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    Morrissey - Suedehead - Track 1 - Saro's Spotify Pride Month Playlist

    Morrissey, "Suedehead"

    "This song is reminiscent of one of the first sexual relationships I had. 'Why do you come here when you know it makes things hard for me?' To me, this song represents the aloofness or inability to commit that is the final line of defense protecting your heart from breaking."

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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Anonymous, Jun 19, 2019.

    1. Oh my
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      Androgynous is my favourite Replacements song!
      I don't see Throbbing Gristle as a band that was interested in gender roles, even if Coum Transmissions (their performance group) was often very explicit about sex, but it was not really a LGTB oriented group (probably the glam albums of Bowie are by far more LGBT oriented than T G.).
      The late Psychic TV moved a bit into that area... And Coil certainly was openly a gay band.
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    2. Anonymous
      I wasn’t talking about there, throbbing gristles, music but rather him and his transition when I mentioned gender as well as the fact that grace of against me who also transitioned stayed married to his/her wife (reminded me of morrisseys humasexual perspective). This to me makes them worthy of inclusion on a list even if throbbing gristles music isnt about gender. I don’t have a fav replacements song as I just find it impossible to choose. Laura Jane grace of against me did a cover of that song not to long ago with Joan Jett and miley Cyrus
    3. Ketamine Sun
      Ketamine Sun
      I have Wreckers of civilization.

      it’s too bad, Cosey’s book really gives one insight to the real TG story and not the false one that Genesis has built up over the years, I beg you to read it, it’s a fun read too.

      Coum/TG were not focused strictly as a LGTB band/project, but I'm sure we both can agree that they were actually
      beyond that in their scope/exploration of sound and ideas that it inherently welcomes anyone that cares and dares to see the the world in a different
      way, empowering and rewarding.

      Edit... Trill troll triggered, not surprised.
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      Probable Cosey's book is interesting, though I assume I know which one is her version (i.e, that Genesis is a psychopath of sorts, which is mostly what every person who has worked with him has to say about him... and I know it's true. I like him as an artist though).
      TG & Coum were not really focused on LGTB themes... Though obviously they didn't have any problem with it... Derek Jarman was almost a honorary fifth member (and then kept on collaborating with Coil and PTV)... Peter Christopherson was openly gay, etc. I simply meant that it was not truly their focus (whilst LGTB subjects somehow became the core of Coil, which is probably the most interesting band that emerged from TG).
      It is nice how Coil has quoted The Smiths a few times. This one is my favourite:

      Oh, yes... the trolls....
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    5. Ketamine Sun
      Ketamine Sun
      Yeah I’ve heard stories from people who have personally worked with him, didn’t really think much of it until I read her book. I agree, as an artist he’s certainly interesting and has done good work, it’s just unfortunate that he took credit for a lot of ideas that were never his, just glad that Cosey Chris and Peter set the record straight with her book.
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      He's a great artist... and somehow a control freak.
      Then again, seeing him on a stage is fantastic.... but his personality is problematic.
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