Morrissey & Personality Type

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On a discussion forum describing itself as a 'personality type indicator community', some members have been speculating how Morrissey would fare after sitting the most common such test, the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator - http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/popular-culture-type/29979-morrissey.html

Here's how results are interpreted:
- THE FOUR DICHOTOMIES, DEMYSTIFIED:

It's in your best interest to be somewhat balanced in these dichotomies rather than extreme, and that's one thing we hope you take away from this site. This is a scale, so no one is either one ALL the time.

J/P -- Judging/Perceiving. Judging types don't always carry gavels. If you're a Judging type, that means you're diligent, focused, organized, driven, and anal-retentive. If you're a Perceiving type, that means you're sloppy, disorganized, unmotivated, indecisive, and happy-go-lucky. Those with strong Judging preferences were never really youthful, and those with strong Perceiving preferences never really grow up.

E/I -- Extraversion/Introversion. Extraverts are the cool, social people who go to all the parties, and impress people. Introverts are the misunderstood nerds who sit at home reading and surfing the Internet all day. As you might have guessed, most of us are Introverts. So please take some pity and speak to us poor, pasty-faced nerds who pine away in front of our monitors?

T/F -- Thinking/Feeling. Feeling types are compassionate, sensitive people who put the happiness of people first. Thinking type are very logical, independent, accomplished, and know how to do things. However, you could also say Thinking types are heartless, arrogant jerks who treat people like machines, and Feeling types are insipid, dependent, conflict-avoiding basket cases.

S/N -- Sensing/Intuition. Sensing types are practical, no-nonsense people when it comes to dealing with things. They are well attuned to the world around them, and know how to deal with it. Intuitive types are creative, insightful people who have an advantage in Science, Philosophy, Psychology, and Poetry. In pretty much everything else and everyday life, however, Sensors excel and surpass Intuitives. So if we seem critical of Sensors, know it's out of jealousy, fear, and bitterness, and don't take it personally.

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THE COGNITIVE FUNCTIONS, DEMYSTIFIED

Ni -- Introverted Intuition (not Nickel, which I know is what you thought). Allows you to see ideas from different perspectives, as well as have unusual insights or hunches that are often useful. And for the last time, it does NOT make you psychic (normally).

Ne -- Extraverted Intuition. It thinks it's less of a nerd than Introverted Intuition. Kidding aside, this allows you to see patterns and connections in theories, see several possibilities in a situation, and make an annoying number of puns and play-on words.

Fe -- Extraverted Feeling. Hello everyone, this is the function that observes commonly held social rules and pleasantries, and is very concerned with the welfare of the group. If you don't have this function, then you're a rude person, and I don't want to be seen with you.

Fi -- Introverted Feeling. Very shy, deeply held values based on an internal sense of good and evil. Introverted Feelers are often lost in the depth of their own emotion, and have trouble expressing those emotions outwardly. If you've read Shakespeare or Milton, you may have seen Fi. (Notice I didn't joke about them, because they're SO sensitive.)

Ti -- Introverted Thinking. Introverted thinking is always trying to uncover the specific rules that govern a system, and typically sees everything as a system. So basically, Ti nitpicks and criticizes everything from social conventions to grammar to government policies, and is fairly anti-social.

Te -- Extraverted Thinking. "Hey, work faster, you slacker! You're losing us time and money!" Extraverted Thinking is a blunt function that is results-oriented, much like that angry boss. Extraverted Thinking follows rules to the letter, and uses the most efficient procedure known to work that will get the job done.

Se -- Extraverted Sensing. This is basically paying attention to what goes on around you, and living the moment. You use this if you like to burn yourself on a hot stove, run laps, ride a bike, go swimming, etc. If you want to use it right now, pay attention to what's going on around you at the moment. Don't try to connect it with anything, or think about what it means, what went before, or what's coming after. Just watch and experience. Let go of your mind. Side effects may include lack of forethought, and overindulgence. This is also what causes you to eat that box of chocolates instead of sticking to your diet, or finish watching that TV program instead of shutting it off and going back to work/bed. Now you can just say, "That was Se's fault, not mine!"

Si -- Introverted Sensing. Very routine, habitual, and boring. It's based on a desire to do things the way they've always been done... day after day, year after year, century after century. Obviously, people with this function dislike change. They accept things without question, and preserve what's familiar, and often try to align things with their internal idea of what things are supposed to be like, garnered from early experiences. But the plus side is, they have good memories, and are very organized and conscientious people. If you want something done a certain way with no questions asked, they are your best resource. -

Wiki link for more background etc = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator
 

Raven

New Member
This is an interesting question and one I have pondered on before. I'm a qualified practitioner and reckon he is INFJ. As you're probably aware the combination of the 4 letters is what creates a type. This is a little bit on INFJ - uncanny I think!!

Beneath the quiet exterior, INFJs hold deep convictions about the weightier matters of life. Those who are activists -- INFJs gravitate toward such a role -- are there for the cause, not for personal glory or political power.

INFJs are champions of the oppressed and downtrodden. They often are found in the wake of an emergency, rescuing those who are in acute distress. INFJs may fantasize about getting revenge on those who victimize the defenseless. The concept of 'poetic justice' is appealing to the INFJ.

"There's something rotten in Denmark." Accurately suspicious about others' motives, INFJs are not easily led. These are the people that you can rarely fool any of the time. Though affable and sympathetic to most, INFJs are selective about their friends. Such a friendship is a symbiotic bond that transcends mere words.

INFJs have a knack for fluency in language and facility in communication. In addition, nonverbal sensitivity enables the INFJ to know and be known by others intimately.

Writing, counseling, public service and even politics are areas where INFJs frequently find their niche.
 

Raven

New Member
Also, these descriptions (I understand taken from this site) are dreadful. They are hugely sweeping statements and very judgemental. None of the preferences should be perceived as negative. But then I am an INTJ so I would say that.
 
Also, these descriptions (I understand taken from this site) are dreadful. They are hugely sweeping statements and very judgemental. None of the preferences should be perceived as negative. But then I am an INTJ so I would say that.

That's true. For example, I am an INFP (I think) and I definitely don't fit the 'happy-go-lucky' or 'youthful' part of the 'Perceiving' definition. Morrissey does seem like he would be an INFJ generally though.
 
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Scarlet Ibis

The Chicken of D.C.
I've always figured him for someone on the cusp of INFP and INFJ. He has aspects of both personality types at once.
 

Jackie London

♥ Howlin' Pelle
This is an interesting question and one I have pondered on before. I'm a qualified practitioner and reckon he is INFJ. As you're probably aware the combination of the 4 letters is what creates a type. This is a little bit on INFJ - uncanny I think!!

How interesting! What exactly do you study to become an qualifid practitioner? And how do you work with that? In which areas are Myers-Briggs used today?
I haven't really studied Myers-Briggs that much so I don't really know that much about it. But isn't the whole point to measure peoples perception of the world? So is it even possible to evaluate someone else (e.g. Morrissey)?

The first time I read about the test there was something that disturbed me that I've always wanted to ask someone about. The persons that made the test to begin with claimed to be inspired by Jung. But in the test you yourself answer different questions about yourself and your own perception, which requires that you have quite a good self-knowledge and is aware about your perception. And Jung in his work mostly talks about depth psychology, dreams, the unconscious etc. and things that it's generally accepted that the individual is not aware about, generally within the field of depth psycology it's given that the individual actually isn't that aware about themselves. Isn't this Myers-Briggs indicator the opposite of that? How is that compatible with Jung? Do they base these personality types on Jungs archetypes? Becuase Jung meant that the archetypes are products of the collective unconscious...
 

Aly

New Member
I'm a qualified practitioner and reckon he is INFJ.

Although I'm certainly not a qualified practitioner myself, that would have been my first guess (though perhaps that was also a little bit of wishful thinking, since I'm apparently an INFJ myself :blushing:). The description you posted does sound uncannily similar to what we know about Morrissey's personality though!

I think though, that no matter how much we try to analyze him and however close we think we get (and fun as it is to do so!), Morrissey is too unique to fit any label. He's still very much indefinable.

What was it Oscar Wilde said? "To define is to limit." :)
 

PregnantForTheLastTime

Hideous trait.
We had a thread about this a few years ago in off-topic (no, don't worry, I'm not going to link to it) and the consensus was that Morrissey must be an INFJ. We also had a poll to see what the distribution of "types" among members here was, and found that we are overwhelmingly INFPs, INFJs, INTJs, and INTPs. Those are the four least-common types among the general population. :rolleyes:
 

Anaesthesine

Angel of Distemper
We had a thread about this a few years ago in off-topic (no, don't worry, I'm not going to link to it) and the consensus was that Morrissey must be an INFJ. We also had a poll to see what the distribution of "types" among members here was, and found that we are overwhelmingly INFPs, INFJs, INTJs, and INTPs. Those are the four least-common types among the general population. :rolleyes:

I think "Introverted" is the operative word here...
 

Raven

New Member
In what ? :confused:

In a number of things but I was referring to MBTI. You have to complete a qualification in order to buy and use the official MBTI questionnaire. There are a lot of freebie ones on the net, but they're not very good.
 

Raven

New Member
How interesting! What exactly do you study to become an qualifid practitioner? And how do you work with that? In which areas are Myers-Briggs used today?

You just do a qualification in MBTI. It's a 5 day programme where you cover background, theory and application but it doesn't really go into Jung. I understand that the whole theory is based on Jung's but I can't comment on how and where because I don't know much about it! I use it in coaching and learning and development - some people find it helpful to understand why they can't get on with a boss or are feeling frustrated in their job etc.
 
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