CrystalGeezer
My secret's my enzyme.
sʎoq doɥs ʇəd əɥʇ ɥʇıʍ pəpɹoɔəɹ llɐ əʌ,ʎəɥʇ
How on earth did you do this? This is more miraculous than walking on water!
sʎoq doɥs ʇəd əɥʇ ɥʇıʍ pəpɹoɔəɹ llɐ əʌ,ʎəɥʇ
sʎoq doɥs ʇəd əɥʇ ɥʇıʍ pəpɹoɔəɹ llɐ əʌ,ʎəɥʇ
Here I am, here to cast Morrissey's demons out, with the cross of disco.Paging an exorcist. Is there an exorcist in the house?
you have to hold the keyboard upsidedownHow on earth did you do this? This is more miraculous than walking on water!
somehow that reminds me of this picture of Linda Blair I saw in an old Creem magazine. She's about 14 and is hanging out with the members of Lynyrd Skynyrd.Paging an exorcist. Is there an exorcist in the house?
whatever do you mean, pieces of meat?
i'm in no way making an argument in regards to the talent of these women, the value of the dance or the moral high ground of should one engage in dancing like this but rather i think this illustrates the point of 'pieces of meat'. their faces aren't seen (or rarely and out of focus), in most places they are cropped off. the dark scenes towards the end with fluroscent clothing accentuates only their bits. the camera angle is from below, behind, or from the top.
betty friedan would be rolling in her grave.
as a 'frinker' i don't think you are. morrissey is not faceless to you. he comes with a personality and character. there is no fault in finding someone attractive or sexy but to totally reduce them from what makes them human to a shaking pair of breasts or cheeks i find disturbing. in the frink thread do you just have pictures of random bits that you ogle over regardless to whom they belong?
all i know is that young girls watching this would be getting a distorted view of their role as women in a society. one video does no harm but it is the accumulated information from skanky childrenwear to music, to ads, to celebrities and their eating disorder of the month, posh spice and her rockmelon breasts that has such a massive impact. kids as young as 7 are dieting and hating parts of their bodies. mother's are caught in the trap too, constantly judging and criticising their own appearance. is there any wonder why teenagers are one of the highest groups in society having plastic surgery?
i realise this a total hijack and i apologise.
of course, raunchy lyrics aren't a new thing. have a listen to bessie smith's 'i need a little sugar in my bowl' or diniah washington's 'long john blues'. sexuality had its place as a part of life but now it seems that it is life and the extent to which we see it, perceive it seems to be constantly on the rise (pardon the pun). you open a magazine and you see britney spears or 'firecrotch' going commando, celebrities release sex tapes intentonally in order to revive sagging careers. i, personally, can't help but wonder how much further can i go? am i old fashioned? maybe. i don't when that happened.
okay let the flames start for what i am about to post next. it is only one example and yes, it's nearly 30 years old and times change blah, blah, blah but this is what i saw as a young child.
it's pop, the women aren't dressed as nuns, it's fun and to a young child, innocent. these women were seen as sex symbols so it's by no means asexual or puritan. there is no sultry gazing into the camera, pouted lips nor is the primary aim to 'seduce' the viewer.
of course, raunchy lyrics aren't a new thing. have a listen to bessie smith's 'i need a little sugar in my bowl' or diniah washington's 'long john blues'. sexuality had its place as a part of life but now it seems that it is life and the extent to which we see it, perceive it seems to be constantly on the rise (pardon the pun). you open a magazine and you see britney spears or 'firecrotch' going commando, celebrities release sex tapes intentonally in order to revive sagging careers. i, personally, can't help but wonder how much further can i go? am i old fashioned? maybe. i don't when that happened.
And there were never so many obese people. What feels good is available now (and it wasn't so available 30 years ago). Of course people are going to overindulge in it. The only boundaries are those we set for ourselves, and that results in no boundaries at all, because it's not in our nature to deny ourselves little or big pleasures. That's how we evolved - eat/mate whenever you can.
Kylie is not the most physically beautiful woman I've ever seen. I do like her character. I've seen many sexy women but just as I've seen many sexy or beautiful men, I don't listen to their music often just because of that. I listen to Kylie frequently because I find her to be refreshingly positive about having a pulse.Red:
I am not calling Kylie a slag.
I am not suggesting that beautiful women are bad.
I am saying that beautiful women should not be given praise and success because they are beautiful. Beauty is something that they were born with and had no part in achieving...And the halo effect is very well-known.
I would consider many women that I know and like to be beautiful, but the reason I like them is for their character. I do not judge people for their looks whether they are attractive or not.
Your list of experiences became unbearable for me to read- I found it extremely distressing, but in a way what I am fighting for is the same as you; we just disagree over the idea that women being repeatedly shown in a sexual way leads to liberation. I believe that women being portrayed as sexual beings leads to the idea that their ROLE is to please sexually. Yes, women can be sexy, but this is not the reason for their existence! It should not be expected of us.
With the repeated portrayal of sexual women comes a sort of desensitisation, a lack of respect for women's bodies, and in the end the idea that women are things to own, pieces of meat that men have the RIGHT to violate. I don't believe that men are any worse than women, or that they are stupid and easy to manipulate, but what I do believe is that those few men with abhorrent views on women have their ideas supported by the media- and in reality, people are a lot more suggestible than many would believe.
I know you likely won't understand this, because Kylie is likely just tits and ass to you.
A support group for Kylie fans sounds good. Thanks for being level headed for me:}God! If it upsets you that much that Morrissey doesn't appreciate your precious Kylie, go and find a Kylie forum where everyone will be wittering on like you about how soulful and meaningful she is.
People on here don't care.
At the end of singing 'crashing bores', he rants about having been everywhere and that there are crashing bores everywhere, ...and then he repeats 'kylie minogue', a few times, all the while wearing a playboy t-shirt with a typical photo of a female sex doll. I think I will cut down drastically on my Morrissey intake. He's toxic.
A support group for Kylie fans sounds good. Thanks for being level headed for me:}