Morrissey on Graham Norton tonight - Mando Instagram (Oct. 5, 2017)

UPDATE Oct. 6:

An anonymous person posted:

Mando already said that they will be on air on the 27th. This should be episode 5.


as posted by Mando Lopez they will be in Graham Norton tonight.

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Quando quando quando

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True.

You see this with many aged celebrities whose careers start to wane. They can't attract the youth, so they start to pander to their remaining audience who has aged with them.

As people grow older, uglier, and more isolated they cling to to things like nostalgia, xenophobia and anything that props up their illusion of a better time. Change is terrifying to most people.

Not everyone falls into this trap as they age, but there's definitely an average that does.

One of the worst aspects of growing older is having to be surrounded by them. They automatically think because you're older that you share the same values, and interests as they do. They say things to you in private that make you shake your head, and want to puke.

It can't be that awful.
You must be joking.
 

Southport Grandma

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I really wish Morrissey would play All The Young People on the show, I have it on constant repeat right now. It sounds like some kind of jazzy New Orleans polka rant being knocked out a midnight in a crowded speakeasy, LOL. I love it.

Agreed, it sounds like something by Dr John.
 

ninetimesfined

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True.

You see this with many aged celebrities whose careers start to wane. They can't attract the youth, so they start to pander to their remaining audience who has aged with them.

As people grow older, uglier, and more isolated they cling to to things like nostalgia, xenophobia and anything that props up their illusion of a better time. Change is terrifying to most people.

Not everyone falls into this trap as they age, but there's definitely an average that does.

One of the worst aspects of growing older is having to be surrounded by them. They automatically think because you're older that you share the same values, and interests as they do. They say things to you in private that make you shake your head, and want to puke.

With respect, much of what you say is total bullshit.

I see many younger people carrying Smiths records in the small city I live in. I’m in my 30s and discovered Morrissey in his wilderness years. The Smiths and Moz continue to attract new, younger listeners.

The racism patter has been around since the early 1990s too so that’s nothing new
 
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A warm welcome to you Shyness :thumb:
Everything you need to know is documented on here in the archives.
For your homework this weekend I'd like you to research "Cheese-gate"

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Look Folks, Benefit is having conversations with himself again...there literally is no end to his twattishness.

The multiple spelling and punctuation errors always give you away.
 
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It can't be that awful.
You must be joking.

It depends on where you live, who you are friends with, and if you have more to do in your life than "shooting the breeze" with complete strangers.

Growing up in the eighties, it wasn't uncommon to hear an older person complain about no longer being able to say the word "n*****" in polite company. "It's just a word" was the common refrain.

You can't underestimate how much animosity that caused with a certain percentage of people who grew up casually referring to black people as "niggers" in public. They couldn't understand why it was a big deal, and bristled at the idea that public standards have and do change.

I once had a guy turn to me in line at a Walmart in the early 2000's after the black cashier was experiencing trouble, and say "We should have picked our own cotton." I stared straight ahead in disbelief that in that time, in a large city, he thought that was an opinion that a complete stranger would naturally share with him.

Then there was another time in the eighties when an elderly woman in front of us said something to the white, female cashier about "niggers," and the cashier informed her that she was married to a black man, and basically told her to shove it. Even as a kid that was an unnerving experience. You could hear a pin drop.

Oh, and not to mention adding the prefix "n*****" to numerous activities: "n***** knocking," "n***** chasers," "n*****-rigging."

And that's just black people. The stuff you would hear about Hispanics was cruel, but it was still acceptable to denigrate Hispanics at the time because of a lack of a meaningful Hispanic Civil Rights movement, and the fact that Hispanics were an ethnicity, and not a race. There were white Hispanics. Asians got it too, but they were a smaller minority, and were seen by many bigots as unwilling to fight back.

This was America. I don't think I need to tell you what region I experienced all of this in.It's not that it didn't happen elsewhere, but is was much more out in the open in the world I grew up in.

I see the same phenomenon occurring now, but it's been replaced with it no longer being acceptable to call people "f*****s," or calling all Muslim's savages. I guess that's progress, but resentment always arises when there's a call for a civility towards groups, or people who have finally gained a voice in the culture.

Racism has changed with the times. It's not an explicitly ideological thing to most people now because it's less acceptable in public. It's mostly an act of scapegoating during a time of cultural transition. Unfortunately, I think every dying generation is going to express some form of cultural resentment on their way out. It seems to be a common bug of the aging process.

The mind is a fragile thing.
 
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With respect, much of what you say is total bullshit.

I see many younger people carrying Smiths records in the small city I live in. I’m in my 30s and discovered Morrissey in his wilderness years. The Smiths and Moz continue to attract new, younger listeners.

The racism patter has been around since the early 1990s too so that’s nothing new

Sweetheart, Morrissey is not The Smiths, and this isn't 1990.

Now Steven, get your beauty rest. Tomorrow is a big day.
 
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I don't think Morrissey is racist, or even fully Right-Wing. I suspect he panders to the mood of an era to direct attention to his product.

I think he obviously holds nationalist tendencies that he is obsessed with as a single issue non-voter. With that being said, I do believe he is arrogant, flippant, and ignorant on just about any subject that doesn't involve his narrow set of personal interests.

What has concerned me about Morrissey is that many of his comments suggest that he is a Liberal person in almost every way outside of one or two issues, yet he has spent more of his social capital on issues that enable the right-wing, and almost none on issues that enable the left.

As a gay man, (don't even try) he has been almost entirely silent on issues regarding the gay and lesbian community. He claims that calling him racist doesn't make sense, yet he claimed Obama, a President who was popular, and considered black by most black people, is not a real black President.

Farage is indebted to the Monarchy, has little regard for the gay and lesbian community, would laugh at the thought of animal rights, and probably thinks black people are okay, but only in moderation, yet Morrissey calls the man a Liberal educator.

Morrissey hated Thatcher who he no longer seems to have any major political differences with. Farage isn't a socialist. Waters isn't going to turn a dying UKIP into a socialist movement, so what is left to prioritize but immigrants?

I now can only understand Morrissey's statements in relationship to what I see as an obvious attempt to maintain some kind of working class street credit that he has spent most of his career mocking, and separating himself from. He shifted towards this angle in the nineties.

Even the whole Finsbury park flag waving was a monumental backfire. Morrissey knew the den he was walking into, and decided to try and endear himself to the crowd by waving the flag. They didn't care. He was just some "fag" on stage twirling about. "Get him off." "He's making us look stupid!"

It's one thing to hold sincere, controversial beliefs. It's another to pander to them mostly for publicity. It's cheap, and artificial.
 

esteban

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I think he has done an interview. A friend went to the taping and said he had a go at the Grundian but no UKIP comments!
 

Bluebirds

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True.

You see this with many aged celebrities whose careers start to wane. They can't attract the youth, so they start to pander to their remaining audience who has aged with them.

As people grow older, uglier, and more isolated they cling to to things like nostalgia, xenophobia and anything that props up their illusion of a better time. Change is terrifying to most people.

Not everyone falls into this trap as they age, but there's definitely an average that does.

One of the worst aspects of growing older is having to be surrounded by them. They automatically think because you're older that you share the same values, and interests as they do. They say things to you in private that make you shake your head, and want to puke.

Some old people become more conservative shocker
 
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The musical guest usually does their bit at the end and then comes over to the couch for 2 minutes to shake hands with the assorted celebs and Graham, flog their CD, and then their is the Red Chair, where members of the audience are ritually humiliated as the celebs laugh hysterically. I can´t see Moz taking part in that. To say Graham Norton is not an aggressive interviewer is a massive understatement. His show is a fawning celeb love-in built around the sole purpose of allowing the invited celebs to advertise their latest movie, TV programme etc. whilst spouting pre-rehearsed anecdotes so that great hilarity is had by all. Should be right up Morrissey´s street.
 
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He needs to get his hair game on point. A super-neat buzz on the sides and back, some magnesium spray to thicken the top, a jet-powered hair dryer to get it up there. Represent that shit.
 
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Look Folks, Benefit is having conversations with himself again...there literally is no end to his twattishness.

The multiple spelling and punctuation errors always give you away.

Well, well, well ! It's my anonymouse stalker. :tiphat:
How are you pal ? Not heard from you in a while, why don't you tell us all what you think of Steve's new material/stupid outbursts/failure to chart in the top 100 etc, etc.
Or we can talk about me all day long if that's what you want :cool:

The less you ignore me the closer I get :brows:

#Oh Steve Barnett nothing to answer for

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Black Eyed

Isn't he gorgeous !!
Listening to the Graham Norton programme on R2 yesterday and just before he played "Spent the Day in Bed" he mentioned that Morrissey would be on his show in a couple of weeks. In his words "not chatting, just singing and his voice sounds great live" so this points that it has been recorded and will play as such on his show which is strange as GN's normal musical guests are live so it will be interesting to see how he introduces it.
 

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Listening to the Graham Norton programme on R2 yesterday and just before he played "Spent the Day in Bed" he mentioned that Morrissey would be on his show in a couple of weeks. In his words "not chatting, just singing and his voice sounds great live" so this points that it has been recorded and will play as such on his show which is strange as GN's normal musical guests are live so it will be interesting to see how he introduces it.

Thank you very much for the heads up.

It'd be like Alan Carr appearance in 2015.
 
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Quando quando quando

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Agreed, it sounds like something by Dr John.

Nothing wrong with that. :)
Listen to " I Was In The Right Place, But It Must Have Been The Wrong Time". :cool:
A mesmerizing artist and his full artistic name was Dr. John The Nighttripper.:squiffy:

A wonderful combination of Voodoo, New Orleans swamp music, magical, dangerous and thrilling for the fantasy. And funny.
I like all New Orleans originated music from artists like Alain Toussaint, The Meters, you name it, there are many. :thumb:
 
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