on the issue of Morrissey's virginity... ;p
I never believed that, I always thought he just made it up to avoid giving the real answer or to be flippant. I don't trust him on the issue of virginity lol - he's claimed to have been 13, and then he did an interview in his 20's saying he was a virgin. (Linder mentioned the interview in the IOBM?). Bizarre...
I can't remember the quote but I think when he was asked if he was a virgin he said 'in a profund way' which doesnt neccessaryily mean in a physical way
Plus I think it was in a diary of his that his father had that he wrote he lost his virginity at 12/13 (it is possible I have picked that thought out of nowhere
)
I remember him once being asked "When did you lose your virginity" and he said "I wasn't aware I had".
Eh, you mean claimed to have lost his virginity at 13 to avoid the 'real' answer?!
Why would anyone do that? This is the interview where he said it:
i-D, October 1987
http://foreverill.com/interviews/1987/mrsmith.htm
"When did you lose your virginity?
I've never been asked this. Actually it was in my early teens, 12 or 13. But it was an isolated incident, an accident. After that it was downhill. I've got no pleasant memories from it whatsoever."
But it was actually
not the first time he was asked that. The first time an interviewer asked him that question was 3 years earlier:
The Face, July 1984
http://foreverill.com/interviews/1984/mozface.htm
"When did you lose your virginity?
I wasn't aware that I had.
So, is virginity a state of mind?
Well (
chuckling) let's just say that you helped me out of that one."
Hmm, I would say that one sounded like trying to avoid answering? ;-) And obviously, that was the interview
J.K.Rowling was referring to in "The Importance Of Being Morrissey"...not Linder.
This interview that he'd given 3 months before that one doesn't seem to imply that he was a virgin:
Melody Maker, March 3, 1984
http://foreverill.com/interviews/1984/mm84.htm
"Or maybe Morrissey was simply frightened by the kind of physical involvement, frightened by sex, the sweat and tears, ecstasy being more easily imagined than achieved by effort or technique, and celibacy was a state of mind and body that evaded responsibility to another person.
"It's not really fear," he replied. "I just don't really have a tremendously strong belief that relationships can work. I'm really quite convinced that they don't. And, if they do, it's really quite terribly brief and sporadic. It's just something, really, that I eradicated from my life quite a few years ago and I saw things more clearly afterwards.
"I always found it particularly unenjoyable," Morrissey says of sex. "But that again is something that's totally associated with my past and the particular views I have. I wouldn't stand on a box and say, 'Look, this is he way to do it, break off that relationship at once.'
"But, for me, it was the right decision. And it's one that I stand by and I'm not ashamed or embarrassed by. It was simply provoked by a series of very blunt and thankfully brief and horrendous experiences that made me decide upon abstaining and it seems quite an easy natural decision." "
In the
Earsay interview, 1984, he also mentioned his 'few experiences' that made him lose faith in love/relationships.
Christine must be referring to the quote from from Morrissey'e diary in "
Severed Alliance". (Yes, I suppose if Johnny Rogan had really read it, it must have been Morrissey's father who gave it to him, who else could?) He allegedly wrote in November 1976, at the age of 17: "I don't have sex much... I can almost count the number of times" (!!!)
