Morrissey: "Current feminism does not help our societies and makes masculinism retaliate" - Culto

I will preface this article with a couple of caveats: firstly, it has gone through translate and secondly, context and details are lacking. It should be noted that the title is part of one question asked and not the main topic - it is a bit misleading. Only a few questions with lots of commentary/background.

In Culto (part of La Tercera), by Andrés del Real (29th July, 2018):

Morrissey: "Current feminism does not help our societies and makes masculinism retaliate"

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Morrissey: "Current feminism does not help our societies and makes masculinism retaliate"

How does a celebrity adapt to the times? Probably not being Morrissey, who, true to his style and before his return to Chile, shoots against modern feminism, the English press and "the culture of the negation of the left".
Last month, an indeterminate number of English self-styled "former admirers of Morrissey" announced on social networks a party against racism in Manchester, set for the same night that the British artist, his exidolo, would come to the city with the tour promotional of his most recent album, Low in high school. The reason? The statements that the former Smith of The Smiths had made days before, taking pity on the situation of the founder of the movement of extreme right English Defense League, Tommy Robinson, sentenced to 13 months in prison for contempt of court. Coincidence or not, days before the shows, the singer announced the cancellation of his dates in Manchester and all the rest of his European tour, due to "logistical problems".

The episode is added to the increasingly extensive list of polemics starring the soloist, who with the same voice with which for decades has captivated different generations of followers in search of an answer to their torments and depressions, has also got into a series of problems and controversies, for statements against the British monarchy -one of its favorite targets-, multicultural Europe and immigration, and even the #metoo feminist movement, relativizing the denunciations against Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey, among others. His verbal incontinence seems to go against the current tendency of his colleagues, quick to bend to all the causes that drive certain opinion leaders and many of their own followers.

But even the sharpest language at some point knows when to stop, and Steven Patrick Morrissey is no exception: consulted by Worship about what happened in Manchester, the musician opts for silence. It is the only answer that he decides to omit from a questionnaire sent via mail at his request, in which, before launching a series of darts against various causes and modern institutions, he gives praise to the Chilean public.

"It's always great for me to go to Chile. I feel that I am valued there as a serious artist, rather than as mere entertainment for the media,"

says the 59-year-old soloist, once dubbed by the press of his country as "The Pope of Depression", from of the semi-divine cult that generates its sensitive and enlightened voice, which unleashes extreme and conflicting passions. A church that in Chile, despite its history of controversy, the canceled tours and the headaches that suppose for the producers their vegan demands and their particular character -recognized by the former director of the Viña Festival, Álex Hernández, who asked that the Briton "I hope he does not come back" - he still has a respectable legion of faithful, as the six presentations that the artist accumulates in the country prove,

- In recent years, many of his statements to the press have generated controversy, including rejection and even campaigns against him. Do you feel that in these times it is difficult to express a different opinion to the predominant or politically incorrect current? Is it difficult today to be critical of modern life?

- It is difficult in England, where all the written press is controlled by the left, which does not want an open debate or a different opinion. The left is closed minded and works very hard to maintain a culture of denial. If you do not agree with the left, you are massacred in the press for being a racist fanatic, your public is ridiculed and every effort is made to silence you. If you question Islam or multiculturalism, the BBC radio will not reproduce your music because Islam is now a dominant ideology in the United Kingdom. I oppose halal killing [a type of preparation of animal flesh according to Islamic law] as well as I oppose any killing of animals, and that is the reason why the "Loony Left" [term with which the European extreme left is pejoratively called in certain sectors of the United Kingdom] has tried to destroy me. My views are not controversial, but if you question Islam you can be sent to jail without a trial. This is Soviet Britain, it's very real, and it's too big a problem to take over.

- Is feminism a topic that worries or generates a particular opinion? Do you think that musicians and artists in general have the responsibility to express a position on this topic today?

-I discovered feminism when I was 14 years old. By then, it was the answer to everything, because it freed all people, not just women. I read And Jill Came Tumbling After (Judith Stacey), The Female Eunuch (Germaine Greer), Women and Madness(Phyllis Chesler) and they changed my point of view. Modern feminism is not the same because it seems to aspire to "whatever men do," and that seems to be enough. Therefore, it becomes a great success, for example, to have a female football team or a group of girls in a boy scout club. The original goal of feminism was to move towards a higher intellectual plane, but now it only seems to want to occupy masculine positions and receive male aggression. It does not help our societies and, on the contrary, it causes masculinism to retaliate. Female leaders in Germany and the United Kingdom have made a mess of those countries, and this does not help modern feminism either. In all matters what I ask of the people is that they think for themselves. Collect your own material and you will reach your own conclusions. It is easy. Just stop watching the news!

Music does not change the world
The criticisms of the voice of "How soon is now?" To the media are not new and have increased in the last time. Answering through his email seems to be the way he chose to communicate publicly, after he himself announced, last December during a concert in Germany, his decision to stop giving interviews to the written press, after accusing the newspaper Der Spiegel twisted his words in an interview in which, among other things, he would have indicated that the actor Kevin Spacey has been "unnecessarily attacked" after accusations of sexual abuse against him, and even that he would kill the president of the United States, Donald Trump, if the opportunity were given.

But it has been the media in his country that have responded the hardest to the soloist. His eleventh solo album, Low in high school(2017), perhaps the most overtly political work of his discography, was warmly received by the specialized critics. And while an opinion column in The Guardian newspaper a few weeks ago called simply to "stop listening" to Morrissey's music, NME magazine this month published the story of Johnny Turner, a guy who imitates the singer in a tribute band to The Smiths, who confessed that these days people stop him in the street and contact him on social networks to insult him and threaten him if he supports the controversial sayings of his idol. If before being a fan of "Moz" was tantamount to declaring a misfit, today, in a time of greater sensitivity to certain causes postponed and in which many young people have chosen to "veto" their social networks to celebrities who do not share their opinions ,

- In this era of musical consumption via streaming, social networks and post-truth, do you think that music, the lyrics of a song, can change the world? Or at least make it a little better?

-We are very closed and I think we resort to music to discover who or what we are. Music tells us how to escape from certain things. It does not change the world, because songs are like art arrows and can not really compete with the silly spectacle of war, money and political violence ... which is what makes the world go round. The songs mitigate the trauma of ... just being alive.

- In 2019 it will turn 60 years old. Is it something that bothers you or that you receive with peace of mind? Do you see yourself singing on stage and publishing albums for many more years?

-I feel somewhat insensitive with respect to age. Everything happens so fast that it is difficult to even know what is really happening. As long as I have a good pulse, I know that I will have the initiative to sing. I am not a chosen one, I have never been promoted to be fashionable or I am where I am because of my appearance, therefore, I have not moved away from the original need to sing. You must continue as if everyone is listening to you ... Even if they are not!

Article link:
http://culto.latercera.com/2018/07/...sociedades-al-masculinismo-tomar-represalias/

Article source:

Anyone from Chile in the know?
Regards,
FWD.

 
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AztecCamera

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I reckon that is not a current pic. Uncle Steve went through that stage when he wore that Nike kickball team track jacket (because he likes the logo, not because he likes kickball) that he picked up when him and John Maher did one of their Nike corporate acoustic gigs in John's hometown Portland, Oregon.

The pic looks like it was taken in one of those old stinky bungalows that they use to film porn in North Hollywood. Nice location lil' Sammy.
 

Aubrey McFate

Lonely in Barcelona
It looks like an older photo, if I had to guess. Possibly circa 2010. I do think he looks terrific, though. He could be the father of "a tough kid who sometimes swallows nails."
 

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Peppermint

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He just keeps on stepping in it, doesn't he? First he ensures that he's no longer attractive to the left, and now, women. Everybody knows he's not big on the ladies, but what a fucking knob this guy has turned into. When time travel is invented, I'll send word back to myself in 1991 not to bother.

EDIT: Hey Thewlis, marking me down will not save your boy. Let's see where he is in two years.
I think women both confuse and repel him. My theory is that the women in his family held all the power and he hated them for it - all those strong Irish aunties, and then Betty as well. Poor bloke stood no chance.

Having said that, as a woman I share his view that there is something not quite right about modern feminism. All that whining and flag-waving and man-hating seems to miss the target somehow. I don't think I've ever let my sex get in the way of what I wanted to do in life and I wouldn't take shit from anybody, but I would never call myself a 'feminist' - I find it embarassing and meaningless.
 
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LOL MOZ got ALL THE COMMIE MUSLIMS IN AN UPROAR!!:thumb:

SimonGeorge, Chezz, Skinny and all the variant sock puppets... as if Moz stepped on an ant farm:lbf:

The Halal Butcher :link::turban::link: Skinny persona is sure to shortly appear with some stupid Islamic commentary.

MOZ FOR PRIME MINISTER:bow:
 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
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It looks like an older photo, if I had to guess. Possibly circa 2010. I do think he looks terrific, though. He could be the father of "a tough kid who sometimes swallows nails."
It's reminiscent of the Hamish Brown Bethnal Green shots (similar walls).
The full image was put on Central a while back:

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And has crept in to gig promotion too:

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Regards,
FWD.
 
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Anonymous

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Feminist is a term now used to justify to one self anything about being a woman.

The only meaning to me is that you don't have to do what a man tells you because it's "your role". Getting coffee for your boss, letting a man open a door for you. Freedom.

Woman in Europe are using it as an excuse for everything. If they bothered to learn the history of feminism they would realize they are just posers.
 
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Halloway

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"It is difficult in England, where all the written press is controlled by the left"

Does he seriously believe that? He really is getting delusional in his old age.
 
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Anonymous

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"It is difficult in England, where all the written press is controlled by the left"

Does he seriously believe that? He really is getting delusional in his old age.
Any paper that doesn't photoshop Mohamed Salah out of its sports pages is, by definition, controlled by the left.
 

DrStatham

Active Member
Another day another controversy.... as it happens though I agree with him. He is talking about current feminism, not the principles of feminism. Mainstream feminism has gone too far and become ridiculous, fighting pointless stupid battles and trying desperately hard to find inequality when it simply.isnt there. They will find someon3, accuse them of wrongdoing, then hound that person, refusing to listen to evidence and will call anybody who opposes anything they say a sexist.. They are so sure of themselves that they think anyone who disagrees with any one thing they say must simply be discriminatory.
 

Uncleskinny

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Another day another controversy.... as it happens though I agree with him. He is talking about current feminism, not the principles of feminism. Mainstream feminism has gone too far and become ridiculous, fighting pointless stupid battles and trying desperately hard to find inequality when it simply.isnt there. They will find someon3, accuse them of wrongdoing, then hound that person, refusing to listen to evidence and will call anybody who opposes anything they say a sexist.. They are so sure of themselves that they think anyone who disagrees with any one thing they say must simply be discriminatory.
Jeez, you sound like someone who's had some bad experiences with women. Or issues. Or both. Women are not your enemy.
 
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Anonymous

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There isn't a time in history when feminism didn't cause men to retaliate.

Still, let's be honest, Morrissey has always had a strange abhorrence to women.

What this man has become is remarkable. There really are no limits to his small mindedness.

Who would have any romantic notion of this man at his point? He's erasing himself.
 
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Anonymous

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A very interesting interview to read with meaningful things.
That said, this interview shows that if the questions are clever and original, the answers will be interesting. If the journalist is on autopilot and voices standard questions, the interviewee will give dull and flat things.
 

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