Morrissey: "Current feminism does not help our societies and makes masculinism retaliate" - Culto

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  1. Famous when dead

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    I will preface this article with a couple of caveats: firstly, it has gone through translate and secondly, context and details are lacking. It should be noted that the title is part of one question asked and not the main topic - it is a bit misleading. Only a few questions with lots of commentary/background.

    In Culto (part of La Tercera), by Andrés del Real (29th July, 2018):

    Morrissey: "Current feminism does not help our societies and makes masculinism retaliate"

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    Morrissey: "Current feminism does not help our societies and makes masculinism retaliate"

    How does a celebrity adapt to the times? Probably not being Morrissey, who, true to his style and before his return to Chile, shoots against modern feminism, the English press and "the culture of the negation of the left".
    Last month, an indeterminate number of English self-styled "former admirers of Morrissey" announced on social networks a party against racism in Manchester, set for the same night that the British artist, his exidolo, would come to the city with the tour promotional of his most recent album, Low in high school. The reason? The statements that the former Smith of The Smiths had made days before, taking pity on the situation of the founder of the movement of extreme right English Defense League, Tommy Robinson, sentenced to 13 months in prison for contempt of court. Coincidence or not, days before the shows, the singer announced the cancellation of his dates in Manchester and all the rest of his European tour, due to "logistical problems".

    The episode is added to the increasingly extensive list of polemics starring the soloist, who with the same voice with which for decades has captivated different generations of followers in search of an answer to their torments and depressions, has also got into a series of problems and controversies, for statements against the British monarchy -one of its favorite targets-, multicultural Europe and immigration, and even the #metoo feminist movement, relativizing the denunciations against Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey, among others. His verbal incontinence seems to go against the current tendency of his colleagues, quick to bend to all the causes that drive certain opinion leaders and many of their own followers.

    But even the sharpest language at some point knows when to stop, and Steven Patrick Morrissey is no exception: consulted by Worship about what happened in Manchester, the musician opts for silence. It is the only answer that he decides to omit from a questionnaire sent via mail at his request, in which, before launching a series of darts against various causes and modern institutions, he gives praise to the Chilean public.

    "It's always great for me to go to Chile. I feel that I am valued there as a serious artist, rather than as mere entertainment for the media,"

    says the 59-year-old soloist, once dubbed by the press of his country as "The Pope of Depression", from of the semi-divine cult that generates its sensitive and enlightened voice, which unleashes extreme and conflicting passions. A church that in Chile, despite its history of controversy, the canceled tours and the headaches that suppose for the producers their vegan demands and their particular character -recognized by the former director of the Viña Festival, Álex Hernández, who asked that the Briton "I hope he does not come back" - he still has a respectable legion of faithful, as the six presentations that the artist accumulates in the country prove,

    - In recent years, many of his statements to the press have generated controversy, including rejection and even campaigns against him. Do you feel that in these times it is difficult to express a different opinion to the predominant or politically incorrect current? Is it difficult today to be critical of modern life?

    - It is difficult in England, where all the written press is controlled by the left, which does not want an open debate or a different opinion. The left is closed minded and works very hard to maintain a culture of denial. If you do not agree with the left, you are massacred in the press for being a racist fanatic, your public is ridiculed and every effort is made to silence you. If you question Islam or multiculturalism, the BBC radio will not reproduce your music because Islam is now a dominant ideology in the United Kingdom. I oppose halal killing [a type of preparation of animal flesh according to Islamic law] as well as I oppose any killing of animals, and that is the reason why the "Loony Left" [term with which the European extreme left is pejoratively called in certain sectors of the United Kingdom] has tried to destroy me. My views are not controversial, but if you question Islam you can be sent to jail without a trial. This is Soviet Britain, it's very real, and it's too big a problem to take over.

    - Is feminism a topic that worries or generates a particular opinion? Do you think that musicians and artists in general have the responsibility to express a position on this topic today?

    -I discovered feminism when I was 14 years old. By then, it was the answer to everything, because it freed all people, not just women. I read And Jill Came Tumbling After (Judith Stacey), The Female Eunuch (Germaine Greer), Women and Madness(Phyllis Chesler) and they changed my point of view. Modern feminism is not the same because it seems to aspire to "whatever men do," and that seems to be enough. Therefore, it becomes a great success, for example, to have a female football team or a group of girls in a boy scout club. The original goal of feminism was to move towards a higher intellectual plane, but now it only seems to want to occupy masculine positions and receive male aggression. It does not help our societies and, on the contrary, it causes masculinism to retaliate. Female leaders in Germany and the United Kingdom have made a mess of those countries, and this does not help modern feminism either. In all matters what I ask of the people is that they think for themselves. Collect your own material and you will reach your own conclusions. It is easy. Just stop watching the news!

    Music does not change the world
    The criticisms of the voice of "How soon is now?" To the media are not new and have increased in the last time. Answering through his email seems to be the way he chose to communicate publicly, after he himself announced, last December during a concert in Germany, his decision to stop giving interviews to the written press, after accusing the newspaper Der Spiegel twisted his words in an interview in which, among other things, he would have indicated that the actor Kevin Spacey has been "unnecessarily attacked" after accusations of sexual abuse against him, and even that he would kill the president of the United States, Donald Trump, if the opportunity were given.

    But it has been the media in his country that have responded the hardest to the soloist. His eleventh solo album, Low in high school(2017), perhaps the most overtly political work of his discography, was warmly received by the specialized critics. And while an opinion column in The Guardian newspaper a few weeks ago called simply to "stop listening" to Morrissey's music, NME magazine this month published the story of Johnny Turner, a guy who imitates the singer in a tribute band to The Smiths, who confessed that these days people stop him in the street and contact him on social networks to insult him and threaten him if he supports the controversial sayings of his idol. If before being a fan of "Moz" was tantamount to declaring a misfit, today, in a time of greater sensitivity to certain causes postponed and in which many young people have chosen to "veto" their social networks to celebrities who do not share their opinions ,

    - In this era of musical consumption via streaming, social networks and post-truth, do you think that music, the lyrics of a song, can change the world? Or at least make it a little better?

    -We are very closed and I think we resort to music to discover who or what we are. Music tells us how to escape from certain things. It does not change the world, because songs are like art arrows and can not really compete with the silly spectacle of war, money and political violence ... which is what makes the world go round. The songs mitigate the trauma of ... just being alive.

    - In 2019 it will turn 60 years old. Is it something that bothers you or that you receive with peace of mind? Do you see yourself singing on stage and publishing albums for many more years?

    -I feel somewhat insensitive with respect to age. Everything happens so fast that it is difficult to even know what is really happening. As long as I have a good pulse, I know that I will have the initiative to sing. I am not a chosen one, I have never been promoted to be fashionable or I am where I am because of my appearance, therefore, I have not moved away from the original need to sing. You must continue as if everyone is listening to you ... Even if they are not!

    Article link:
    http://culto.latercera.com/2018/07/...sociedades-al-masculinismo-tomar-represalias/

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    Anyone from Chile in the know?
    Regards,
    FWD.

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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Famous when dead, Jul 29, 2018.

    1. Uncleskinny
      Uncleskinny
      Why should anyone take lessons on equality from a racist?
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    2. Aubrey McFate
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      That is truly a great picture. Says it all, really.
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    3. gordyboy9
      gordyboy9
      why is skinny always first to reply when something with a hint of controversy gets put on here,because hes a full time lurker waiting to pounce.
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    4. g23
      g23
      He just keeps on stepping in it, doesn't he? First he ensures that he's no longer attractive to the left, and now, women. Everybody knows he's not big on the ladies, but what a fucking knob this guy has turned into. When time travel is invented, I'll send word back to myself in 1991 not to bother.

      EDIT: Hey Thewlis, marking me down will not save your boy. Let's see where he is in two years.
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    5. gordyboy9
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      in the new MAMA MIA film, the magnificent ABBA song THE NAME OF THE GAME theres a line which was IM A BASHFUL CHILD,has been changed in the film to IM A CURIOUS CHILD,dont anyone even try and defend this,even skinny cant defend this or if he wants I would love to see him try.the film is nothing more than a cash-grab.
      you can never really trust these google translations,theres been some terrible ones on here over the years.
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    6. Anonymous
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      He looks gorgeous. I'd do him.
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    7. katiamos
      katiamos
      Morrissey has been always against masculinity. It's not surprising if he doesn't like feminism when it's = behave like men. I am a female and I agree, feminism is about equal rights, opportunities, respect... there is still a lot to do in the world. He didn't say anything we don't know.
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    8. Thewlis
      Thewlis
      And Jill Came Tumbling After is a great book, not been mentioned before by Moz, I'm sure.
      Definitely a new interview, and a good read, with long answers for a change.
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    9. vegan.cro spirit# 342
      vegan.cro spirit# 342
      BRAVO MOZ!
      ISLAM IS THE IDEOLOGY OF THE THE UK! OF COURSE YES LOOK AT SKINNY AND CHEZZ!
      MOZ HITS NAIL SQUARE ON THE HEAD!! AGAIN!!

      :rock:
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    10. g23
      g23
      37877098_1854617081251900_1683002953780166656_o.jpg
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    11. Anonymous
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      This is the version of feminism Morrissey seems to be objecting to.
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    12. Stephen Hofmann
      Stephen Hofmann
      Nothing controversial here. Next.
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    13. Peppermint
      Peppermint
      He looks weird. I think Sam's done him (and not very skilfully, either).
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    14. pandaproducts
      pandaproducts
      Why do you type like that? It's reminiscent of a crazy person. I don't say that to sound mean or insulting, but it really is how insane people type.
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    15. Charlie Cheswick
      Charlie Cheswick
      Why doesn't he just drop us a link to Breitbart, Infowars, etc and just save us all the bother of reading this and every other recent announcement?
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    16. Uncleskinny
      Uncleskinny
      Here's a repeat for all you fans out there...

      Why should anyone take lessons on equality from a racist?
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    17. Uncleskinny
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      It is not. It is a demonstration of expertise with plaster.
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    18. Anonymous
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      I don’t think so equal opportunities doesn’t mean behaving like men
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    19. Peppermint
      Peppermint
      It really isn't. Sam has photoshopped the fuck out of it. His head looks like it's been cut out and stuck on. And he looks curiously 20 years younger, with a suspicious amount of hair.
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