Morrissey Central: "The Guardian of Hate" (October 10, 2019)

THE GUARDIAN OF HATE

October 10, 2019


"I am sorry that you are forced to tolerate the views of The Guardian Of Hate, and I am sorry that I cannot retaliate, but - I am nothing, and I have no human rights.
The person described by The Guardian Of Hate is not me, and their stance attributed to me is not mine. But, pleased be warned: they are having great fun and they will not STOP.

I am surprised that IPSO regulations allow the Sinn Fein "ourselves alone" tactics of The Guardian Of Hate to continue, and whereas it is my view that everyone is entitled to their opinion, I did not believe - until now - that UK law permits public actions in public spaces that call for a British citizen to be killed, or even discriminated against.
It is true that I do not support the Monster Raving Labour Party, and nor could I possibly ever approve of Halal (being of sound mind), but if the definition of a racist or fascist is someone who will not allow others to have an opinion, then The Guardian Of Hate are exactly whom they claim to disapprove of.

Finally, if The Guardian Of Hate decide that you are their quarry, I wish you more media support than I have so far received."


MORRISSEY
10 October 2019.

https://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey/244309-the-guardian-of-hate


The Guardian's most recent article regarding Morrissey was on Oct. 2:

Morrissey ejects anti-far-right protester from Portland concert
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...nti-far-right-protester-from-portland-concert

Regards,
FWD.
 

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Uncleskinny

It's all good
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The haters at The Guardian know Moz aint no racist. They just want to ruin the guy's career. Jealousy and spite - pure and simple.

And those that do are judged by those
Who tried and found they couldn't do
Who was it who said all those right-wing supporting things? Was it someone else?
 
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Anonymous

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Who was it who said all those right-wing supporting things? Was it someone else?
You confuse everything that's said outside your socialist club with the far right. Nazis are socialists just like you. The socialists in Sweden and Denmark and even England inspired the nazis.

Why are you so badly educated on these things when you talk about it all the time?

National SOCIALISM, can it be more clear than that?
 
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Anonymous

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You confuse everything that's said outside your socialist club with the far right. Nazis are socialists just like you. The socialists in Sweden and Denmark and even England inspired the nazis.

Why are you so badly educated on these things when you talk about it all the time?

National SOCIALISM, can it be more clear than that?
Ooft! Own goal methinks? This highlights your stupidity perfectly.
 
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Anonymous

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See how the racists fill this thread. Are they all over the tour threads? No, no they're not because they are not Morrissey fans. Quick as a flash they sow their bile in regard to disturbing scenes in Manchester and because the attacker is black they presume him to be muslim. No notion at all that the man has actually been sectioned under the mental health act. No compassion. No understanding. Just more blind, hateful racism from Hofmann and his alter ego Reelfountain.
 
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Anonymous

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Left wing or right wing, Morrissey has become completely boring. And this forum too.
 
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Anonymous

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@Surface, they see hating and scapegoating others as a means of deflecting attention away from their inadequacies, worries and fears about themselves that they hide about themselves in plain sight.
They ultimately are picked up and groomed by those who view them with even more contempt than the very people they choose to look down upon. Have a look at this. Some here will hate it, because it puts them very much in the spotlight.

THE ALT-RIGHT IS RECRUITING DEPRESSED PEOPLE
Alt-right figures are targeting vulnerable communities with videos and, unfortunately, it seems to be working.

Paris Martineau


A video on YouTube entitled “Advice For People With Depression” has over half a million views. The title is generic enough, and to the unsuspecting viewer, lecturer Jordan Peterson could look legitimate or knowledgable — a quick Google search will reveal that he even taught at Harvard as an assistant professor of psychology back in the '90s. But as the video wears on, Peterson argues that men are depressed and frustrated because they don’t have a higher calling like women (who, according to Peterson, are biologically required to have and take care of infants). This leaves weak men seeking “impulsive, low-class pleasure,” he argues. Upon first glance he certainly doesn’t seem like a darling of the alt-right, but he is.

Type “depression” or “depressed” into YouTube and it won’t be long until you stumble upon a suit-clad white supremacist giving a lecture on self-empowerment. They’re everywhere. For years, members of the alt-right have taken advantage of the internet’s most vulnerable, turning their fear and self-loathing into vitriolic extremism, and thanks to the movement’s recent galvanization, they’re only growing stronger.

“I still wonder, how could I have been so stupid?” writes Reddit user u/pdesperaux, in a post detailing how he was accidentally seduced by the alt-right. “I was part of a cult. I know cults and I know brainwashing, I have researched them extensively, you'd think I would have noticed, right? Wrong. These are the same tactics that Scientology and ISIS use and I fell for them like a chump.”


“NOBODY is talking about how the online depression community has been infiltrated by alt-right recruiters deliberately preying on the vulnerable,” writes Twitter user @MrHappyDieHappyin a thread on the issue. “There NEED to be public warnings about this. 'Online pals' have attempted to groom me multiple times when at my absolute lowest.”

“You know your life is useless and meaningless,” Peterson says in his “Advice” video, turning towards the viewer, “you're full of self-contempt and nihilism.” He doesn’t follow all of this rousing self-hatred with an answer, but rather merely teases at one. “[You] have had enough of that,” he says to a classroom full of men. “Rights, rights, rights, rights…”


Peterson’s alt-light messaging quickly takes a darker turn. Finish that video and YouTube will queue up “Jordan Peterson - Don't Be The Nice Guy” (1.3 million views), and “Jordan Peterson - The Tragic Story of the Man-Child” (over 853,000 views), both of which are practically right out of the redpill/incel handbook.

“The common railroad stages of 'helpful' linking to 'motivational speakers' goes 'Jordan Peterson ---> Stefan Molyneux ---> Millennial Woes,” writes @MrHappyDieHappy. “The first is charismatic and not as harmful, but his persuasiveness leaves people open for the next two, who are frankly evil and dumb.” Molyneux, an anarcho-capitalist who promotes scientific racism and eugenics, has grown wildly popular amongst the alt-right as of late. His videos — which argue, among other things, that rape is a “moral right” — are often used to help transition vulnerable young men into the vitriolic and racist core of the alt-right.

Though it may seem like a huge ideological leap, it makes sense, in a way. For some disillusioned and hopelessly confused young men, the alt-right offers two things they feel a serious lack of in the throes of depression: acceptance and community. These primer videos and their associated “support” groups do a shockingly good job of acknowledging the validity of the depressed man’s existence — something men don’t often feel they experience — and capitalize on that good will by galvanizing their members into a plan of action (which generally involves fighting against some group or class of people designated as “the enemy”). These sort of movements allot the depressed person a form of agency which they may never have experienced before. And whether it’s grounded in reality or not, that’s an addicting feeling.


According to Christian Picciolini, a former neo-nazi who co-founded the peace advocacy organization, Life After Hate, these sort of recruiting tactics aren’t just common, but systematically enforced. “[The recruiters] are actively looking for these kind of broken individuals who they can promise acceptance, who they can promise identity to,” Picciolini said in an interview with Sam Seder. “Because in real life, perhaps these people are socially awkward — they're not fitting in; they may be bullied — and they're desperately looking for something. And the ideology and the dogma are not what drive people to this extremism, it's in fact, I think, a broken search for that acceptance and that purpose and community.”

Taking vulnerable young people and putting them in a group of seemingly supportive and energetic ‘friends’ is also how ISIS or cults recruit. The dogma becomes second nature.

Some of the most toxic unofficial alt-right communities online have operated on this principle. r/Incels (which is now banned, thankfully), began as a place for the “involuntarily celibate” to commiserate, but quickly became the place for extreme misogynists to gather and blame their problems on women and minorities. “Men going their own way,” (MGTOW) was initially a space for men to commune and protect their sovereignty as dudes “above all else,” it devolved into an infinitely racist and misogynistic hellhole. Similar fates have befallen r/Redpill, r/MensRights, and countless others. Commiseration begets community begets a vulnerable trend towards groupthink.


While it’s easy to isolate purely hateful content, the type that preys upon the disenfranchised and uses much more insidious methods to bring them into the fold is much more difficult to manage on expansive platforms like YouTube. Particularly because the message being sent isn’t one of obvious in-your-face hate speech, or something so obviously objectionable, but rather more of a slow burn. It’s not the sort of thing you can train algorithms to spot — or at least, not yet — making the issue of containment that much harder to address.

“And you find that you’ve organised your feelings/for people who didn’t like you then/and do not like you now”

Morrissey - ‘Dial-A-Cliche’ (1988)

“When will you accept your life?/Oh, the one that you hate?”

The Smiths - ‘Accept Yourself’ (1983)
Yes Jordan Peterson comes across as this mild lecturer with helpful advice for the weaker in society. As you become more acquained with his videos there is an uncomfortable sense of misogyny even in his "funny" stories about his wife and women in general. It's another example of the polarising times we live in. Instead of looking to ourselves for answers it's always someone else's fault
Likewise the Guardians article from Oct 2nd pulled out every negative tidbit they possibly could, never mentioning his successful tour. Instead they "adjust" the truth to fit their negative narrative.
 
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Anonymous

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See how the racists fill this thread. Are they all over the tour threads? No, no they're not because they are not Morrissey fans. Quick as a flash they sow their bile in regard to disturbing scenes in Manchester and because the attacker is black they presume him to be muslim. No notion at all that the man has actually been sectioned under the mental health act. No compassion. No understanding. Just more blind, hateful racism from Hofmann and his alter ego Reelfountain.
Thing is Skinny, you're losing the argument. You're boring us all to death. Everyone, apart from you, is a racist, or fascist, according to you.
You in turn are nothing, nobody, nada.
No one is listening, but everyone is laughing at your sad, little, pathetic, Moz hate filled, fantasy life spent on Moz-solo. You have no purpose in life.
You're just a freak.
Not much else to say.
 

reelfountain

Well-Known Member
Douglas Murray?

The problem with Murray is he dodges around the question of who opened the UKs floodgates and why by saying it was all due to political incompetence and laziness. That is not a valid or believable answer.

The gates were opened (and continue to be opened wider) by Zionist elements who want to fully multiculturalise the west. This cannot be denied anymore. Saying that Caribbeans were allowed to pour in from '48 onwards for much needed labour is absurd, as the British government was simultaneously sponsoring cheap tickets for white Brits to emigrate to Australia, NZ and South Africa. So in other words: blacks in, whites out. Not all Jews support mass immigration, but the people at the top doing the most championing and shouting the loudest for it are always Jews.

This goes along with the Kalergi Plan or Great Replacement (the UN officially calls it Replacement Migration). That is to mix up the races into a pale coffee colour so they ultimately have no discernible identity, and then have the Jews (the chosen master race) rule over them.

I wish I was wrong on this. But unfortunately the unfolding reality before my eyes proves me right. Every day Britain gets more diversified, so every day is a day closer to when Brits are a despised minority in their own land - with none of the favouritism and 'protection' of identity politics.

Is Douglas Murray Jewish? Probably not, but he's undoubtedly in their pocket. In other words he gets a monthly pay check from some Jewish think-tank or group of wealthy benefactors who get him to avoid The Jewish Question. Slag off the Islamists, question immigration (but only to a certain extent), but never ever mention two things: the banks or the Jews. He's a self-confessed neo-Con, which pretty much proves all this.

People like Murray and Peterson etc never go the whole way. They stop way before the all-important finishing line and creep away clutching their rewarded pieces of silver. It's no good saying immigration is bad - it's too late for that. Too much demographic damage has already been done. It is time to start talking about what can be done to reverse immigration, to get people returning to their own lands, so that our countries as we know them will not disappear.
 
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AztecCamera

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Dude, Skileey. That was awesome! How did you come up with that shit? That was like Harry Potter and a Neds Atomic Dustbin song mixed together. Mporiumuk sales up 75% this week and the foreigners are fantasizing about a "Spring tour"...ha ha ha. Dude, you deserve Pete's office at Bevery Hills HQ. Rock on chick!!
 
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Anonymous

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Ooft! Own goal methinks? This highlights your stupidity perfectly.
Says the anon one always obsessed with me but never able to come with any ideas of your own. You know I am right and you cry about it here.

Mommy!
 

Peanut

Active Member
... This cannot be denied anymore. Saying that Caribbeans were allowed to pour in from '48 onwards for much needed labour is absurd as the British government was simultaneously sponsoring cheap tickets for white Brits to emigrate to Australia, NZ and South Africa. So in other words: blacks in, whites out.
There are slightly more prosaic explanations for this than a Zionist conspiracy high up in the British government, don't you think?

From what I can tell, the Assisted Passage Migration scheme was financed by an Aus government eager to encourage more culturally similar immigrants - not exactly the British government attempting to get rid of natives.
Arthur Calwell, the first minister for Immigration, made the following pledge in 1946: 'Australia hopes that for every foreign migrant there will be ten people from the United Kingdom
Post World War II British Migration to Australia


Not to mention that post WWII rationing continued until 1954, so emigration would have been an attractive option for some, regardless of any labour shortages.
Kathleen Upton from Hastings, who left for her new life in 1954, also sailed on one. She had never seen anything like it.
"The food, I couldn't believe it," she says. "We were on rations in London and there was so much and such tropical fruits."
The £10 ticket to another life
 
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Anonymous

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The problem with Murray is he dodges around the question of who opened the UKs floodgates and why by saying it was all due to political incompetence and laziness. That is not a valid or believable answer.

The gates were opened (and continue to be opened wider) by Zionist elements who want to fully multiculturalism the west. This cannot be denied anymore. Saying that Caribbeans were allowed to pour in from '48 onwards for much needed labour is absurd as the British government was simultaneously sponsoring cheap tickets for white Brits to emigrate to Australia, NZ and South Africa. So in other words: blacks in, whites out. Not all Jews support mass immigration, but the people at the top doing the most championing and shouting the loudest for it are always Jews.

This goes along with the Kalergi Plan or Great Replacement (the UN officially calls it Replacement Migration). That is to mix up the races into a pale coffee colour so they ultimately have no discernible identity, and then have the Jews (the chosen master race) rule over them.

I wish I was wrong on this. But unfortunately the unfolding reality before my eyes proves me right. Every day Britain gets more diversified, so every day is a day closer to when Brits are a despised minority in their own land - with none of the favoritism and 'protection' of identity politics.

Is Douglas Murray Jewish? Probably not, but he's undoubtedly in their pocket. In other words he gets a monthly pay check from some Jewish think-tank or group of wealthy benefactors who get him to avoid The Jewish Question. Slag off the Islamists, question immigration (but only to a certain extent), but never ever mention two things: the banks or the Jews. He's a self-confessed neo-Con, which pretty much proves all this.

People like Murray and Peterson etc never go the whole way. They stop way before the all-important finishing line and creep away clutching their rewarded pieces of silver. It's no good saying immigration is bad - it's too late for that. Too much demographic damage has already been done. It is time to start talking about what can be done to reverse immigration, to get people returning to their own lands, so that our countries as we know them will not disappear.
Racist scum. I see it. I call it.

A filthy hate-filled monstrosity masquerading as a Morrissey fan. Do not be fooled.

Scum. Scum. Scum.
 

reelfountain

Well-Known Member
There are slightly more prosaic explanations for this than a Zionist conspiracy high up in the British government, don't you think?

From what I can tell, the Assisted Passage Migration scheme was financed by an Aus government eager to encourage more culturally similar immigrants - not exactly the British government attempting to get rid of natives.

Post World War II British Migration to Australia


Not to mention that post WWII rationing continued until 1954, so emigration would have been an attractive option for some, regardless of any labour shortages.

The £10 ticket to another life
Of course it was the Oz government - but our government jumped on it and allowed it to happen. They could have said no. Instead they allowed it to be promoted here in Britain.

Which is something they never wouldn't done if they truthfully "needed labour to rebuild Britain".

In with the blacks, out with the whites.

It's the same as today. They know an African is going to love living in the UK compared to where he comes from. He'll happily accept low pay, no union, bad working conditions and hours etc and won't complain if we close libraries, cancel much-needed services and privatise the NHS etc. He's a gullible, naive, brand new citizen to exploit and sell to. Yes, there might be more murders, or white people being mugged - but fuck 'em, who cares, let our police and judiciary deal with it - we can handle it. Only the balance sheet matters.

In fact let's start a whole new society of people just like him! He's new and he's more value for money. Out with the old, they're no use to us anymore. And they know our game inside out - we want newbies. Let's multiculturalise the whole country, in fact the whole of Europe! And if people don't like it slam them in the chops with the 'racist' tag - that'll do it.
 
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Peanut

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He'll happily accept low pay, no union, bad working conditions and hours etc and won't complain if we close libraries, cancel much-needed services and privatise the NHS etc.
Let's assume this is the case for a minute - what you just described sounds exactly like a hard Tory manifesto rather than any kind of globalisation conspiracy.
 

reelfountain

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Let's assume this is the case for a minute - what you just described sounds much more like a hard Tory manifesto than any kind of globalisation conspiracy.
It's called Liberal Capitalism ( I wrote a full post about it earlier). This is the current politics espoused by both Labour and Tory. The liberalism of the left (loving migrants and minorities etc) mixed with the ultra Capitalism of the right. That is why whether you vote in Labour or Tory it won't make much difference to the ultimate 'Plan' which is to socially globalise Britain and keep the capitalist train rolling.

This is why people get confused these days by what is Left and Right. Labour officially dropped the overthrow of capitalism from their constitution years ago and even Momentum love immigration. But then so do the Tories. Whether for human benevolence or monetary greed, they ALL love immigration, which is hand in hand with money-making globalism. The entire establishment (Labour, Greens, Lib Dems, Tories) are united in their support for globalist Liberal Capitalism.

That's why support for anything outside of this window must not be allowed - like Moz supporting For Britain and the headlines calling him a racist. (And ironically FB is a very soft and lite party).
 
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Stephen Hofmann

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It's called Liberal Capitalism ( I wrote a full post about it earlier). This is the current politics espoused by both Labour and Tory. The liberalism of the left (loving migrants and minorities etc) mixed with the ultra Capitalism of the right. That is why whether you vote in Labour or Tory it won't make much difference to the ultimate 'Plan' which is to socially globalise Britain and keep the capitalist train rolling.

This is why people get confused these days by what is Left and Right. Labour officially dropped the overthrow of capitalism from their constitution years ago and even Momentum love immigration. But then so do the Tories. Whether for human benevolence or monetary greed, they ALL love immigration, which is hand in hand with money-making globalism. The entire establishment (Labour, Greens, Lib Dems, Tories) are united in their support for globalist Liberal Capitalism.

That's why support for anything outside of this window must not be allowed - like Moz supporting For Britain and the headlines calling him a racist. (And ironically FB is a very soft and lite party).

"Whether for human benevolence or monetary greed, they ALL love immigration, which is hand in hand with money-making globalism. The entire establishment (Labour, Greens, Lib Dems, Tories) are united in their support for globalist Liberal Capitalism."

Very true.
 

Hovis Lesley

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"Whether for human benevolence or monetary greed, they ALL love immigration, which is hand in hand with money-making globalism. The entire establishment (Labour, Greens, Lib Dems, Tories) are united in their support for globalist Liberal Capitalism."

Very true.
This would of course fly in the face of Marx. Yet many on the left remain complicit with Globalisation; proof perhaps that they are motivated not by ideas, or love, but a dark nihilism which resents everything—even that to which they owe their own subjective existence (be it influential philosophical thoughts, or indeed affecting idols). If this was the case, any level of intellectual discourse would be obsolete. I wonder if this is what you’re finding here?
 
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There are slightly more prosaic explanations for this than a Zionist conspiracy high up in the British government, don't you think?

From what I can tell, the Assisted Passage Migration scheme was financed by an Aus government eager to encourage more culturally similar immigrants - not exactly the British government attempting to get rid of natives.

Post World War II British Migration to Australia


Not to mention that post WWII rationing continued until 1954, so emigration would have been an attractive option for some, regardless of any labour shortages.

The £10 ticket to another life
Australia, New Zealand and South Africa all members of the commonwealth with Liz 2 as their head. Cooperation amongst governments with a common goal.
Do what thou wilt.
 

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