Morrissey and Marr #67 in Rolling Stone's "100 Greatest Songwriters of All Time"

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By davidt on Aug 14, 2015 at 3:08 PM
  1. davidt

    davidt Administrator Staff Member Moderator Subscriber

    Feb 12, 1997
    Link from Morran:

    The 100 Greatest Songwriters of All Time - Rolling Stone

    #67 Morrissey and Marr

    "I really believe he's one of the best lyricists there's been," guitarist Johnny Marr said about his songwriting partner in 1989, just after the Smiths' breakup. "I don't think anyone's got his wit or insight or originality or obsession or overall dedication." Together, in less than four years, the duo wrote more than 70 songs, with Marr working as arranger and producer and Morrissey navigating whole new worlds of misery and disaffection, often with much more wit than he got credit for at the time. Morrissey's lyrics went hand-in-glove with Marr's gorgeously-detailed melodies: the lilting car-wreck fantasy "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out," the Bo Diddley-in-space wallflower anthem "How Soon Is Now?," the homoerotic Afro-pop of "This Charming Man," the nouvelle vague folk of "Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want," and on, and on, and on. The more you listen, the clearer it becomes that Marr isn't exaggerating.


Discussion in 'General Discussion archive 2015 (read-only)' started by davidt, Aug 14, 2015.

    1. Anonymous
      I don't trust any list who has Taylor swift on it. Very predictable lists with the Radom token artist spread here or there
    2. Anonymous
      I'm not a suck arse morrissey fan but he should easily be in the top 5 of any great lyricist list, and thats playing it safe, he could easily come in at #1 and it would be justified, He's just not media recognisable to the casual listeners. I havent seen the list but who's number 1? bob dylan? john lennon, id imagine
    3. Anonymous
      Boring Stone: what a piece of crap!
    4. g23
      The world at large places them higher than #67. For fuck's sake.
      I don't know what I expected from Rolling Stone anyway. They're more preoccupied with how on fleek Kim Kardashian's eyebrow game be than music. The death rattle of a once proud publication.
    5. jeff992
      Well, at least Taylor Swift was 90-something and not top-10 as you would maybe expect from Rolling Stone these days. Seems really hard to compare and rank songwriters of so many different styles and eras. Rap, Motown, current pop, indie/alternative, etc. So I guess it's a decent list, it's all subjective anyways isn't it? I mean, my list would have Elliott Smith in the top 10. I was sad not to see him on this list since I think he was among the best songwriters of the last 25 years. It was nice to see Paul Westerberg on there though.
    6. evennow
      Surprisingly, Samantha Fox.
    7. Uncleskinny
    8. Anonymous
      Bjorn and Benny from Abba at #100? Christ - I don't even like Abba, but surely they deserve higher than that?
    9. Johnny Barleycorn
      Johnny Barleycorn
      I'd put Morrissey and Marr in the top ten, but Bowie at #39, just above the bloke who wrote "Hit Me Baby One More Time" verges on the obscene.

      I have no complaints about #1. Dylan is astonishing.
    10. Anonymous
      Dylan: Pretentious boring bloke who can not sing.
    11. ACTON
      Rolling Stone is a useless rag. Top 100 lists are all shite apart from Dave Fanning's Xmas top 100 songs every year for RTE RADIO 2.
    12. AztecCamera
      What does "shite" mean?

      Nigel the British Vegetarian
    13. marred
      byw Taylor Swift is on this list, so I wouldn't bother worrying about where Moz n' Marr were placed. And Max Martin who has written songs for all the pop queens and Idol train wrecks.
      Last edited: Aug 15, 2015
    14. Anonymous
      YeaH westerberg. Dylan is also magic
    15. celibate
      boring Bob on 1, no Neil Young within the 20's or CSNY, or have I scolled down to fast

      and they say he's mentall...did he pass by...
    16. Anonymous
      No. 67, not bad for a song-writing duo who wanted to do away with everything that 'Rolling Stone' magazine stands for. At least the magazine had to acknowledge them.
    17. Anonymous
      Can anyone explain why Bruce Springsteen (#14), sang about his sexual desire for a "little girl" AKA "baby" and why he suggested that her "daddy" was his sexual rival?

      Bruce Springsteen – I'm On Fire Lyrics

      Hey little girl is your daddy home?
      Did he go away and leave you all alone?
      I got a bad desire
      I'm on fire

      Tell me now, baby, is he good to you?
      Can he do to you the things that I can do?
      I can take you higher
      I'm on fire

      Sometimes, it's like someone took a knife, baby
      Edgy and dull, and cut a six-inch valley
      Through the middle of my soul

      At night I wake up with the sheets soaking wet
      And a freight train running through the
      Middle of my head
      Only you can cool my desire
      I'm on fire


      I'm On Fire lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC

    18. celibate
      just 1 thing why reply it on my comment, was about nr 1 Bob Dylan, and Neil Young, or CSNY[crosby, stills. nash & young]

      'and they say he's mentall'....girl afraid...
    19. Anonymous
      Probably for the same reason Morrissey once wrote:

      "I once had a child, and it saved my life
      I never even asked his name
      I just looked into his wondrous eyes
      and said "never never never again"
      and all too soon I did return
      just like a moth to a flame
      see how words as old as sin
      fit me like a glove
      I'm here and here I'll stay
      together we lie, together we pray
      Climb upon my knee sonny boy
      Although you're only three sonny boy
      You're mine
      And your mother she just never knew..."

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