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Is it worth it purchasing this book? And, yes I know that it has a notoriously bad reputation.
There is no definitive answer. M somewhere read "the Smiths" in print - and it appealed. Probably was the book about the Moors Murderers. Mike Joyce told a friend.David and Maureen ? please
Nah, it’s gotta be either Patti or ….
Stevie Smith.
Obviously that’s where Morrissey got the band name from.
Yeah, let’s go with that.
There is no definitive answer.
M somewhere read "the Smiths" in print - and it appealed.
Probably was the book about the Moors Murderers. Mike Joyce told a friend.
This was in the days when court-cases & royalties were a million miles away. The Smiths were always friendly & courteous with their fans. They were just happy & proud to be central to something so precious.Yes, and we’re supposed to believe Mike.
even then.This was in the days when court-cases & royalties were a million miles away.
I guess, I hope so, I assume they were or might be(?) sure.The Smiths were always friendly & courteous with their fans.
As they should. Though Marr, guess he had his reasons, didn’t think The Smiths so precious eventually.They were just happy & proud to be central to something so precious.
Yes I already acknowledged that in my post, and we know all this already, so how could I forget.Don't forget Marr was still very young, to be effectively "managing"
Yes and he threw it all away.what were arguably the biggest indie band in the world at the time.
History may (or may not) record all the intricacies involved.
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Yes, the first third is fantastic- its a shame he didn't stop when Johnny knocked at the door.Is it worth it purchasing this book? And, yes I know that it has a notoriously bad reputation.
Yes, the first third is fantastic- its a shame he didn't stop when Johnny knocked at the door.
Then done another one about the Smiths , then another about solo years, part one. , solo years part two
It would have meant the first book would have been a drop-dead classic. Then rest would have been eccentric
However, all in one, it became bloated , sprawling and by the end an empty journey
That first third, though, is superb
That does make sense, if there was any hero in this gruesome story, it was David Smith, who reported Hindley and Brady to the police the first chance he got. I am not saying Morrissey saw him that way, but maybe he did recognize Smith stopped the killings.There is no definitive answer. M somewhere read "the Smiths" in print - and it appealed. Probably was the book about the Moors Murderers. Mike Joyce told a friend.
Marr himself said if things were handled differently, they could have carried on. I don't believe him tho, it just seems like a way to blame everyone else. I never wanted a reunion, I think it ended when it should have.It's an undisputed fact Marr pulled the plug. Some have contested that if he had been allowed to take a few months break (involving side-projects) then the band could have merrily carried on. Bit like a strained relationship, I guess. The Smiths were very prolific during their relatively short journey. For me, they were of their time & place and the legacy will shine long after we have all departed this planet. It was a neat & timely death. Writing a eulogy of The Smiths, Simon Reynolds succinctly commented : "Who wants to grow up? Who wants to go back?" Quite.
David Smith was hated, beaten up, hounded out of jobs etc for decades due to the lies that Brady and Hindley spun at their trial.That does make sense, if there was any hero in this gruesome story, it was David Smith, who reported Hindley and Brady to the police the first chance he got. I am not saying Morrissey saw him that way, but maybe he did recognize Smith stopped the killings.
Given M was so entrenched in all things 60s, this narrative is more than plausible . The lyric "Manchester so much to answer for" always struck me as being pivotal to the aesthetics of the band. Steve Strange was a central component of 'The Moors Murderers.' Not sure if it was ever released, but the song 'Free Hindley' was a moronic attempt at controversy for its own sake.The band name being linked to David and Maureen Smith makes sense - Moz had only recently read Beyond Belief at that time, Suffer Little Children was one of the first songs, it's a case he has written and talked about a fair bit. I wouldn't blame M if he decided to conceal that a bit once the band got famous - particularly after the stick he got for 'Suffer...' and the fact that the second Moors investigation began in 1986. Chrissie Hynde formed a band called 'The Moors Murderers' once and they were beaten up in the street.
Probably.Stranger and stranger...... went back to read about Hindley and Brady. Hindley took Veronica as her confirmation name. Coincidence?
Yeah, agreed. Sonic Youth based the 'Goo' album cover on a photo of David and Maureen, too.Given M was so entrenched in all things 60s, this narrative is more than plausible . The lyric "Manchester so much to answer for" always struck me as being pivotal to the aesthetics of the band. Steve Strange was a central component of 'The Moors Murderers.' Not sure if it was ever released, but the song 'Free Hindley' was a moronic attempt at controversy for its own sake.
It's unmistakably based on the photo. No coincidence there - unless you're suggesting that Sonic Youth just thought it was a cool photo and they didn't know it was from the Moors trial?yeah, maybe it was based on that photo, looks close, it could just be coincidence though.