Morricone 2010 interview mentions 'Dear God'

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  1. alex

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  2. King Leer

    King Leer Leering since '97

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    Thanks so much for posting this. As a massive fan of Morricone this was a great interview that I hadn't read before.

    You've seen the Youtube video of Moz, Boz and the band listening to Morricone put the strings together for Dear God.

    I respect Morrissey 'til the end, but to "discard" something Morricone has written for your song...Takes some balls. If there's ever a re-release of Tormentors, I hope it contains the full strings.



     
  3. The Seeker of Good Songs

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    "Did you meet Morrissey before working on some of the strings for Ringleader Of The Tormentors? EM: I didn’t meet him personally, I spoke to the producer Tony Visconti before starting but you know, he did not use what I did for the album anyway. It was not his style."


    Exactly what is "Morrissey's style"?
     
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    Synth strings :D
     
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    The heavy-strings fan mix I downloaded from the bootleg section is better than what was on the album IMHO. I wonder if that's more of what Morricone was going for?
     
  6. Oh my god. it's Robby!

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    so is there any way to hear the Morricone arrangement of "Dear God" :confused: please? :straightface:
     
  7. Raphael Lambach

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    Then what's that string arraignment we hear on "Dear God"?
     
  8. not_me_not_I

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    At the bottom of my page is a link to a thread that looks like it contains the original.
     
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    It's Tony Visconti's final mix for the album. Certain parts from Morricone's full score are truncated as (presumably) directed by Morrissey. I personally prefer the fan mix with the full strings. It would certainly be something to see and hear performed live with a full string ensemble.
     
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  10. Orson Swells

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    The original strings are far superior to my ears than on the final mix and really enhance the power of the song. I hope Moz relents one day and puts out the full string version officially.
     
  11. mcrickson

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    Well, remember, the full string mix we are hearing is a fan-made mix. It is very possible that Visconti deleted Morricone's cut contributions in finalizing the mix. We were only able to hear these strings because of a behind-the-scenes video that became public which included Morricone's ensemble performing passages to the song that were later removed.
     
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  13. Raphael Lambach

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    I oughtta agree with you guys.
    The "alternative/fan mix" is truly far superior than the album mix.
    Who knows if it'll not be released someday, somehow.
     
  14. King Leer

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    That is a very good homegrown mix. Have to agree it's superior.

    Also have to say that Alain's basic, melancholic melody is somehow Morricone-esque in its own way. Always wanted to know more about the story behind this track. Did Alain know Morricone was going to be involved and then write music in that vein? Did Morricone himself choose this track to do the most work on?

    I'm feeling nostalgic for the Ringleader era for the first time. Have a feeling it'll be reappraised much more positively in years to come (particularly with the right deluxe re-release).
     
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    I think it's Tony Visconti's idea to approach Morricone.
     
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    I don't know too much about stories behind the Dear God's productions, unfortunetely. Besides "Dear God Please Help Me" and "At last I am born" I cannot see other tracks which these string arraigment could work pretty well.
     
  17. King Leer

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    Oh, I knew that (in fact, I posted here on these very boards that Morrissey had to work with Morricone if he were going to record in Italy - lo and behold, Visconti announced that some time after).

    What I was wondering is whether the demos (particularly Dear God's) had already been recorded before Morricone's involvement was confirmed, and whether the Maestro listened to the tracks and decided himself where children would sing, strings would be or how the whole creative process worked.

    Ultimately it wasn't quite as monumental a collaboration as it could've been, but I still love what is there.

     
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