More rare versions of Morrissey / Smiths songs uploaded

Discussion in 'General Discussion archive 2016 (read-only)' started by Uncleskinny, Dec 28, 2015.

By Uncleskinny on Dec 28, 2015 at 7:12 PM
  1. Uncleskinny

    Uncleskinny It's all good Moderator Premium

    Jun 1, 2000
    On the moors
    I've uploaded some stuff some may have heard, but some may have not heard.

    Early acoustic demo of Nobody Loves Us:

    Early demo of Bengali In Platforms:

    Early demo of He Knows I'd Love To See Him:

    *UPDATE - Here's three more. I think that's it for now, unless I find another old drive or something. I'm not sure if these have been posted before, I think the Never Had No One Ever might have been. It's a little freaky - laughter and trumpets and such.

    Boy Racer Demo:

    Never Had No One Ever early version:

    Southpaw early version:


    Media coverage:
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    1. Irregular Regular
      Irregular Regular
      Re: Some songs

      Christmas has come early!
      Well, technically it hasn't of course. :)
      Thank you very much Peter.
    2. famouswhendead
      Re: Some songs

      Very very Nice
      Thank you very Much
    3. Anaesthesine
      Re: Some songs

      Wow - one of the all-time greats!

      Thanks for the upload, and happy holidays to all and sundry.
    4. Skylarker
      Re: Some songs

      Holy shit, man. Amazing. Thanks for sharing this stuff! How long have you been sitting on these?
    5. Uncleskinny
      Re: Some songs

      A while. There's other stuff on various drives. I'm just going through them. I'd forgotten I had some of these, if I find more I'll post them.
    6. Anonymous
      Re: Some songs

      While I'm thankful people like you make this stuff available, I'm also wondering why you (and others) hold on to it for "a while"? Is it for monetary reasons? Bragging purposes?
    7. Uncleskinny
      Re: Some songs

      As I said above, I was going through some drives, and I forgot I had them. That's all there is to it. If I find more, I'll post them.
    8. Anonymous
      Re: Some songs

      I wasn't trying to have a go, I was just curious. If I had the means to obtain things like this I'd post it all over th place.
      But then maybe "the source" would dry up...?

      Two of these are approaching 30 years old. They've been floating around for that long and no one was nice enough to make them available until you, today.

      They're really good, though. Thanks.
    9. Raphael Lambach
      Raphael Lambach
      Re: Some songs

      I loved all of them. Great job, Peter.
    10. Uncleskinny
    11. realitybites
      Re: Some songs

    12. Uncleskinny
      Re: Some songs

      By the way, in my opinion, that vocal on the 'Never' early version is just about the best I've ever heard him sing.
    13. Skylarker
      Re: Some songs

      Thank you very much for sharing these versions!
    14. GMS
      Re: Some songs

      Eternal thanks for this, Peter!

      It is a stunning version. I remember reading in Simon Goddard's book about the early version of 'Never...' with a New Orleans style jazz trumpet. The ideas The Smiths were having in the studio at this time were amazing. Obviously, it didn't get used on the final cut of 'The Queen Is Dead' and rightly so but I love the musical experimentation that was going on. They really were in a class of their own around then. The Smiths demos etc. are better than 90% of other bands' finished recordings!
    15. Librarian On Fire
      Librarian On Fire
      Re: Some songs

      Many thanks for the uploads Peter. It's greatly appreciated and very decent of you. New Year wishes to you and your family.
    16. CrystalGeezer
      Re: Some songs

      Not everyone has your motivations.
    17. Jamie
      Re: Some songs

      Many thanks, Peter - amazing unearthings here, some no doubt originally intended for the Rhino solo catalog reissues. It's great to finally hear them.

      It's disconcerting to hear the rather flat Miraval version of "The Boy Racer." Moz and company did well to electrify it - and Spencer was country miles better for the material than Woodie Taylor. The alternate version of "Southpaw" is obviously built off the released version's backing track, but taking off the "room sound" makes it feel more like an amalgam of a Your Arsenal track and "A Swallow On My Neck." The synth strings give it an Echo and the Bunnymen vibe, which makes sense since Alain has raved about them as an influence. An interesting curio, but I think the track was all the better for the improvisation at the end.

      The work-in-progress version of "He Knows I'd Love To See Him" is interesting, but, clearly the rhythm track that Danny Thompson and Andrew Paresi laid down on the final version was superior. The drum track on this version feels awkward, fighting against the melody - suitable only for a demo.

      While Vini Reilly's additional guitar work on this version of "Bengali" is sumptuous, the track was stronger for limiting the electric guitar to the punctuations in the chorus. It is bittersweet to hear how supple Reilly's playing was with the knowledge that strokes have virtually stripped away his abilities.

      Morrissey is in fine voice throughout, in general, but he sounds very congested on "Nobody Loves Us." The spare background brings extra throat noise to the fore in a rather unattractive fashion.

      I wouldn't go so far as to say his vocal on this version of "Never Had No One Ever" was a best-ever, but I wish they had not tampered with the horn. It really emphasizes the song as a sort of twisted blues. For me, the released version has always kind of lain there in the midst of an otherwise flawless track listing.
    18. billybu69
      Many thanks, Nobody Loves Us is especially welcome.
    19. Nikita
      I am a total dumb with these, have now idea how to download them.

      Anyone would help?

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