Margaret Thatcher and popular music

Bigmouth

Scandinavian
During this weird turbulence with sub-species I hesitate to ask.
But anyhow this semester at the university of Stockholm I’ joined a kind of (how do you say?) tiny course (just for fun besides my usually focus in art/literature etc.): its called popular music and politics. We are supposed to write an essay.
My first thought was to do a comparative analysis between three British bands from the Thatcher-era 1979-90 and their relationship to the privatizations etc. The genre doesn’t have to be pop music, so a type of approach to post-punk/alternative indie is possible.
These artists will probably be The Jam, Joy Division and Smiths – of course with focus on their front men who often wrote the (implicit or explicit) words.
Actually then 1979-1986 with any of the albums All Mod Cons/Setting Sons/Sound Effects, Unknown Pleasures/Closer and Meat is Murder/The Queen is Dead in focus.
So, I am already through with Weller’s anarchism (Eton Rifles, To be Someone, Burning sky ad infinitum) and investigating the introspective lyrics of Ian Curtis. But then still Morrissey. Not Margaret on the guillotine even though tempting.
Please all of you charming morrisseynerds: give me some concrete examples on contemporary contexts in Smiths songs.
Thanks for any help :)
 

Theo

Active Member
I agree with the majority of the British people that Thatcher was the best Prime Minister of the post-war era. :)


“The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” –Margaret Thatcher.


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Theo

Active Member
Shout out to Ronnie, too :thumb:

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malvachat

My eyes are now open
I agree with the majority of the British people that Thatcher was the best Prime Minister of the post-war era. :)
Whatever makes you think that the majority of the "British people" support that view?On what evidence?
She did win three elections the same as Blair.So she did have the support of the British people at the time.The same as Blair.(Two elections post Iraq)
So please list what you think are her great achievements.And how they have helped the great majority of the "British people"
Because for every good thing you "think" was. I will tell you fact after fact why it wasn't great for the majority of the British people.
She was loved by many.
But now years later and we see the results of her ideas she is hated by far more.
In fact it's hard to find anybody who will admit to supporting her at all.
I'm of course referring to real people not stupid right wing nuts.
 

CrookedLittleVein

Duck. Duck. Duck. Goose.
During this weird turbulence with sub-species I hesitate to ask.
But anyhow this semester at the university of Stockholm I’ joined a kind of (how do you say?) tiny course (just for fun besides my usually focus in art/literature etc.): its called popular music and politics. We are supposed to write an essay.
My first thought was to do a comparative analysis between three British bands from the Thatcher-era 1979-90 and their relationship to the privatizations etc. The genre doesn’t have to be pop music, so a type of approach to post-punk/alternative indie is possible.
These artists will probably be The Jam, Joy Division and Smiths – of course with focus on their front men who often wrote the (implicit or explicit) words.
Actually then 1979-1986 with any of the albums All Mod Cons/Setting Sons/Sound Effects, Unknown Pleasures/Closer and Meat is Murder/The Queen is Dead in focus.
So, I am already through with Weller’s anarchism (Eton Rifles, To be Someone, Burning sky ad infinitum) and investigating the introspective lyrics of Ian Curtis. But then still Morrissey. Not Margaret on the guillotine even though tempting.
Please all of you charming morrisseynerds: give me some concrete examples on contemporary contexts in Smiths songs.
Thanks for any help :)

Not The Smiths, but Elvis Costello's 'Tramp the Dirt Down' is a simultaneously moving and vitriolic assault on Thatcher.

Anecdote:

I was working as a typesetter a few years ago. It was very much a working class male environment. Someone turned on the radio in the middle of a discussion about the prospect of Thatcher having a state funeral. We didn't realise it was just a theoretical debate and assumed Thatcher was dead. An almighty f***ing cheer went up, followed by crushing disappointment when we realised the evil old crone was still alive.
 

malvachat

My eyes are now open
Anecdote:

I was working as a typesetter a few years ago. It was very much a working class male environment. Someone turned on the radio in the middle of a discussion about the prospect of Thatcher having a state funeral. We didn't realise it was just a theoretical debate and assumed Thatcher was dead. An almighty f***ing cheer went up, followed by crushing disappointment when we realised the evil old crone was still alive.
IMHO This is the reaction you would get from the majority of the British people.
Those of us of an age to remember.
She and her government policies,ruined so many peoples lives.The fact that it was done intentionally.Just to protect and help the rich prosper sickens me.
 

Theo

Active Member
IMHO This is the reaction you would get from the majority of the British people.
Those of us of an age to remember.
She and her government policies,ruined so many peoples lives.The fact that it was done intentionally.Just to protect and help the rich prosper sickens me.

As Thatcher points out in the clip above, it seems you'd rather the poor be poorer provided the rich be less rich.

That sickens me.
 

malvachat

My eyes are now open
As Thatcher points out in the clip above, it seems you'd rather the poor be poorer provided the rich be less rich.

That sickens me.
I have no problem with rich people at all.
I have a problem with MY government pursuing polices that deliberately set out to hurt less well off people.
 
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